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  • Originally posted by Gradon View Post
    Didn't Tetsuya Nomura say that too? Thats why FFXV and KH3 are coming to Xbox One as well. Apparently they're nearly identical tech wise. Time will tell when exclusives push both the devices to the limit.
    It's factually incorrect, though. They both use similar hardware, but the PS4 is substantially better in pure numbers.
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    • Originally posted by Gradon View Post
      Didn't Tetsuya Nomura say that too? Thats why FFXV and KH3 are coming to Xbox One as well. Apparently they're nearly identical tech wise. Time will tell when exclusives push both the devices to the limit.
      Well, tech wise they're very identical. Roughly the same overall amount of RAM (give or take based on OS footprint/integration), GPU from the same range and manufacturer, CPU from the same range and manufacturer, both DX11 compatible, etc.. In general, the way the current on paper specs are is that the PS4's clock speed on all fronts is higher.

      Originally posted by News Bot View Post
      It's factually incorrect, though. They both use similar hardware, but the PS4 is substantially better in pure numbers.
      Well, it really depends on the setup. All the talks of downclocking on the One isn't of course a promising start for the new Xbox, that's for sure (but then again, at least MS seem to publically recognize and acknowledge potential hardware issues early on. The downclocking might just be temporary until they've had the chance to stress test full speed on final units internally for a certain amount of time before unlocking the speed again), but I think we'll have to wait for post-launch or something to see whichever system has the best setup internally. The way things have been with the PS1-3 doesn't exactly bode well for the PS4's architecture ... but it'd be really sad if the PS4 ends up having amazing bottlenecks such as the PS3 had (stupid things such as the memory setup on it, how the security system bogged down HDD access to the point where anything faster than a 5600 RPM would barely benefit you unless the game had seamless data access, the way HDD space allocation is handled, etc.). Those 8 GB of GDDR5 RAM wont exactly be worth their price if the way you access the RAM on the unit ends up being donkey balls and a bunch of digital hoops :/
      Last edited by Carnivol; 06-18-2013, 10:00 PM.

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      • I am disappointed with XB1. It is just simply garbage though it makes 360 seem like the complete opposite. If they got smart and took away the pre-owned crap then itt could be a decent system if they only dropped the price tag to 50-100 less. Honestly Microsoft should stick with what they do best, Computers and taking our money with fancy PC crap. Leaving gaming to Sony and Nintendo. What ever happened to Sega? Oh yeah they got too cocky and made a system before it's time, while people still had dial-up and few knew what broadband was.

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        • Originally posted by Ultimacloud123 View Post
          I am disappointed with XB1. It is just simply garbage though it makes 360 seem like the complete opposite. If they got smart and took away the pre-owned crap then itt could be a decent system if they only dropped the price tag to 50-100 less.
          Word on the street has it that the DRM system might change - with an announcement coming very soon... (how that will effect awesome features like the game sharing remains to be seen.)


          Originally posted by Ultimacloud123 View Post
          What ever happened to Sega? Oh yeah they got too cocky and made a system before it's time, while people still had dial-up and few knew what broadband was.
          So you're essentially saying MS is before their time with the One and it's indeed the awesome future? I'm confused.

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          • Originally posted by Carnivol View Post
            Word on the street has it that the DRM system might change - with an announcement coming very soon... (how that will effect awesome features like the game sharing remains to be seen.)
            If true, new name should be Xbox One-Eighty.
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            • All true.

              "Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.

              For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

              Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

              You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

              So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

              An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

              Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

              In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.

              These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.

              We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.

              Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year."


              Well done on making the right choice Microsoft, now it can be about the games again.
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              • Well, fuck the haters

                I was looking forward to being able to share my digital archive with friends and family (hope they can still pull that part off, for anything bought through the LIVE Marketplace)


                (Region free <3)
                Last edited by Carnivol; 06-19-2013, 05:17 PM.

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                • Why still need register the game online if it going to be like current gen?

                  ...but lawlz at the shit MS thought they could get away with.
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                  • Disappointing that such a policy change (which they claimed they wouldn't do) is spurred by pressure rather than someone genuinely intelligent realizing they were being fuckwads.
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                    • Looks much more appealing now. Still the most expensive console bundled with a hunk of junk that spies on you, though.

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                      • Originally posted by alexdz View Post
                        Looks much more appealing now. Still the most expensive console bundled with a hunk of junk that spies on you, though.
                        Plus it is underpowered compared to PS4.


                        Still not getting it, if MS get a big enough marketshare is nothing stopping them doing another 180, and this is MS, so if they can they will. They know like RROD once people build up a library of games most people will deal with shit rather than take a loss and start over on a rival product.
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                        • Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
                          Still not getting it, if MS get a big enough marketshare is nothing stopping them doing another 180, and this is MS, so if they can they will. They know like RROD once people build up a library of games most people will deal with shit rather than take a loss and start over on a rival product.
                          I'm still amazed how people still bought a new one after it failed and sometimes even another one when the second RROD'd too. People really love Halo I guess.

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                          • As I've learned my lesson, I'll be waiting for both PS4 and Xbox One Slim redesigns and price cuts. XB1 is much more appealing with no DRM, Dead Rising 3 has me on the fence though, but there's no way I can afford a day one console... Yup I know, I'm a cheap bastard LOL.

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                            • Micro$oft still isn't getting my money. $500 for a Wellsian camera that's always watching and listening isn't cool. Yeah great, they removed the DRM -- what's stopping them from putting it back in once they get your money? The fact that they put it there in the first place means they want it in there and the moment they can, they will. I'm not supporting that line of thinking. Like Paul said, this was purely out of backlash, not someone realizing their mistake. That doesn't mean they don't want to/won't put it back in. And as the most expensive console, yet being underpowered compared to its competitor, and M$'s lackluster exclusives (Halo 4 was a joke, can only imagine 5, also lol Pay-to-Win Killer Instinct reboot) they still fucked up. I'd rather pay for PS4 multiplayer than compromise my privacy and run the risk of getting slammed with DRM down the road.

                              I enjoyed my 360, and I try to be fair to all consoles, but M$ jumped up and got cozy with EA at the top of my shit list.

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                              • You have to go online to get the day one no online patch? Okay then.

                                Still sounds fishy, are these policies scrapped or just delayed? How long till they scrap Don Mattrick I wonder.

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