AVPR

[Itashious_boy]

I have a few questions about this movie, the Alien Predator mix was a great monster and all but the movie didnt have the same feel as the first one did, all it was people running around getting killed everywhere, but i admit it was a good movie, but not what it could have been, because first off they didnt show the AP mix enough, and when they did there wasnt much to look at, it was always a closeup and you really didnt get to see what he looked like... now what my other question is why the basic aliens look way different than what they normally would look like

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anyone besides me noticing the differences? becuase i didtn like the way they changed the alien, their supposed to have a smooth top, the one in AVPR has ridges where the scalp would be, but anyways

i have nothing against the movie i thought it was great but the camera angles for fights wherent great at all, and it took away from my personal opinion ratings, we didnt get to see all that much fighting, but when we did it wasnt really nothing to go OOOHH all about, you would think that when predator elder guy was fighting the AP mix they would have showed the creature alo more, i was really dissapointed in the way they didnt show him, i really dont even know what it looks like unless i look at the cover

but i think there could be a reason why all the aliens have that ridge on their back though, maybe is was the fact that the AP was doing that makeout thing with all the preggars in the movie but idk, that could of had the effect on the way they looked but idk, i thought it was a really bad flaw

but anyways anyone else have any opinion on the movie?

sorry about the wall of text

[TheSelfishGene]

The Aliens in Aliens (1986 film) had heads with the ridges all along. There are a few other design changes as well, such as the number of fingers. I forget the rest, but the alien in the first film (1979) is different to the aliens seen in the second. I'm not sure how this is justified in the series. I'm not a huge expert. I looks like they based the AVP2 alien's design off the film Aliens.

I liked AVP 2 much much much more than AVP 1, mostly because I remember the first one took itself a bit too seriously, and didn't have enough monsters smashing skulls in for my liking.

[c2keo]

I thought both AVP movies were terrible. If the studio didn't greenlight these films, James Cameron and Ridley Scott would've made Alien 5.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aKnS7CGWNmU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQLRMIGA2I&feature=related

[TheSelfishGene]

If the studio didn't greenlight these films, James Cameron and Ridley Scott would've made Alien 5.

I didn't know that!
Fucking Anderson... ruining shit again (there wouldn't have been AVP 2 without #1)

[Spera01]

I didn't really like ethier of the movies, but I do have to say, I'd rather watch AVPR over the first movie any day. Come on now, predator + human team up = lame. AVPR though, personally just didn't feel like an alien movie to me, Xenomorphs walking down the streets and in like forests and shit just seemed really out of place in my opinion. Pretty decent though about how much the amount of gore increased from the first movie to the second. Still would of much rathered Alien 5 over AVPR though.

[Helegad]

I liked all of the Aliens, except for Resurrection which was bad on so many different levels. AVP1 and 2 I treated like action movies, and popcorn flicks which you could just sit back and relax with.

[Nomad9026]

Ok, I'am abig AVP fan and I liked AVPR, it wasn't great but I still like it though. The first AVP was bad it had some good moments but I don't like it. Anyway the desighn of the aliens were always different, they had a ridged heads in aliens and it was stated by the director that it means that they are older than the one from the first movie. So the older the alien the more ridged his head is, and the directors of AVPR are a big Aliens fans so they used similar desighn in their movie.

[Itashious_boy]

oh but how are they older? like older alien species? or just older as in age? i still think it had something to do with the fact of that makeout stff with the AP mix thing

[Nomad9026]

Older in age.

[Itashious_boy]

that doesnt make any sence cause they were just born in that movie and when they were just born in the first movie they never looked like that... it really confussed now...

[Dot50Cal]

I thought both were pretty terrible. The story just wasn't there. I come to Predator and Alien(s) for the story, not random killing. The human characters were all forgettable.

[Nomad9026]

It was stated that in Alien the creature were only 12 or so hours of age after bursting from human, in Aliens it was weeks, enough time to change shape alittle. In other alien movies directors just doesnt use that design of creature no canon explanation.

[Itashious_boy]

so directors will just use that ridge design at random?

[Mr. Spencer]

The Aliens franchise is dead to me now, and so is Predator. They managed to slaughter them both with a single stone, merged together to create something more palatable to the mainstream masses of the 21st century but in the process, destroying a sacred aspect of this man's childhood. Aliens is a timeless classic, with memorable characters and iconic scenes that will be remembered for years to come. Looking back at Alien versus Predator, I saw nothing that anyone would look back at in ten years and say to themselves, "Wow, wasn't that an epic scene?" - Actually, wait. Given the way that our so-called civilisation is going, it wouldn't surprise me if people gave it high praise, especially considering how low standards have fallen in regards to the franchise (and in a sense, society itself) - and a couple of other franchises, with the possible exception of Terminator, since I think T4 is going to go a long way to rebuilding the trust ravaged by T3 - but I digress.

It wouldn't be fair of me to criticise Paul Anderson, I was fond of Event Horizon and the grossly underrated Soldier (it's got Jason Isaacs and a script by David Peoples!) and for that reason alone, I couldn't judge the man too harshly for AvP - and by extension, the Resident Evil film. Returning to the topic, I wasn't particularly keen on Alien³. Not even Charles Dance could have saved that one. But what we're seeing today is an amalgamation of bastardisation, two franchises merged together to forge an extreme action flick - one that dulls the conscious mind on multiple levels at how something this abysmal was allowed to roam free in the cesspool of modern cinema.

I long for a return to the days of Aliens. The moronic guffawing of Private Hudson in the corridors of the Sulaco, the feministic empowerment that Ripley's character gave to young women of the 1980s, the pulsing orchestral soundtrack of James Horner, etc. Instead, today's generation have to make do with such tripe as this, cardboard cutout characters, unnecessary explosions, aforementioned cardboard cutout characters running away from the unnecessary explosions, and the biggest franchise raping shitstorm since the trifecta of fuckuppery that was the Resident Evil films.

[Twist]

^ What he said. *eats icecream*

I'm in the same boat as Mr. Spencer when it comes to all of the movie's listed above. The only good movie's in a given franchize are usually that prequels.

Predator 1 and 2 were great movie's though. Same with Alien/Aliens, it would seem. Although I do have to say however that I liked Alien 3 and Resurrection.