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  • More from Guy:

    I regret to say it, but even if Heather turns up tomorrow, at this point I think it is too late for SH3. Tomm’s official announcement made that clear (at least to me). He gave two reasons for not having the original voices in SH3: logistical, and technical.

    The logistical reason has to do with issuing master discs to the duplicator/packager so that they can physically duplicate, package produce and deliver the games in time to for a January 2012 distribution. These discs must be shipped by ocean container, otherwise the costs would be too high. Publishers routinely allow six weeks for ocean shipping from port to port. After clearing customs, most likely in L.A., it requires another two to three weeks for distribution to the various retailer outlets across the USA.

    I believe the technical reason is that integrating the two-voices option would take time to re-program. According to what Tomm told me, the original masters were encoded without accurate notes. That means a spaghetti-like mess of somebody else’s code would need to be sorted through before any new options could be added.

    With enough time, these problems could be sorted out. Unfortunately, there isn’t any more time.

    I feel bad for the fans of SH3.
    Recently though it seems as though Jeremy finally found Heather though he says rather bluntly that at this point it's too late.

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    When I asked him about it he had this to say:

    I only asked her once and her initial response was to ask for some compensation. But after I reported that to Tomm at Konami, he said it wouldn't matter anyway because they can't put her voice in. So the point is moot. She maybe could have been convinced to do it for no compensation, probably even, but it would not have made a difference. End of story.
    That's a bummer. Sounds to me like the issue is more in tune with their release date. They're getting this out by January and so Konami is pushing forward. If there was any problem with the code or technical aspect then I'm sure these could have been resolved with more time.

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    • Blaustein needs to back the fuck off from this. He's speaking as if he's an official mouth piece but he's not. I don't doubt it'll change the outcome especially if it is to late due to the game going to duplication, but blasting people for doing EXACTLY the same sort of stuff that got the other original actors from SH2 back in the game doesn't need such a heavy handed response.

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      • Originally posted by Rombie View Post
        Blaustein needs to back the fuck off from this. He's speaking as if he's an official mouth piece but he's not. I don't doubt it'll change the outcome especially if it is to late due to the game going to duplication, but blasting people for doing EXACTLY the same sort of stuff that got the other original actors from SH2 back in the game doesn't need such a heavy handed response.
        Are you referring to the comment about petitions? That was Hulett.

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        • No I think he means Jeremy's replies to leave Heather alone when fans have been making a viral campaign to track her down. As I recall he had asked if anyone had any contact information on her or Clifford Rippel. Sure enough Clifford had been found and signed his waiver. This is only my opinion here, but I think that because it's too late Jeremy doesn't want anymore drama centered on Tomm or Heather.

          There's people out there already ridiculing Guy for originally seeking compensation. If Heather is trying to then imagine how some rabid fans would react to Heather and blame her for the original voices not in SH3 HD. I don't like that the HD collection is moving forward with half a game's worth of original voices, but it sounds like even if they could get Heather's waiver it's still out of Tomm's hands. All he can do is promote his new cast of replacements and sell as many copies of this collection as he can. Jeremy is also working on 'Book of Memories' so he too is in a difficult position to back Konami's decisions even though it's clear to everyone including them that they would prefer the fans get what they want out of this.

          So I'm just going to cling on to my original copy. I mean this is not only my favorite Silent Hill in the series, but it also came included with Akira Yamaoka's soundtrack when it was released. This is certainly a collector's item for any Silent Hill fan at this point.

          And even though I personally am not happy with using replacement actors I know newcomers to the series will probably not know or care either way and might even prefer them.

          I just know that it was a miracle to get as far as we did and get most of the original cast back in SH2. No disrespect to Troy Baker, but Guy Cihi will always be James Sunderland to me. And Heather Morris is Heather Morris. No replacement actress can take that from her in my book.
          Last edited by Smiley; 12-01-2011, 10:51 PM.

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          • Originally posted by GuardhouseMusic View Post
            Are you referring to the comment about petitions? That was Hulett.
            No, as Smiley said it's in regards to the Heather stuff before (cheers Smiley). I think Jeremy just gets too involved and the like because he's passionate, which would be great except he also flip-flops constantly on everything and so what he once said he then later says something completely the opposite.

            In this case he acted at first like he didn't want to be dragged into the original debate, then he had an opinion, and then he did fully jump in and - as was mentioned - even tried to put his hand in to being a mediator for fixing the voice acting debacle by reaching out to the various actors - and now he's turning around and telling people in fairly strong wording that doing it like it was done before with the fans trying to find the actors is wrong. Because he can't make up his frickin mind, he just shouldn't even be talking about it anymore and just let it be. The rest of the team actually involved in the franchise seemingly worked this out recently.

            While I also agree with Smiley's comments that it's reached a point of being late in the game for this, you would however think if they (and this is Konami staff and management in general) would understand the fans were obviously passionate enough to create such a fuss to get them to consider putting the original voices in, and then managing to help do it, that delaying the HD release another month or two just to get the last of the major original VA's for 3 in to please everyone would kinda be worth the extra bit of time and effort on all accounts. I mean it's one thing if Heather doesn't want to, whatever, but they might as well try at this point. It's like making the effort to fixing this for the people buying it to like 85% but instead of spending a few extra weeks to bring it up to 100%, just leaving it there and hoping it doesn't impact on the people buying it. Just seems a little silly to me.
            Last edited by Rombie; 12-02-2011, 12:40 AM.

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            • He sounds like a dick.

              It's funny how he took credit for getting back the SH2 actors as well, as far as I remember.

              ughhh, annoyed. Heather Morris was amazing as Heather, her character was ALSO based on Heather so it's really hard to see why the care wasn't taken for Silent Hill 3 either, it was neglected in this whole 'collection', the obvious selling point was SH2, which isn't bad, but 3 is overshadowed by it...

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              • SH3 HD hax0red > SH3 HD > SH2 HD

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                • Well, it's very possible to replace the sounds, but it's a grey area going into that lol

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                  • Today was interesting for me. I go to take my brother shopping and I come to find at a gaming pawn shop a copy of Silent Hill 3 with a strategy guide for $30. I figured I might as well collect another copy while I can, and sure enough the soundtrack was still included. I wonder if the value will go up any once the HD collection releases.

                    EDIT: Lately I seem to be ridiculed as someone who isn't a true fan just because I encourage the original voices and had my friend play SH2 on his Xbox. Most popular seems to be Rely on Horror, but the same ones show up on Gamefaqs. I guess I have to blindly support every decision made no matter the reason. ;>_>

                    http://www.relyonhorror.com/latest-news/silent-hill-2-hd-to-officially-contain-old-voiceovers/
                    Last edited by Smiley; 12-12-2011, 06:16 AM.

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                    • Sorry for double post, but new vids came out for it.

                      First off a Silent Hill 3 walkthrough from Tomm featuring Heather's new voice.
                      http://chemiro.tumblr.com/post/15306...rs-walkthrough

                      Next we have a bonus Downpour demo.
                      http://chemiro.tumblr.com/post/15306...own-with-games

                      UPDATE: 1UP plays SH2 HD with new voices.
                      http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/34975
                      Last edited by Smiley; 01-04-2012, 04:40 PM.

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                      • Waaah, can't wait for the HD collection to release. While I did love Heather's original VA, I feel that having someone else isn't going to kill it entirely for me as I was never a huge fan of SH3 to begin with. Don't get me wrong, it's an amazing game, but a new VA just won't affect how much I enjoy it at all.

                        Besides, (well I can only speak for myself here), I've never heard this new VA and she might not be all that bad either. Bah, I'm usually a pessimist, seems I remain optimistic regarding things like these though.

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                        • gamestop is apparently the scrooge mcduck of the gaming retailers.

                          The company has decided to keep silent hill HD collection at its 49.99 suggested retail price despite every other retailer dropping it down to the more reasonable 39.99 price which is normal for many HD collections minus metal gear solid HD. despite the fact that i have brought up not just online but physical retailers that can actually challenge gamestop (walmart, target, kmart) to customer service themselves they have basically said they can price at what they want.

                          i bring this up since there is a walmart not even 3 doors down from my gamestop and i can just pay my friend money to hold on to so i can order from amazon, i would liek to support the guys at my gamestop since i like them but i cannot allow this 10 dollar price increase to go unjust.

                          contact your local gamestop and tell them to lower the price!

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                          • Must be a US thing. My store still has it set to launch at what's more or less the local equivalent of a "cheap/budget" release (of the non-shovelware type)

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                            • Got my order secured at a score.
                              Beanovsky Durst - "They are not pervs. They are japanese."

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                              • http://kotaku.com/5884110/hate-the-n...ium=socialflow

                                More comparison clips from SH2. James too melodramatic IMO. And I'm curious how people feel about Angela's new VA. Does she sound that much better to you?

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