HD Collection PS3 Exclusive (Hah! 360 too) /New VAs

[Wrathborne]

What if the new soundtrack is better? Or Perhaps different by equally as good?

There is quite a double standard I noticed, look at the RE4 HD comments and you have people saying "It is the exact same game in HD, what a lazy effort, don't waste your money, don't support this"

Then you get the SH Collection not only improving visuals but redoing VA and soundtrack and people are saying "Why are they changing it, don't support this!!!!"

The problem with the SH HD remake isn't that they're adding to it, but taking away from it.

I really don't think that the new soundtrack will be better or on Par with the original. Yamaoka was the one who created the original iconic and highly influential tunes that the series is famous for, Not only that he was working with the original development team when he was doing this as well.

That not only gave him the insight he needed but a stronger understanding of the game itself.

I have no doubt that the new soundtrack wont be bad, but it wont be up with the original.

By getting new VA's and a new composer they're taking away a lot of the soul of the original game.

The reason everyone is so upset at this and you arent, it's because your opinion is in the minority on this discussion. That's not a bad thing, your opinion is justified as is the opinions of everyone else who disagrees with you.

But as the saying goes, 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'.
The original voice acting wasn't epic, but it wasn't really bad either, should be left alone.

The music on the other hand shouldn't be touched at all, it was and is perfect. If they wanted to add a few new tunes made by someone else that's cool, but if they're just going to redo everything their own way thats a real insult to Yamoaka and the fans.

[aris13]

By getting new VA's and a new composer they're taking away a lot of the soul of the original game.

The new composer is working ONLY on Downpour right? RIGHT?

[Smiley]

Downpour and Book of Memories.

[riderkid]

just found out the price of this game will be 49.99 and will be out in december (source Gamestop)

No offense to konami but you can now kiss it. Not only are you taking away more of the game now your making it 50 bucks? you take all we love from these games(voice acting, music) then you price it to the point of only being 10 dollars short of a new release?

Why?

The splinter cell HD set is only gonna be 40 at release and thats 3 games! sly coopers HD collection is only 30 and it was 40 at launch! even prince of persia is only 40 bucks and that once again had 3 games! I understand your charging 50 for the MGS collection but did not include a copy of the GC port of the first MGS? why?

so for 2 games you charge us 50 dollars when i can go to amazon and buy both games for under 40 dollars used on my PS2? not to mention i can just download the PC versions if i want better resolution! I know we have a ban on piracy but if they do not allow us to switch i swear to god I'm pirating the PC versions!

[Smiley]

With MGS HD it makes sense. You're getting the complete versions of MGS2 and 3 (which include the old-school Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake) not to mention Peace Walker on home consoles.

With the Silent Hill collection you're at least getting the complete version ofSilent Hill 2, however the Maria minigame and new voice performances do not warrant the extra ten dollars IMO as the MGS content excels way more in that variety.

Also RE4 and Code Veronica have their complete versions and are about $40 in total.

[riderkid]

With MGS HD it makes sense. You're getting the complete versions of MGS2 and 3 (which include the old-school Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake) not to mention Peace Walker on home consoles.

With the Silent Hill collection you're at least getting the complete version of Silent Hill 2, however the Maria minigame and new voice performances do not warrant the extra ten dollars IMO as the MGS content excels way more in that variety.

Also RE4 and Code Veronica have their complete versions and are about $40 in total.

my only complaint with MGS was the exclusion of MGS1, thats my only complaint as i have tried both games and enjoyed them. i just wished that MGS1 was in the package. I think honestly that silent hill will not be worth it. if they add a classic option then yes i will try it but until they admit there wrong im sorry, i'll rent downpour and stick with SWtor.

also they announced the prices for the re HD games?

[Dracarys]

also they announced the prices for the re HD games?

1600 MS points / £16. Each.

[MeanBob]

In case you guys didn't see, the team over at RelyOnHorror reported an interview from TheGamingLiberty with Troy Baker, the new voice actor for James Sunderland. He shed a bit of light about Guy Cihi getting contacted and how Konami really wanted him to be back on board to voice James again.

Apparently, Guy was offered the role in the HD Collection, but ultimately turned it down due to his demand for residuals that did not exist.

“You never bash your employers. You never bash the people who gave you a huge leg up no matter what they’ve done or what you feel that they’ve done. But the fact that he’s talking about residuals being in videogames shows you just how out of the loop he is because residuals don’t happen. They don’t exist.” said Baker.

I don't think any of us are so sure about these "non-existent" residuals, but...

The rest of article can be seen here:

http://www.relyonhorror.com/latest-news/troy-baker-explains-why-james-sunderland-was-recast/

http://thegamingliberty.com/index.php/2011/08/23/exclusive-interview-troy-baker-the-new-james-sunderland/

[Smiley]

Sounds very fishy. Troy speaks on behalf of his experience in the voice industry yet despite his advice he does seem to be shift the blame to Guy Cihi even though James is not eh only character being replaced. If it was just James then this would make sense to me as would Douglas from SH3 given his VA's death. But no, we clearly hear the other SH2 character having replacements as well including Mary Elizabeth casting herself as the pivotal female lead in SH2.

Sorry to sound like a cranky git, but I do believe there's more to it than what Troy is letting on.

[Dracarys]

Sounds very fishy. Troy speaks on behalf of his experience in the voice industry yet despite his advice he does seem to be shift the blame to Guy Cihi even though James is not eh only character being replaced. If it was just James then this would make sense to me as would Douglas from SH3 given his VA's death. But no, we clearly hear the other SH2 character having replacements as well including Mary Elizabeth casting herself as the pivotal female lead in SH2.

Sorry to sound like a cranky git, but I do believe there's more to it than what Troy is letting on.

He also says they decided to give everyone new VAs to make it feel newer. If they needed replace a VA from each game anyway why not?

[Smiley]

Did they need to though?

[riderkid]

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(source:The Magicbox) Konami explained that the reason Silent Hill 4 was excluded from the Silent Hill HD Collection for PS3 and Xbox 360, was because of fans reactions, Konami just wanted to include the most popular parts of the series in the collection.

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...I'm sorry, I need to go scream now...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Smiley]

Update: Guy Cihi has made the following statement on his Facebook page (thanks to alchemillahospital.net):

[riderkid]

Update: Guy Cihi has made the following statement on his Facebook page:

“The problem with Konami is that there were never any agreements for reuses of my performance. In fact… there aren’t any written agreements at all. It was an oversight on Konami’s part. Once Sony picked up the theatrical rights for the SH2 title, I guess Konami figured it would spark interest for a yet another re-release. So after many years of no contact, Konami asks me to sign a back-dated release. I said that I was open to discussing reuses of my performance. I never heard back from them. Instead of talking to me, Konami decided to create new voice tracks.”

...ever sicne reading the above statement and the reason of no SH4 in the colelction is due to fan reactions (irony?) i have had to start taking blood pressure pills like fucking candy!

[Beanovsky Durst]

(source:The Magicbox) Konami explained that the reason Silent Hill 4 was excluded from the Silent Hill HD Collection for PS3 and Xbox 360, was because of fans reactions, Konami just wanted to include the most popular parts of the series in the collection.

What a bunch of bullshit. So SH4 not in the collection is because fans don't like it, but its TOTALLY COOL to change the VA and the music for both SH2 & SH3 which were fine as they were? The Room is a great game, at least for me.