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Thou shalt not change the gameplay style when remaking a classic.
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As much as I love the REmake, the idea of remaking a game rubs me the wrong way.
Suggests to me that there is something wrong with the original.
But one thing that I do like is what they did with New Super Mario Bros. In that they kept the 2D style gameplay relatively identical, and changed to 3D models. That can work really well. Of course NSMB was new levels.
I'd rather that Biohazard 2 and 3 were left well alone, as well as Majora's Mask.
However a graphical update of The Logical Journey of the Zoombinis would have me in fits of joy.
Even Battle toads, Double Dragon, Streets of rage, or the old Ninja Turtles and The Simpsons arcade side scrollers, as long as the gameplay was near enough to identical.
The side scroller. Where's that gone as a genre... ? Even the not so popular ones (2 crude dudes. Joe & Mac: Caveman ninja) had me and my brothers occupied for hours, and then belting the shit out of each other (mostly because he took the health pick up when I needed it
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Well, let's face it... The first RE game was far from perfect. And as much as all RE fans love and respect that game, it could've used many improvements.
But yeah, there are plenty of games out there that are such timeless classics that remaking them would be a crime against gaming.Comment
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I feel the the "Fear Effect" and "Soul Reaver" series should get remakes. Both were groundbreaking, both had great stony lines, and game play for both was awesome.
- I would really enjoy playing as Raziel in an updated Nosgoth with more exploration, updated combat system, and an extended story.
- As for fear effect I'd like them to keep their Anime style graphics, just update them to todays standards and well as update the game play a little bit.
I would have loved it if "Fear Effect: Inferno" was not canceled.Comment
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Hmm... Syphon Filter 1 and 2 and maybe 3. All in the style of Dark Mirror and Logan's Shadow.Comment
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Syphon Filter on my PSP = wildComment
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The first game will be 5 years old on Dec 10. If you mean a repackaging, then sure, but a full-out remake? Noo.Originally posted by randomwab View Post
REmake is far from perfect too, and the biggest improvements were really technical/aesthetic rather than gameplay ones. The core remained the same, and with 180 degree turn and defense weapons being the only real upgrades there.Well, let's face it... The first RE game was far from perfect. And as much as all RE fans love and respect that game, it could've used many improvements.
The branching was dumbed down, but take away technical improvements, the game was a mere revision of the original. However, the mansion layout is what they originally intended for the original but weren't able to complete it with their deadline.
I distinctly remember an old Gamepro preview from 1995 where a graveyard was mentioned.. I wish I had kept the issue. A reader asked about it a few months after the game was released in 96 and the editor explained that the final game lacked a graveyard among other areas. That's in addition to some differences we know of already.
As much I liked the game (didn't exactly love it, and I'm in the minority who prefer Zero), I didn't and STILL don't like the idea of remakes. Let alone a game like RE2. Hollywood gets flack for remaking movies that are decades old, yet I'm still surprised to see that gamers like the idea of remaking games at all.
Gene hit the nail on the head; graphical updates such as SSFII Turbo HD remix etc are great ideas of re-selling classics to a new generation.
I would love a similar treatment to the Streets of Rage trilogy... well, the 2nd and third, preferably the JPN version of the latter.
This could get ugly, so I'll just point out that Carn probably felt you were giving the other HD console the cold shoulder as if the PS3's graphical prowess is in a league of its own.Yeah, its really not that hard to understand
Unless your more of a wii person.Last edited by Umon Daisuke; 11-21-2008, 08:55 PM.Comment
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I wasnt giving the 360 the cold shoulder, I only said PS3 because thats what I have. I think it should be obvious to people that referring to PS3/360 = next gen graphics, no need for people to make a fuss over such a small thing.Originally posted by Umon Daisuke View PostLast edited by CODE_umb87; 11-21-2008, 09:37 PM.
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why do i see a picture of RE 1 near michaelangelo and way far away from portal?Originally posted by Biohazard EX View PostComment
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Umm... Yeah.. The core gameplay remained the same... But... That's a GOOD thing.Originally posted by Umon Daisuke View PostComment
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Now, see, I don't understand the fondness for the gameplay mechanics to be the same. The tank controls work, and the camera angles can force some interesting scary moments where you're trying to work out what your character is looking at. But otherwise the new RE4 style controls work better, allowing you to not get assaulted because you can't see around a corner the character can, which was something that always bugged me abiut the old RE games.
Honestly, so long as the storyline and horror elements are there and implemented, along with puzzles and exploration, it's all good. The controls, so long as they work, are extremely unimportant to me, and the better they work the happier I am.
The only reason RE4 was more action was because it was in a wider area, with more guns and more ammo. In tight alleys and narrow hallways, with limited ammo, I think it would feel more or less the same as the older games. Only you'd be able to see what you were shooting at.Comment
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Yeah, RE4 gameplay but with limited ammo, enemies that are stronger and more dangerous instead of being just a cannon fodder, puzzles and maze-like environments (like RPD, mansion or even city in RE3) and a hero that wouldn't act like Neo would be a full win. Dead Space proves that it can be done.Originally posted by Darkmoon View Post
The only good thing about static camera angles were... some interesting camera angles; but gameplay-wise, they were frustrating.Last edited by Mr_Zombie; 11-22-2008, 04:16 AM.Comment
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Dead Space didn't prove anything. I barely got a single scare with Dead Space. Same with Silent Hill Homecoming, it was the least scary of all SH games.
I have yet to play an over the shoulder 'horror' game, that's actually scary.
Tank controls should be second nature to any RE player. I wouldn't want Resident Evil without them. The camera angles made things more cinematic, and scare wise, a lot more effective. It felt like you were playing a movie, and that's what I loved about it.
Static camera angles and tank controls are a Survival Horror convention, like it or not. Or at the very least semi-independent camera. But keeping the camera behind the shoulder like they do these days, it's not horror, and in case of games like RE4, it's definitely not survival.
If Remake had a behind the shoulder camera, it would not be doing justice to the original.Comment
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Amen to that. So many great horror games were made when graphics weren't exactly great. I may be a sucker for the pixels and polygons, but I do like a good remake.Silent Hill. The original. Well, not so much a remake as a graphical upgrade. I wouldn't want them to change the controls or gameplay style to what Silent Hill is now. But I'd definitely like to see that game with today's generation graphics.
What about the original Clock Tower? That has really good potential for a remake. I think it could be really scary, even for the people who claim they never get scared. ^.~Comment
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