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  • #16
    Originally posted by Helegad View Post
    The story was original, you can't deny that. So yes, you missed out on it because YOU and YOU ALONE bought it for the gore-factor.

    GTA is a popular series because of it's great gameplay, among everything else. GTAIV was not very controversial, but it made $30 million on the first day in the UK alone. Everyone loves GTA because it's a diversion from the boring, tedious, montonous lifestyle we all lead.
    The story was so origional that I guessed the whole thing before I finished playing out the first parts of the game? No, not really. It's not especially origional. 'The Most Dangerous Game' for a start. There's plenty of stories out there of humans forced to defend themselves against people hunting them for there own and others entertainemnt. Heck, it was part of the ending to a Clive Cussler novel.

    And I didn't buy it for the gore. Didn't buy it at all, in fact. A friend brought it over going how cool he'd heard it was, I played, and eventually I asked if there was anything other than hiding in a shadow, jumping out and ramming a blunt iron pipe into someone's guts and swirling it around. He said no, not really, and so I went and played something more interesting instead.

    Also: Haven't played GTA since the third one.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Helegad View Post
      YOU and YOU ALONE bought it for the gore-factor.
      Do you really believe that? That (regardless of who it might or might not have been) that only ONE person would've bought this game just for the gore?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Helegad View Post
        because it's a diversion from the boring, tedious, montonous lifestyle we all lead.
        that is also the case in mahunt, even if it looks just like some game for gore freaks at the first view.

        and i stick with my opinion, don't forget that i like both games, but manhunt 1 wouldn't have sold so much copys if it wouldn't have the execution scenes and all the other violent stuff in it. Most manhunt players i know did not know the game before some of their friends described how brutal the game was..

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kevstah2004 View Post
          Everyone loves GTA because it's the UK's stereotype of American gang culture just as Resident Evil is Japan's stereotype of gi joe cops. Fixed :-P
          It's fun. End of story.

          Same goes with Manhunt, and if you have the correct personality/views, you'll find the gore just adds to the fun factor.

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          • #20
            The only reason Manhunt sold so well was because of the controversy and the gossip about how gory it was. It wasn't because of an enthralling story and it wasn't because of gameplay. Every element of the game was sub-par. I played it and after ramming pipes through people's skulls for a couple of hours, I found it very boring. It's probably more exciting for you given the fact that it's banned in your country, a la Forbidden Fruit. When it's in your local rental store or you can occasionally see it pop up in game stores, it loses that "Wow" factor.
            Last edited by Alexia_Ashford; 07-26-2009, 07:07 AM.

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            • #21
              I dowloaded the leaked uncut rating pending version of MH2 for the PS2 and it is still collecting dust on my shelf, I played it once and was bored within the first 3 minutes.
              If he had a brain, he'd be dangerous.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Helegad View Post
                It's fun. End of story.

                Same goes with Manhunt, and if you have the correct personality/views, you'll find the gore just adds to the fun factor.
                Never played Manhunt, but what are you talking about with Correct Personality and Views statement?

                Are you saying that everyone but you and people like you are wrong?

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                • #23
                  No, he's saying that people with a certain personality will find the game fun and the gore simply a pleasant bonus. However, everyone disagrees with him. The game itself is nothing special...the plot is luke warm and the action is alright but not great. The game is built around the gore. The game even rewards you at the end of each level for how grusomely you killed your opponents.

                  In essence, to like the game you need to enjoy brutal violence such as this or something like Hostel. Personally I find gore needs something to go with it to make it more palatable. Same with sex. There needs to be a purpose to it beyond being sex in the movie.

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                  • #24
                    I think everyone here is against it for two reasons:

                    1. It was me who made the topic
                    2. You're looking too hard at the gore side of the game.

                    Can't anyone see a great stealth/action game here? Well, I can't be alone. Shitloads of reviewers gave it good scores. And don't say "oh yea, that was just because of the gore which they found refreshing/new/original/whatever", because it's not. They actually liked the game.

                    EDIT: Kevstah, I've got that beta too, but I need a modded PS2 now. Not that I actually have a PS2 anyway I'm getting it for PSP first, then I might shell out for a PS2.
                    Last edited by Helegad; 07-27-2009, 07:05 AM.

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                    • #25
                      I don't mind gore, but there wasn't much else too the game. It was lurk in a shadow, jump out, stab some dumb sod as hard as you can in the balls it comes out the top of his head and then rince and repeat. Maybe I missed the more stealthy bits in the later areas.

                      EDIT: And while you certainly aren't my favorite person I'm not gonna disagree with you just because it's you. You wanted my opinion. My opinion is the game sucked like a decent Thai hooker.
                      Last edited by Darkmoon; 07-27-2009, 01:39 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Helegad View Post
                        I think everyone here is against it for two reasons:

                        1. It was me who made the topic
                        2. You're looking too hard at the gore side of the game.

                        Can't anyone see a great stealth/action game here? Well, I can't be alone. Shitloads of reviewers gave it good scores. And don't say "oh yea, that was just because of the gore which they found refreshing/new/original/whatever", because it's not. They actually liked the game.

                        EDIT: Kevstah, I've got that beta too, but I need a modded PS2 now. Not that I actually have a PS2 anyway I'm getting it for PSP first, then I might shell out for a PS2.
                        Are you kidding? It's the perfect party game!

                        Nothing better then chopping off the genitalia of others and suffocating them with bags, or smashing their skulls with baseball bats.

                        The kids would love it.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Helegad View Post
                          I think everyone here is against it for two reasons:

                          1. It was me who made the topic
                          2. You're looking too hard at the gore side of the game.

                          Can't anyone see a great stealth/action game here? Well, I can't be alone. Shitloads of reviewers gave it good scores. And don't say "oh yea, that was just because of the gore which they found refreshing/new/original/whatever", because it's not. They actually liked the game.

                          EDIT: Kevstah, I've got that beta too, but I need a modded PS2 now. Not that I actually have a PS2 anyway I'm getting it for PSP first, then I might shell out for a PS2.
                          Sorry to advertise but this is your simplest solution to loading backup / homebrew no hardware modification is necessary and it's free. Sony blocked it on that latest SCPH-9000x slims though.
                          I was a bug tester that got the FASTBOOT option launched by a button feature included, that was my tiny contribution to the whole project
                          Last edited by kevstah2004; 07-28-2009, 01:07 AM.
                          If he had a brain, he'd be dangerous.

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                          • #28
                            So the PS2 boots off the memory card and makes it instantly hacked? I don't understand the jibber-jabber on the page

                            Does it work for a specific region or is it region free? (eg. I can get a PAL console and it'll work on it)

                            Oh, and Darkmoon, from chapter 10 or so onwards, the game turns into a shooter. Not many chances for executions. And the subway level is damn hard.
                            Last edited by Helegad; 07-28-2009, 06:10 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Helegad View Post
                              So the PS2 boots off the memory card and makes it instantly hacked? I don't understand the jibber-jabber on the page

                              Does it work for a specific region or is it region free? (eg. I can get a PAL console and it'll work on it)

                              Oh, and Darkmoon, from chapter 10 or so onwards, the game turns into a shooter. Not many chances for executions. And the subway level is damn hard.
                              Yes acting like a modchip Sony left in a update via memory card that booted a encrypted elf / ps2 program to update the ps2's dvd player we found it out last year after we examined a dumped ps2 bios. It works for any region but you can't do cross region installs.
                              It can used to run a program called ESR which will boot patched iso's of games burnt to a dvd the reason the iso needs to be patched is because the ps2 can legitimately play burnt dvd-v's therefore all that was needed to do was was to trick the ps2 into thinking it's reading a dvd-v file system instead to read the game files of the disc and thus bypass the secrman security checks the ps2's version of securom.
                              Last edited by kevstah2004; 07-28-2009, 08:10 AM.
                              If he had a brain, he'd be dangerous.

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                              • #30
                                How would you run this program off a memory card? Does it automatically happen on startup?

                                Also, I don't quite follow you when you say cross-region installs. Do you mean that the program will work on any PS2, but you can only play games from the PS2's native region?

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