PlayStation 4 Announced!

[Enigmatism415]

I am loyal to Sony so I guess I'll have to buy one. I wish that they had waited another year though.

[Pikminister]

...Sony keeping the same controller design for two decades now. Why they insist on that is a damn mistery to me.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it?

Funny thing is, some ppl are complaining about the controller for being too different or ugly. So I guess they did change it. Just enough to annoy the purists.

I am loyal to Sony so I guess I'll have to buy one. I wish that they had waited another year though.

Yeah, the PS3 had great games in the pipeline this year. The PS4 is gonna take the spotlight.

But it needed to be this way. Sony could not afford to let MS take the lead again. That was the plan all along.

[alexdz]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it?

But it is broken. Why the hell is the left control stick, the most used "button", on a secondary position? I always feel awkward when using it. But hey, it's my opinion.

[[STARS]TyranT]

I hope they never change it to be honest. I find the 360 controller an utter travesty. It's literally good for nothing apart from FPS's or driving games (for me).

Playing a fighting game or something like Rising Revengeance is nigh on unplayable for me on anything other than a Dual Shock.

[Zombie_X]

I don't mind that they didn't change the layout of the controller. I like the was the PS-PS3 controller feels and functions, so why fix what isn't broken? I think the new shoulder buttons look excellent.

[News Bot]

According to a developer on Watchdogs, the shoulder buttons and analogs on the DS4 are "tighter" than previous controllers. Fuck yeah!

[Code_R]

[aris13]

Deep Down is Dragon's Dogma 2 right?

[Enigmatism415]

Can someone please tell me whether PS4 games will be rendered natively at 1920x1080p30 or 1920x1080p60? It's 2013, so one of these should be the new standard, but I want to make sure. Anything lower than 1920x1080 at this point is ridiculous, considering how immensely powerful the PS4 will be.

[News Bot]

Can someone please tell me whether PS4 games will be rendered natively at 1920x1080p30 or 1920x1080p60? It's 2013, so one of these should be the new standard, but I want to make sure. Anything lower than 1920x1080 at this point is ridiculous, considering how immensely powerful the PS4 will be.

I don't think there's any way to tell at the moment, but so far 1080p30 seems most likely.

[Pikminister]

Sony says that not all PS4 games will be available on a retail disc, but will only be available digitally. They will try to focus on having games be available digitally than on a disc. But they are not saying that discs will be no more:

"We're shifting our platform more and more to the digital side--PS4 will be similar to PS Vita in that every game will be available as a digital download, and some will also be available as a disc.

The Witness will be a digital release and because of the flexibility of the digital distribution scheme, we can have more small games that might be free or available for a couple of dollars, or different services like free-to-play or subscription models."

Deep Down is Dragon's Dogma 2 right?

Nope. Its a new IP according to Capcom.

Can someone please tell me whether PS4 games will be rendered natively at 1920x1080p30 or 1920x1080p60?

They can make games run at that. But according to some devs in the know, the target is to have them run at 720p, locked at 30fps in order to push better performing graphics overall. With none of the screen-tearing and choppy animations that we see on current consoles.

Anything more than that would be too unstable.

[Vito]

Then I guess I'm not getting those digital only games then. Fuck off Sony.

[Enigmatism415]

They can make games run at that. But according to some devs in the know, the target is to have them run at 720p, locked at 30fps in order to push better performing graphics overall. With none of the screen-tearing and choppy animations that we see on current consoles.

Anything more than that would be too unstable.

I heard that the difference in processing demand between 30p and 60p is much greater than between 1280x720 and 1920x1080. Do you know if this is true? If so, maybe 1920x1080p30 games will be reasonable.

[Canas Renvall]

^ It is much greater strain on the hardware, yes. Also with those specs and the fancy controller and everything, I can't see this going well for Sony in terms of a price point. It could be another "$599 US dollars! $599 US dollars! $599 US dollars!" situation, where even at that price Sony loses money out the ass on each console sold. Also, another little marring on the reputation.

Sony Revises List of Third Party Developers Down Considerably

http://www.gamrreview.com/news/89809/sony-revises-list-of-third-party-ps4-developers-down-considerably/

During Sony's PlayStation 4 announcement conference they briefly advertised an image that demonstrated the sheer number of third parties purportedly working on PlayStation 4 games. Afterwards, they followed this up by publishing a complete list, which we reported on here. That list contained almost 150 names, 53 of which are developers based in Europe.

But today Sony revised the number of European PlayStation 4 developers down quite considerably, from the aforementioned 53 to 28. It seems that Sony got a bit ahead of themselves. VG24/7 are reporting, for example, that Mojang's inclusion was an 'error on Sony's side', and according to them the same applies to a number of other developers. Likewise Gamasutra even reported that 17-bit, despite being included on the list "does not have a PS4 dev kit as of yet, although that's not for lack of trying".

It begs the question of how many Japanese and American developers are also on the list that shouldn't be, and why Sony felt the need to beef up the list when it would very quickly be disputed by the developers themselves.

Did they really not think the devs would contest this?

[Dracarys]

Then I guess I'm not getting those digital only games then. Fuck off Sony.

How is it any different to PSN only games on PS3?