Hideo Kojima's New Project

[Carnivol]

hell yeah, I'd upgrade to uber fix but I heavily doubt MGA3 will come out. I loved that way of playing MG so much. The 3-D glasses were neat too. Does anyone know if Kojima liked the MGA series?

MGA3 would be really sweet if they could build upon a lot of the elements in MGA1-2.

First of all, I hate how MGA2 forces you to do the tutorial (Seriously, it's a bloody f-ing sequel to a game you may have sunk nearly 100 hours into... at least make the torturial optional or make a "new shit tutorial" and "all shit" tutorial)

Second; I still don't get why they haven't made any sorts of puzzle modes. Give you a set of pre-picked cards and a hand that always gets drawn in the same order, to then have you solve some sort of scenario with them. I know card games aren't the best way to do this, but it adds so much to various puzzles games when they have these types of modes added to them... and seriously, the way you play MGA is somewhat like a puzzle game.


Also, camo in MGS was implemented horribly stupid and cheap (surface in stead of surroundings). Defending MGS3's gameplay while at the same time complaining about the exact same major design issues in another game is some of the stupidest stuff anyone could do.

[U and S]

I agree with that idea, Chris. While I enjoyed MGS3, and keeping in mind I never got the chance to play MGS4, Sons of Liberty was great without all of those cumbersome camo and injury mechanics. Really Kojima should just implement new ways of interacting with the environment and manipulating sentries, as a function of the player, and not Snake's gear. All of the destructible materials (bottles, magazines, etc) in MGS2 didn't affect the guards IIRC, it was only sound. Plus, the breakable stuff was mostly limited to the Tanker chapter, it seemed like Kojima designed the Big Shell to be a point A to B affair. Perhaps my memory's shot.

Big Shell and the Tanker were originally two versions of the same scenario. They were only going to go with one scenario, the Tanker, but found out that a tanker wasn't big enough to fit an entire game in - so they added the alternative scenario, Big Shell, to the game, too.

You'll notice they both have similiar uses:

1 - The Tanker conceals a new Metal Gear in its hull, RAY.
2 - Big Shell conceals a new Metal Gear, Arsenal, beneath it.

[Vector]

What if it's two games? MGS5 and MPO2?

More likely, MPO2 and a MGS4 re-release featuring new acts with Raiden as the playable character.

[ValentineKnight]

damn I wanted Zone of the Enders 3. T_T Oh well good for MGS fans...

[Rombie]

If i was a director and made a successful series, i would not like anyone else but me directing it's sequels.

No offense intended, but glad your not a director of a successful series with that attitude.

Give the guy a break. He obviously wants to leave the series to hands he can trust, and apparently Konami doesnt have anyone up to his standards. Last thing we need is MG and MGS turning into the same pile of incoherent crap RE did.

Ditto for you.

Some people question why Kojima is more frequently labeled as an egotist, and then he pulls this sort of thing. Clearly he has no ability to let go and feels that no one else can do a decent job except him.

I swear he spends half the time on the "making of" for 4 discussing the fact that he wants to have his team be able to produce the game without having him in the directors chair by the time he's finished with GOTP. If he is incapable of doing that now, and after 3 games of saying "this will be the last I direct", then it's due to his inability to a) properly train these people to do it, or b) inability to let the fucking thing go a little because he doesn't think anyone is good enough. It's not like even as a writer/producer he still couldn't have a good overview of the game. He's created/produced other games before which turned out fine.

Before you blast me overall, I liked 4 for the most part and as posted in another thread have a moderately large collection of the series, I am a fan of the series and of Kojima's, but even I can see the guy needs to just ease back a bit on this.

[Member_of_STARS]

I dont understand why is it to hard to see things from his perspective. Its his lifes work, hes an artist. And considering he has accomplished something truly great, of course hes unwilling to "let go" if theres a big chance that its going to be tarnished. This is how entire franchises go terribad. I dont think I need to show Hollywood as a prime example of how this usually works out.

He may leave an impression of an egoist, but when it comes to one mans vision and idea of his work, its very rare when someone else can continue it in the similar mood.

Its not about "decent job" or "competence", its about the pinnacle of one guys career and an artists vision. I wouldnt "let it go" either.

[Rombie]

It's not hard to see it from your perspective. It's not his, nor is my assumptions on why he continues either could be possibly incorrect. But in short no one would care as much about him directing more titles except for these reasons... which are reasons and not assumptions.

a) he constantly says this will be the last one he will direct, frequently names potential directors, and then doesn't allow it; personally I feels this shows more of underpinning of lack of confidence in his own team more than just being a perfectionist but we can take that as it is however we each view it;
b) a role as creater/writer/producer still allows his vision to be the major part of the game. he's also still the head of the whole department and can work with the director if he's really not happy, because he's still the boss.. in that regard it's about time he even just worked on something else;
c) your comment on the underpinnings of "terribad" is entirely subjective (as this thread shows), everyone has an opinion on where or if MGS has jumped the shark, or nuked the fridge, as far as franchise goes but;
d) regardless however most can agree one one thing, which is that with the exception of potential bit between MGS2 and MGS4 involving Raiden and Big Boss' body, the story of "Solid" is done. And even if Kojima is wanting to continue directing another title in the main series as he apparently does, then he should stop complaining that he doesn't get the chance to work on any other projects he has in mind when he then works on 3 major Metal Gear titles in a row. Because thats what I heard and read a lot of after the last three titles from him.

Basically it's easiest to sit there and point out how absurd his return to the directors chair straight away is after all the showboating about how hard it is to get the chance to work on something else and constantly during the past seven years saying he's going to not direct the next.

[Mr. Spencer]

I'm still holding out for a Snatcher sequel. Gillian needs to get to Moscow and choke a bitch.

[GuardhouseMusic]

I'm still holding out for a Snatcher sequel. Gillian needs to get to Moscow and choke a bitch.

The next step: Complete biological duplication and perfect sentience. No more a sense of "otherness." Evolution eschews petty rebellion. THE ABILITY TO HOWL AS THE WOLVES BASED ON ACUTE BRAIN FUNC-*gets shot*

[nemesiswontdie]

I'm still holding out for a Snatcher sequel. Gillian needs to get to Moscow and choke a bitch.

yes i agree with this completely and maybe Randam can be remade like metal gear mk2?

EDIT: na that couldnt work since Randam got the main blow from that satellite thingy

[Member_of_STARS]

It's not hard to see it from your perspective. It's not his, nor is my assumptions on why he continues either could be possibly incorrect. But in short no one would care as much about him directing more titles except for these reasons... which are reasons and not assumptions.

a) he constantly says this will be the last one he will direct, frequently names potential directors, and then doesn't allow it; personally I feels this shows more of underpinning of lack of confidence in his own team more than just being a perfectionist but we can take that as it is however we each view it;
b) a role as creater/writer/producer still allows his vision to be the major part of the game. he's also still the head of the whole department and can work with the director if he's really not happy, because he's still the boss.. in that regard it's about time he even just worked on something else;
c) your comment on the underpinnings of "terribad" is entirely subjective (as this thread shows), everyone has an opinion on where or if MGS has jumped the shark, or nuked the fridge, as far as franchise goes but;
d) regardless however most can agree one one thing, which is that with the exception of potential bit between MGS2 and MGS4 involving Raiden and Big Boss' body, the story of "Solid" is done. And even if Kojima is wanting to continue directing another title in the main series as he apparently does, then he should stop complaining that he doesn't get the chance to work on any other projects he has in mind when he then works on 3 major Metal Gear titles in a row. Because thats what I heard and read a lot of after the last three titles from him.

Basically it's easiest to sit there and point out how absurd his return to the directors chair straight away is after all the showboating about how hard it is to get the chance to work on something else and constantly during the past seven years saying he's going to not direct the next.

Unless you have a direct control over the game being created, theres not much you can do about the direction the development takes. Whether hes perfectionist, has lack of confidence in his team, whatever, doesnt mean that once he gives the creative control over to his staff, the game wont go bad. I have a lot of respect towards him for not giving it up to the chance.

Considering the complaining and hate Ive seen for the last 4 years, its as if some of you *want* him to give up MGS, just so you would have some validation to your negativity. Because frankly, the talent of the team does not mean the team can pursue the leaders vision without his lead.

You said you you were happy that me nor missvalentine were leading a successful franchise. But with all honesty, its your kind of mentality which has caused a lot of franchises to stray off the winning formula that made them great. And yes, while a lot of them became a commercial success, with change in leadership, and change in direction, a lot of fans were alienated. Looking at MGS today, its one of the only games that has stayed more or less the same.

And at the same time, stayed successful.

All in all. It just makes a lot more sense to "assume" that Kojima doesnt want his game to be ran into ground, than to call him an egoist.

[missvalentine]

^ I completely agree with Member of Stars.

If there were to be a Metal Gear Game made without Kojima at the helm, i don't think id want to see it. Because Metal gear is Kojima's thing, no one can do better than him at his own thing. It would be like seeing a Star Wars film not made by George Lucas, it's just wrong.

You know Steven Spielberg Directed Jurassic Park 1 and 2, but not 3, and take a look at Jurassic Park 3, is it anywhere near as good as the first two? No! same thing with Terminator, It's not Terminator without James Cameron behind the camera. Why? because other directors no matter how hard they try can not do a better job.

An example is the Alien film series. Ridley Scott made the first film, And James Cameron Made the second. both were great but both were very different films. In fact while filming Cameron was criticized for not being enough like Scott was in his certain style of directing. Because each director has his own style of making things. But lucky for us Cameron was good enough to make it succeed in his own style. But that is one of the rare cases were it has worked perfectly. And after that every Alien film has had a different Director, and only the first two were truly great films.

If i was to make a great series and be director, i would not want anyone else to direct any sequels to it because...

A. I don't care how much money could be made, so no sequels unless i think there needs to be one.
B. I would not trust someone else with my vision. since it's mine and how am i supposed to transfer what i see in my head of what i want a scene to be like to another person.
C. It will not be as good and will not stay true to the series if made by another director.

fixed

Yes, because none of us has ever wanted to not to do something, but still be forced to it by either peer pressure or a sudden moment of impulse and inspiration.

Give the guy a break. He obviously wants to leave the series to hands he can trust, and apparently Konami doesnt have anyone up to his standards. Last thing we need is MG and MGS turning into the same pile of incoherent crap RE did.

I agree with you, but i also think MGS4 qualify as an incoherent piece of crap.

I like Kojima but i hate what he did with MGS4 and it's story.

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If you guys want to vent, lets all vent about the cancellation of "6 days in Fallujah".

What!? You gotta be kidding! Why! I was looking forward to that game! It looked interesting.

You just keep telling yourself that.

And there are plenty of plotholes and inconsistencies in MGS4, and now for the whole series, in fact, when you consider how much crap Kojima retconned to make the "story" in MGS4 work, and it still fails miserably.

Yes! finally someone who agrees about MGS4 being crap and the stupid number of retcons within it.

No offense intended, but glad your not a director of a successful series with that attitude.

If i were to make a successful series then hand it over to someone else, who says it's still gonna be the same series and not be changed completely just so the new director can make a quick buck.

[nemesiswontdie]

everyone complains about MGS4 to much. i mean yha it wasnt the best game in the MGS series but still it was a decent game.

[aris13]

A. I don't care how much money could be made, so no sequels unless i think there needs to be one.

It's not your call, if the studio wants to make a sequel they will do it even without you directing.

[Vector]

Sooo...E3 should be pretty wild this year, huh?