The Capcom Thread

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Call it what you will. Defend or lash out on it as you will. Chances are if you're here though then you have been influenced by their games to some degree.

As for me personally I've been giving a lot of thought as to a Capcom strike as of late. They just haven't been cutting it for me.

[Bertha]

No plans as of yet to localize Edgeypoo or awesome professor/lawyer combo? Fuck you Capcom...fuck yoooouuuu. I love those games...but because they are story based playing them in Japanese is completely pointless. Glass Rose...Hm...never heard of it, but I like the art style. I'll have to look into it.

[Dracarys]

A lot of this is untrue, outside of Capcoms control and just common development process that all devs encounter. You missed complaining that the name 'Biohazard' was changed to 'Resident Evil' in the west.

If you don't like the company then fine but posting like this criticising every little thing and including false stuff as well as posting some twice isn't a good way to go about it since it gives off a hater vibe.

I don't like all their practices (this gen mainly) but I don't give it much thought, buy their stuff or don't. I still think they make games with awesome gameplay, especially fighters where they leaps and bounds ahead of other companies, so I buy them.

[Smiley]

You say that a lot of it is untrue, but I'd like to know some examples to keep it updated and accurate.

[riderkid]

personally i canceled my RE revolations preorder and put the money on batman cause lord knows capcom will find some way to piss fans and retailers off again...right gamefly?

http://www.gamefly.com/game/nintendo-3ds/Resident-Evil-The-Mercenaries-3D/146300/

this is not a fake page BTW...and this is why i really am starting to think we should cut slack on the halo franchise at this point...so far they only did one remake of halo...and it was ten years later. how many ports of RE4 have we had since it came out?

[Dracarys]

RE5 DLC being on disc, it recieved a patch before it released that added versus, it used assets on disc but that is just common sense, why download all the skins etc again? Okami artwork is Capcoms, they didn't steal it. Whoever did the cover for the game just took the artwork from IGNs site.

The real problem is most of these are just complaints for the sake of complaining. No Megaman in MvC3? So what, are hundreds of characters can complain about, where is Tyrant, where is Leon, where is Barry, where is the guy from Dark Void, where is Venom etc etc. New DmC game...there isn't even a complaint listed. SFxT has a cameo? So? I like Cole, many people do, they'll like playing him I'm sure. Capcom didn't advertise a game well? Why should I care, I'm not getting money from Capcom. etc etc

personally i canceled my RE revolations preorder and put the money on batman cause lord knows capcom will find some way to piss fans and retailers off again...right gamefly?

http://www.gamefly.com/game/nintendo-3ds/Resident-Evil-The-Mercenaries-3D/146300/

this is not a fake page BTW...and this is why i really am starting to think we should cut slack on the halo franchise at this point...so far they only did one remake of halo...and it was ten years later. how many ports of RE4 have we had since it came out?

Gamefly are idiots, the save file doesn't really matter in this sort of game, especially for a rental. They just bought into the crap posted by various game sites desperate for hits. Here is another game with the same restrictions

http://www.gamefly.com/game/nintendo-3ds/Super-Monkey-Ball-3D/146335/

...yet they let you rent that one, just because it had no BS stories?

[riderkid]

RE5 DLC being on disc, it recieved a patch before it released that added versus, it used assets on disc but that is just common sense, why download all the skins etc again? Okami artwork is Capcoms, they didn't steal it. Whoever did the cover for the game just took the artwork from IGNs site.

The real problem is most of these are just complaints for the sake of complaining. No Megaman in MvC3? So what, are hundreds of characters can complain about, where is Tyrant, where is Leon, where is Barry, where is the guy from Dark Void, where is Venom etc etc. New DmC game...there isn't even a complaint listed. SFxT has a cameo? So? I like Cole, many people do, they'll like playing him I'm sure. Capcom didn't advertise a game well? Why should I care, I'm not getting money from Capcom. etc etc



Gamefly are idiots, the save file doesn't really matter in this sort of game, especially for a rental. They just bought into the crap posted by various game sites desperate for hits. Here is another game with the same restrictions

http://www.gamefly.com/game/nintendo-3ds/Super-Monkey-Ball-3D/146335/

...yet they let you rent that one, just because it had no BS stories?

yet you never answered the ? about the RE4 ports?

defending much?

[Dracarys]

yet you never answered the ? about the RE4 ports?

defending much?

Because I assume you can count to 4.

[Vito]

RE5 DLC being on disc, it recieved a patch before it released that added versus, it used assets on disc but that is just common sense, why download all the skins etc again? Okami artwork is Capcoms, they didn't steal it. Whoever did the cover for the game just took the artwork from IGNs site.

The real problem is most of these are just complaints for the sake of complaining. No Megaman in MvC3? So what, are hundreds of characters can complain about, where is Tyrant, where is Leon, where is Barry, where is the guy from Dark Void, where is Venom etc etc. New DmC game...there isn't even a complaint listed. SFxT has a cameo? So? I like Cole, many people do, they'll like playing him I'm sure. Capcom didn't advertise a game well? Why should I care, I'm not getting money from Capcom. etc etc



Gamefly are idiots, the save file doesn't really matter in this sort of game, especially for a rental. They just bought into the crap posted by various game sites desperate for hits. Here is another game with the same restrictions

http://www.gamefly.com/game/nintendo-3ds/Super-Monkey-Ball-3D/146335/

...yet they let you rent that one, just because it had no BS stories?

It's great to see someone with common sense about this matter.

EDIT: Resident Evil Zero for the Wii has audio and graphical problems?

[JcFFx]

I'm really not a fan of Capcom this gen. I hate on them for a lot of the points listed in the picture, but:

The real problem is most of these are just complaints for the sake of complaining.

becames more and more true the further down I read stuff from that list

E.g. RE Outbreak. Yes they shut down the servers. As much as I loved Outbreak, they averaged less than 100 players during their peak periods the last few months they were up (bumped up maybe another 100 upon news of it shutting down). There's really no financially good reason to keep them up.

That, and the
"These games were Nintendo exclusive, but 3 of these were ported to PS2!"
(*2 lines later*)
"This game was Nintendo exclusive and wasn't ported to PS2!"

I mean... take one position and stick with it... >_>

[TheSelfishGene]

Bar Dead Rising 2 I haven't really enjoyed a Capcom game this generation. That says nothing about their business practices, just that I haven't really had fun playing their games.

[Enetirnel]

RE5 DLC being on disc, it recieved a patch before it released that added versus, it used assets on disc but that is just common sense, why download all the skins etc again? Okami artwork is Capcoms, they didn't steal it. Whoever did the cover for the game just took the artwork from IGNs site.

The real problem is most of these are just complaints for the sake of complaining. No Megaman in MvC3? So what, are hundreds of characters can complain about, where is Tyrant, where is Leon, where is Barry, where is the guy from Dark Void, where is Venom etc etc. New DmC game...there isn't even a complaint listed. SFxT has a cameo? So? I like Cole, many people do, they'll like playing him I'm sure. Capcom didn't advertise a game well? Why should I care, I'm not getting money from Capcom. etc etc

RE5 and the DLC bit, it's actually in regard to the statement issued that it wouldn't be possible for them to patch in support for Move whereas it was perfectly fine for other companies to do so.

The 360 version of Gold Edition is overall redundant when you consider the pre-owned/used market and that without the DLC codes bundled in when purchased, it's essentially the same basic game and despite that factor - it's still being sold even in a used state when it's being priced higher than the basic RE5 when without the codes, it's the same thing.

So it's bit of a rip-off for anyone that may purchase it and end up with a used copy (which often happens to me at local stores).

The factor that whomever was working on the cover for the Wii port of Okami was too lazy to actually get the art from Capcom as it had originally been provided in press material to IGN and what made it worse was that it had been passed UNNOTICED. On top of that, I'm STILL seeing brand new copies of the Wii Okami with the IGN watermarked image still being used despite that Capcom apologized for it and said it would be removed, offered a alternative covers for a limited time.

But despite all of that, brand new copies ordered in that are coming more or less directly from the vendor still have the botched cover.

It isn't that hard to make a request for resources when working on a layout and it'd be doubtful that they would have the original resources digitally for the art and the like that were reprinted for when the sequel to Okami came out on the DS.

So, yes. That is a screw up considering they have it and ended up just grabbing an image of the art from IGN, which is why it's considered "stolen" despite it being their own property that the person in-charge was clearly too lazy to do it properly.

As for the advertising for the game, things were modified as to avoid controversy after numerous issues with groups regarding violence against women, animal cruelty, sexualization of characters that are purposely young children but to top it off - they've begun offending communities, such as the transgender one regarding comments on the official site, in-game jokes and even staff making jokes about Poison despite that Poison was originally a female character, that they made a transgender to avoid a controversy on violence against women to audiences outside of Japan.

People have actually being trying to contact them to discuss it with them but haven't had any response back despite trying the official site, PR staff and the like. Not really surprised they haven't heard a response as I've requested comments from PR staff or have reported a few copyright infringements only to have those messages read, ignored and nothing was done about it despite that it was clear infringements on their own damn products (big bootleg ring that had no publishing rights for the region among other things like ripping content and selling it in phone games and other crap for insane prices whilst claiming it was an official product when it wasn't).

So, with that and them limiting their marketing and then complaining about sales on titles that practically NOBODY KNEW ABOUT and then refusing to release it in other regions due to "poor sales" and a predicted poor sale amount for those other regions seems a bit ridiculous if there's actually no sort of marketing for it.

I remember when Glass Rose was announced, there was actually a decent amount of interest in it but that completely vanished when Capcom didn't bother to market it outside of Japan and then later removed the US release date.

To the point that a few people still remember it and the usual comment I've heard when discussing it was "Wasn't that game scrapped or something? Shame, it looked like it had an interesting art style".

Considering that it has similar gameplay mechanics to the Ace Attorney games and how popular they've been, you can see why a few people thought it was a bit weird how they didn't exactly bother to market it and tried to rely on the sheer popularity of the Japanese musician involved in it to hit sales.

Or how at the time they were still in a financial slump and were rejecting offers and contracts from other companies that could have helped them with their other games in development at the time.

Like how they were also the ones to handle the marketing for Glass Rose, despite it being a joint game with Cing Inc. (Trace Memory, Hotel Dusk and the like) - so what was the point of them trying to handle the marketing for a game, failing with said marketing (constant spamming of one particular render with little to no actual information on it or footage outside of the one trailer from Tokyo Game Show 2003 and some early beta screens).

Oh, and I suppose breaking the game's official website that wasn't officially posted before putting the site up and down repeatedly around the game's release didn't exactly help things either.

I mean, there was some work from Capcom involved in the game but overall from the staff I've spoken with - the general comment was more or less that they were barely involved in it.

So it seems stupid to do essentially no marketing for a game and expect it to sell insanely well, only to complain about the sales results later on and then decide that audiences, such as America won't like the game despite it having almost the same gameplay as the Ace Attorney games (which were doing rather well in terms of popularity and sales), but in 3D and on the PS2 console which at the time still had a pretty high install number.

So there's that and changing things entirely for different regions, such as the game title and the like to avoid controversy despite responses back to those groups demanding the title Clock Tower 3 be pulled from shelves and banned, were more or less only intending to be a bit of psychological horror and that they wouldn't modify it despite the complaints and then, Clock Tower 4's title is changed repeatedly before it's released without any marketing outside of Japan again.

EDIT: Resident Evil Zero for the Wii has audio and graphical problems?

Yes, the audio is clearly compressed and has been damaged in contrast to the original GameCube version when compared across the GameCube, GameCube disc in the Wii, and the raw files.

It sounds really quite tinny and there's also some issues with models having glitches (loading up incorrectly) and the like that weren't present in the original game.

Being a port to a console that is already compatible with the original disc shouldn't have caused any issues with it but there are some issues with it.

I'm really not a fan of Capcom this gen. I hate on them for a lot of the points listed in the picture, but:

becames more and more true the further down I read stuff from that list

E.g. RE Outbreak. Yes they shut down the servers. As much as I loved Outbreak, they averaged less than 100 players during their peak periods the last few months they were up (bumped up maybe another 100 upon news of it shutting down). There's really no financially good reason to keep them up.

That, and the
"These games were Nintendo exclusive, but 3 of these were ported to PS2!"
(*2 lines later*)
"This game was Nintendo exclusive and wasn't ported to PS2!"

I mean... take one position and stick with it... >_>

As for the Outbreak one, a fair amount of people were excited to play it in Europe and Oceania, but after being unable to play the first one online a lot of interest was lost in it.

And yet, the Japanese servers remain up and if you want to play it - you have to go out of your way to be able to get an online game up when they could actually resolve the issue in a matter of ways at the current time.

And that was more or less regarding - these were announced to be Nintendo exclusive, however three of the five were ported to the PS2. One was cancelled and then there was a suggestion that we may see P.N.03 ported to the PS2.

Then they later said that RE4 was the only Nintendo exclusive, DESPITE THAT... it ended up ported with additional content.

So no, it isn't a complaint that the game wasn't ported to PS2 - only pointing out it was the ONLY ONE that WASN'T ported out of the so-called "Exclusive Capcom Five" games.

And as for the list, it's going around so people can add on what they're disappointed with Capcom doing overall so I'm waiting to see how long this thing actually gets to.

[Beanovsky Durst]

My only complain with Capcom is the way they milk with multiple releases of the same game.

Street Fighter 4 and Marvel vs Capcom 3 are my best examples... It's bullshit that first time owners can't upgrade their versions to the superior ones via DLC, for example. It was acceptable maybe 15 years ago, but today is just them being asses.

I found Resident Evil 5 Gold for the PS3 very useful, since I can have a physical backup of the DLC; but for Xbox it's a joke that they give you codes for the dlc, I know that the DVD-DL media obviously can't hold the same amount of data as a blu-ray disc, but there are ways to get the content by slight compression and removing duplicate assets... I can't say I'm sure it's possible, but there's a chance.

[nemesiswontdie]

My only complain with Capcom is the way they milk with multiple releases of the same game.

Street Fighter 4 and Marvel vs Capcom 3 are my best examples... It's bullshit that first time owners can't upgrade their versions to the superior ones via DLC, for example. It was acceptable maybe 15 years ago, but today is just them being asses.

[Rombie]

Good one cracked.com, but you're missing "X +" at the end. :p