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  • After actually hearing the new voices, I don't really see what the big deal is. Sound decent enough to me. Yeah, not having the option to play the game with the original voices is rather lame on principal, but as far as preserving the original VA performances for the cutscenes, all someone has to do is record the Original SH3 and then synch/mux the audio to the new HD cutscenes. I'll probably do this myself sometime. . .though I don't plan on picking this HD Collection anytime soon. . .
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    • Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
      10 Star rank is royal pain. Off the top of my head when I last (only time) done it.
      Yeah. I remember. Again not impossible, just time consuming.

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      • What's sad that this HD collection will be missing SH4: The Room which was released in the same GEN.

        Despite popular belief, I really enjoyed SH4.

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        • Originally posted by Kaneco View Post
          What's sad that this HD collection will be missing SH4: The Room which was released in the same GEN.

          Despite popular belief, I really enjoyed SH4.
          Yea , this game seems cool !
          Shame really , would they lose anything if they added it eh ?
          Darkness : Tactical reload wasn't even in deadly silence LMAO
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          • Originally posted by Mrox2 View Post
            Yea , this game seems cool !
            Shame really , would they lose anything if they added it eh ?
            They money it costs to port for a game that most people do not care about or like and is unlikely to influence sales much at all.
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            • Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
              They money it costs to port for a game that most people do not care about or like and is unlikely to influence sales much at all.
              Yeah, because it would cost SOOOO MUCH MONEY!!!!...just porting an old game (that has been in every format of the last Console GEN) with random voice actors like they did for SH3.

              They're probably saving it for the craptastic HD Collection: Volume 2 with SH: Origins & SH: Shattered Memories just to cash-in on the old games...or be even lazier and just release the PS2 versions on PSN which would take forever to be approved by Sony to be in an eventual PSN Store update in a very far future.

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              • Originally posted by Kaneco View Post
                Yeah, because it would cost SOOOO MUCH MONEY!!!!...just porting an old game (that has been in every format of the last Console GEN) with random voice actors like they did for SH3.
                These HD ports costs more than you think.
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                • Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
                  These HD ports costs more than you think.
                  Really ? Well Nice talking to ya ! Lol Jk
                  But Seriously , Making a game that they already have to work in HD on PS3 Costs them money ? it costs them 0$ , Eh ? Just a port nothing else , they have everything on their machines , but the un-needed silly new voices are what cost money Lol !

                  @Kaneco , Well as a PS2 Classic we will get it with its original voices at least ! , But Ew it would not be as epic as if it was included in the HD Collection ....
                  and Where is Silent Hill HD Graphic Remaster ? "The collection now misses the first game that made it what it is now ..."
                  Darkness : Tactical reload wasn't even in deadly silence LMAO
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                  • Dracarys is right though--it does cost money. I remember someone mentioned Capcom apparently spent over 1 million on porting RE4 HD(and that's ignoring the shroddy job they did). Even if they didn't bother cleaning/updating the graphics, you still have to spend the time rewriting the code so that it can work on the ps3. I'm not really trying to defend Konami. I think they showed what a bunch of cheap tits they are with the whole voice acting fiasco, but it is a business at the end of the day.
                    Last edited by valentinesdead?; 03-11-2012, 02:10 PM.
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                    • Originally posted by Mrox2 View Post
                      Really ? Well Nice talking to ya ! Lol Jk
                      But Seriously , Making a game that they already have to work in HD on PS3 Costs them money ? it costs them 0$ , Eh ? Just a port nothing else , they have everything on their machines , but the un-needed silly new voices are what cost money Lol !

                      @Kaneco , Well as a PS2 Classic we will get it with its original voices at least ! , But Ew it would not be as epic as if it was included in the HD Collection ....
                      and Where is Silent Hill HD Graphic Remaster ? "The collection now misses the first game that made it what it is now ..."
                      It does cost money to make the game work in HD, actually.

                      And the original is in the PSOne Classics section of the store. It's upscaled when you play it, so technically it's already in HD.

                      (Like valentinesdead, I'm not trying to defend Konami, just clearing the air about some misconceptions. )
                      Last edited by Canas Renvall; 03-11-2012, 03:17 PM.

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                      • I think you guys forget that 1 million dollars is chump change for a big company such as Konami and Capcom...proportionally, they would get more profit on a re-release than a new IP because of all the nostalgic fans who would buy it blindly without a second thought or from newcomers that get influenced by either said fans or by it's former history of fame.

                        As well as it's pretty obvious that most of the money goes to paying royalties/licenses and not to the actual game production of the re-release which is mostly 0 work.


                        Re-releases are just a way for them to fund their future projects, mostly based on the same series, and see the demand and interest for such series as reference for future plans/projects of said franchise.

                        @Canas, I think it costs money even to re-release a game completely unchanged.
                        Last edited by Kaneco; 03-12-2012, 05:52 AM.

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                        • Of course it does. Unless it's digital download, you have to pay for production and distribution of discs. With SH1 on the store, it costs them money to host it on the Store. Either that or Sony gets a cut of the profits, or something like that.

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                          • Originally posted by Canas Renvall View Post
                            Of course it does. Unless it's digital download, you have to pay for production and distribution of discs. With SH1 on the store, it costs them money to host it on the Store. Either that or Sony gets a cut of the profits, or something like that.
                            I don't think it's a simple production & distribution or a bandwidth cost...there might be more than just that such as long term contracts with VAs, commissions, advertisements, patents/royalties, etc.

                            ....but all in all, at the end of day as I've mentioned before, this is just chump change for them...especially with how much money they're going to make from these cash-ins.
                            Last edited by Kaneco; 03-13-2012, 02:09 AM.

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                            • Barring scaled ps1 game = HD, which is not even close (PS1 titles output at a max of 480 which is sub HD and downloads work exactly the same as if you put the disc in the ps3) Canas is correct.

                              The costs for HD won't be that small and the better and bigger the project the more the costs go up. While indeed the factor they're not making the game means its not as much as a new game, seeing as most of these sets have multiple game and require a lot of testing means they still cost. They then also have the same manufacturing, distribution and marketing costs as any normal release.
                              Last edited by Rombie; 03-13-2012, 05:01 AM.

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                              • I'm just now taking notice of the achievements/trophies for this game. One of them is getting the Green Hyper Spray in SH2, which requires a 10-Star Ranking. Now, I have played SH2 to death. I've gotten all the endings, beaten the game in less than three hours with no more than 2 saves, played to completion in every difficulty, unlocked everything aside from the aforementioned spray, but have never tried for a 10-Star Ranking.

                                So. Is it as terribly painful as everyone seems to make it out to be? I'm guessing the less than 500 points of damage combined with the save limit is the real killer. Any advice from those who have done this before? ..
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