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I had a massive reply to this orginally but it took so long to write I got logged out and lost it, so I'm rewriting a skimmed down version for Pikminister.
I had very little I could reply to directly because either you comments I agreed with or it's just my difference of opinion I've already stated, with exception to the following...
Firstly yeah, sorry I only wrote the US only numbers (estimated somewhere between 35-36 million) when I meant to put in the worldwides. The thing is though by the end of the last financial year, so just a few months back, Nintendo was supposed to have sold over 45 million in the US alone based on their holiday sales from 2 years ago. It shows you how much it's dropped off.
Back to the responce, there are numerous reasons why people would consider not upgrading. First and foremost on my mind originally, and something some people have gleefully mentioned above, is just how many of those 90 million even use their Wii currently. If you have a console collecting dust then it's unlikely you're going to upgrade.
The average age of a Wii owner is lot younger than that of a 360 or PS3 owner I would say so I think cost is prohibitive.
Additionally if the games they want turn out the same on the Wii-U compared to the PS3 and 360 then it might be a cheaper option to switch to another console when the Wii-U launches.
My original post had several other things but quite simply my point was that releasing half way in a generation with something which on it's first preview looks like a catch up and not a game changer is definently going to be a harder sell.
I totally agree they were forced, it's the same reason I mentioned it's reactionary of Nintendo this time. Not even including a drop in sales to the mix, they're listening to consumers, developers, and the like on what they'd want to see it and crafting it around trying to be a crowd pleaser. And to do that it's modern gaming, HD, online, hardcore market etc. etc. added to Nintendo's core business model.
The issue with it is, well firstly Nintendo seems to want to run this like they do with the DS/3DS and have both on market at the same time. I don't think they're that sure about it but will wait to see what the market uptake on the Wii-U will be before the severing of certain Wii ties.
Secondly the thing is a double edged sword. They're forced to showcase this thing very early, still a year away most likely. But that early showcase will sever Wii sales as they stand because anyone thinking about picking up a Wii who hasn't will not now, they'll wait for the Wii-U.
Additionally with Nintendo spending so much time focusing on the Wii-U at this event and not so much on the 3DS, I'm willing to bet there are also some non-early 3DS adopters now sitting on the fence a bit longer to see what Nintendo's future holds.
Changing the point away from the Wii-U slightly finally, out of Nintendo's control somewhat, one of the stupidest E3 moments I've ever heard of. Sega backpeddled earlier today, according to a story on Kotaku, and said that Aliens: Colonial Marines coming to the Wii-U is only a possibility, not actuality. If thats the case you shouldn't say it is at all.
There is a difference between vaporware announced for a console and then it just changes or dissapears, but for you to announce a game coming to other consoles also appearing on this when you're actually not sure about it at all.... is a bit FUBAR on the announcement front.
I had very little I could reply to directly because either you comments I agreed with or it's just my difference of opinion I've already stated, with exception to the following...
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Back to the responce, there are numerous reasons why people would consider not upgrading. First and foremost on my mind originally, and something some people have gleefully mentioned above, is just how many of those 90 million even use their Wii currently. If you have a console collecting dust then it's unlikely you're going to upgrade.
The average age of a Wii owner is lot younger than that of a 360 or PS3 owner I would say so I think cost is prohibitive.
Additionally if the games they want turn out the same on the Wii-U compared to the PS3 and 360 then it might be a cheaper option to switch to another console when the Wii-U launches.
My original post had several other things but quite simply my point was that releasing half way in a generation with something which on it's first preview looks like a catch up and not a game changer is definently going to be a harder sell.
Well in my opinion... Nintendo wasn't actually ready to unveil the WiiU at this point in time. Thus the lack of games and why even the controller was still in its BETA form.
They only did this because they felt that they were forced into it. The Wii's popularity was going down. And waiting until next year to announce it (or even later in September) would not help their chances at keeping the Wii brand name alive. You see, Nintendo wants to cash in on that brand. And that's why they took this gamble of releasing info about the WiiU despite it not being 100% ready for showtime. So a lot of details have yet to be worked out. There is time for that, though.
They only did this because they felt that they were forced into it. The Wii's popularity was going down. And waiting until next year to announce it (or even later in September) would not help their chances at keeping the Wii brand name alive. You see, Nintendo wants to cash in on that brand. And that's why they took this gamble of releasing info about the WiiU despite it not being 100% ready for showtime. So a lot of details have yet to be worked out. There is time for that, though.
The issue with it is, well firstly Nintendo seems to want to run this like they do with the DS/3DS and have both on market at the same time. I don't think they're that sure about it but will wait to see what the market uptake on the Wii-U will be before the severing of certain Wii ties.
Secondly the thing is a double edged sword. They're forced to showcase this thing very early, still a year away most likely. But that early showcase will sever Wii sales as they stand because anyone thinking about picking up a Wii who hasn't will not now, they'll wait for the Wii-U.
Additionally with Nintendo spending so much time focusing on the Wii-U at this event and not so much on the 3DS, I'm willing to bet there are also some non-early 3DS adopters now sitting on the fence a bit longer to see what Nintendo's future holds.
Changing the point away from the Wii-U slightly finally, out of Nintendo's control somewhat, one of the stupidest E3 moments I've ever heard of. Sega backpeddled earlier today, according to a story on Kotaku, and said that Aliens: Colonial Marines coming to the Wii-U is only a possibility, not actuality. If thats the case you shouldn't say it is at all.
There is a difference between vaporware announced for a console and then it just changes or dissapears, but for you to announce a game coming to other consoles also appearing on this when you're actually not sure about it at all.... is a bit FUBAR on the announcement front.
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