Just a few thoughts

[Corrin]

If you don't like this forum, don't view it or post in it. Easy, huh?

[Jill's Boob]

But it's when someone starts commenting on another person that it gets ugly.

Then why did your initial post in this thread attack the entire community? Isn't that the ugliness you speak of? You basically said this entire community aren't "true RE fans" and that "everyone" is a big jerk (including mods).

Again, you have committed the crime, yet everyone else is to blame for it.

People who invest a lot of energy into slandering others, dissecting their posts and taking out whatever they need to prove a person wrong.

Again - stop posting if you don't want your ideas dissected or used against you. You are indicting yourself with your own words.

I remind you, one more time, that your initial post in this thread attacked the majority (if not all of) the THIA regulars. But I guess "slandering" is only bad if it occurs to YOU.

As much as it is wrong for someone to just state something emotionally as if it is an undisputed fact, I firmly believe it's not right for anyone to grab on to one or a few such posts and start openly criticizing the poster rather than the posts.

So you're admitting that you were wrong, yet people are mean since they call you out on it? By this logic, in school, when you obviously answer wrong on a test, the professor should still give you an "A?" Is that how it works?

Once again, you act as if your posts should be immune to criticism. Yet you admit your "emotional" posts were wrong.

Listen, Rakoon, stop playing the "victim" and just be a part of the community. It is obvious you want to stay and talk RE. (I mean, you threatened to leave because of all the "meanies," yet you keep coming back to post subsequent entries.) Once you get over your "woe is me" attitude, you'll be able to become more involved and get to know people.

Everyone that has responded in this thread has more or less told you to just not take things to heart. But if you post comments, and it is something to debate/argue, expect it to be dissected or quoted. That's part of "message boarding."

Or, just heed Corrin's advice. His suggestion is pretty cut & dry.

[Rakkoon]

But if you post comments, and it is something to debate/argue, expect it to be dissected or quoted. That's part of "message boarding."

And that's perfectly fine. But it's far from fine when the comments are not on my posts but on me, and solely aimed at proving me wrong at all costs, even if that means twisting my words, editorializing, insulting and attacking personally me, not my posts. It's pretty much you who has been doing that repeatedly. I never said I would leave that forum. Again it's you twisting my words. Do you speak on behalf of the whole forum? You say how everyone has 'more or less told me' as if you speak for everyone, and you even go as far as counting the names of people who have supposedly 'rejected my posts'. Are you some kind of barometer? No, I wasn't right to be that emotional, but were you right to start openly commenting on me personally? I did not attack the community. Again, it's you making your own conclusions. I merely asked for less of the hostility you once more demonstrated.

[Scream]

Then again, Resident Evil has always been special to me. It's never been about a single character or a single game from the series. It's never been about games in general or playing games either. It's always been about RESIDENT EVIL. I've been a 'fan' of Resident Evil since 1998 and I truly appreciate what the true original Resident Evil once was. That was a different time I guess. It's not the same now and it will never be the same.

I think I can identify with you here. I like to categorize myself as a hardcore original RE fan who understands the true spirit and vision of RE, yet here are the list of things I don't do:

- Do not own any RE games in a physical form except RE1, RE 2 DC, RE 3 DC, Biohazard CV Complete and Biohazard Outbreak.
- Do not collect anything to do with RE.
- Have not played through RE0 other than the demo.
- Just barely keep up with the canon RE story.

It sounds strange but its not really. You define what the series is to you, not the people on here. To be honest I don't really care what Capcom do anymore as they're just planning from game-to-game which is a receipe for disaster. At least we still have a few good REs and a foundation to build upon.

If people want to enjoy RE the way Capcom said they should then THIA is the place to be as its sort of like an official fansite. If they want something else from RE other than that then they need to go elsewhere. I don't think this forum is too bad though, I think people here take in your opinion and give it a thought even if they don't explicitly say so.

[Darkmoon]

Well, as a mod I try to be unfair and unbiased. And I get a fair ammount of abuse for the work I do. I dunno how much crap the other mods get in there e-mail but I know the one I sign up to forums with is full of spam lists, porn and abusive messages. Oh, and on one lovely occasion someone sent me a thankfully handdrawn picture of a new born child being raped. Because as mods that's what we do.

Yeah. Fuck that.

I know folks say real life and the internet are two different things. For me they're not so much. I use them for the same hobbies, often talk to the same people via both. Sure, I know a few people online I don't IRL and vide versa. But there's a big overlap and I've never felt that simply being faceless was an excuse to be rude. Some people may think I'm a big whimp or something equally dim.

If that's the case, meh. Your opinion.

Rakkon, you aren't being entirely fair to the site. Or the people here. If you're opinion of what a true fan of the series is based entirely on what you think and feel then you're not gonna win many friends but you will influence people. And please don't say you're being picked on for your opinion. I'm sure there a lot of folk who disagree with my opinion about Resident Evil 5. That the game lacked horror and was even more actiony than RE4, but that there were slight improvements in the exploration (you could almost get lost in some areas. Almost) and puzzles (one took nearly six minutes to beat!). Some will think it's the greatest RE ever, others think it the worst. No one is wrong. But you'll notice no one is having a go at almost anyone else, either.

You're getting flak because, in the posts I've seen, you essentially say, 'You're all wrong and I'm right. Why can't you idiots see this?' And given the nature of the people here that's rubbed more than one person up the wrong way. Including me, especially your true fan comment in this thread. I despise it when people tell me that I'm not a true fan of a series I've been with since before it was released, who has played and dfeated every single game, who has argued long hours on things that normal folks wouldn't even notice. Yeah, I'm probably a touch overboard. But if I do or don't like a part of Resident Evil I'm entitled to my opinion and my right to love the series. Both of them.

So think damned hard before telling us there aren't any true fans here.

Regardless, boys and girls, keep this civil and personal comments to a minimun. I'm in a nasty mood for several reasons including but not limited to pain, illness, tests that involve my ass and a long camera and what the result of said test might be. So keep it civil or keep out of here because I am watching.

[Rakkoon]

...especially your true fan comment in this thread. I despise it when people tell me that I'm not a true fan of a series I've been with since before it was released, who has played and dfeated every single game, who has argued long hours on things that normal folks wouldn't even notice. Yeah, I'm probably a touch overboard. But if I do or don't like a part of Resident Evil I'm entitled to my opinion and my right to love the series. Both of them.

So think damned hard before telling us there aren't any true fans here...

Darkmoon, did I ever say there were NO true fans on this forum? I think my exact words were 'I initially thought there were many true RE fans here'. I just realized later the number wasn't that great. That is not to say I don't think there aren't ANY true fans here. And I feel the same way you do about being called not a 'true fan'. What's more, being called 'the worst kind of fan' and 'fanatic' and 'toddler' and 'troll' and so on and so on. Especially when I've done the same you have...'played and defeated every single game, argued long hours on things that normal folks wouldn't even notice'. You can say I've been rubbed the wrong way more than once. And I never meant you personally by the way.

[Jill's Boob]

But it's far from fine when the comments are not on my posts but on me, and solely aimed at proving me wrong at all costs, even if that means twisting my words, editorializing, insulting and attacking personally me, not my posts.

How are attacks on you "personal" when your presence (or that of any person, for that matter) here on this site is basically the content of your posts? And if I am not mistaken, this thread, and the original post...is about YOU. So each response is going to probably have something to do with YOU.

And quoting your posts verbatim is hardly "twisting, editorializing (you are misusing that word, BTW), insulting, or attacking."

It's just that much easier to refute your claims with your own words.

Do you speak on behalf of the whole forum? ... I merely asked for less of the hostility you once more demonstrated.

I do not speak on behalf of the whole forum, but your original post attacked a majority of the people here, did it not? And I knew all along (it took you until your third post) that I was one of your primary target, yet a response from me is unwarranted?

Again - I state that YOU want to be able to say what YOU want, yet anytime myself or anyone else offers a rebuttal, I (we) are being "hostile" or "bullying." What's that old proverb...? "Have your cake and eat it too." That's your position here.

Darkmoon, did I ever say there were NO true fans on this forum? I think my exact words were 'I initially thought there were many true RE fans here'. I just realized later the number wasn't that great.

How many times can you contradict yourself in one post? You're basically saying that , yes, there aren't many "true fans" here. But nice attempt at backpedalling.

You can say I've been rubbed the wrong way more than once.

Well, you're committing the same offense en masse. But again, your vantage point is that you are not in the wrong in any way. Only those who respond negatively toward you are doing the "offending."

Listen, dude, if me responding to your posts is the biggest crime being committed toward you, and solely ruining your time here at THIA, than I will completely ignore everything you write from this point forward. Would that be satisfactory to your delicate sensibilities?

Congratulations on your "moral victory."

[Darkmoon]

Fair enough, but you're still inferring that the majority of fans here aren't true fans. And that's simply not the case. Even though I disagree with some folks, especially a lot of the more fanatical Jill folk I would never dream of saying they aren't true fans. They may be obsessed on one detail or one character, but it wouldn't be hard to argue I'm obsessed with the horror, puzzle and exploration details of the game. We all have our little hang ups.

I'm sorry if folks have rubbed you the wrong way, but as I said, you did talk down to a few people as well. Which started first is something I don't know and, honestly, don't especially care about. Labeling people is wrong. If you label someone you're clearly a frickin idiot.

...see what I did there?

But we're all entitled to our own opinion...without an condescending attitudes or name calling.

[Sina]

This topic is comedy gold, by the way. But fuck all this eloquent, well-written hogwash. It's time for a rant.

I am sick of seeing that everywhere, in every topic. All this negative energy...and not only against me, but against everyone.

Ok you have got to be fucking kidding me. Go into your own profile and check "posts made by Rakkoon", and count how many of those posts are spreading positive energy in the forums, specifically regarding RE5. You are negativity, pessimism and misery incarnate. You've been miserable and whiny in 90% of your posts, which is exactly WHY so many people called you out on it to knock it the fuck off. I just can't believe you have the gall to blame negativity (of all things) on everyone else.

Right, I was one of the people who got infractions because I didn't end the conversation when the mods said it was over. Not that I blame them or anything, they didn't want a fight in the Jill topic, but the reason I didn't concider it over was because Rakkoon has obviously not learned a single thing from any of this. Listen, you have really got to snap out of it. Stop feeling so goddamn sorry for yourself, and learn that the world does infact revolve around the sun and not you... I can just picture you crying right now, and that infuriates me, since it's essentially because you feel a videogame character who you're obsessively devoted to was "misrepresented". You can backpaddle as much as you want, but that's basically it. That and your inability to cope with any critism of said videogame character, or any critism regarding your unhealthy obsession with her. Any critism at all infact. Stand up for yourself instead of complaining all the time and making these crybaby posts explaining how much you're suffering. You need to be able to take and deal with critism in life, so it would be in your best interest to read all these posts thoroughly and try to look at them from our point of view and see if maybe, possibly, you did something too to invoke such "hostility".

[Darkmoon]

Sina, you have been warned before. I won't warn you again because I have absoloutely no tolerance. While some of what you say is true you don't have to be outright rude and vicious when telling it. Because people are much more likely to react well and listen when you go, 'Look, dumbass, I'm right and YOU'RE wrong.' That isn't going to work and since we are, in theory at least, a mature site full of adults I should even be having to deal with this crap.

Sina, you're clearly looking to flair up a fight. At least Jill's Boob is simply defending himself and putting his opinion across, although he does skirt close to some personal remarks that I didn't like much. You're just trying to cause problems. And that won't happen.

[Sina]

Sina, you have been warned before. I won't warn you again because I have absoloutely no tolerance. While some of what you say is true you don't have to be outright rude and vicious when telling it.

Maybe not, but clearly normal conversation isn't doing Rakkoon much good. He needs a verbal kick in the teeth to snap out of this trend of victimizing himself. Actually, after a number of posts back and forth, I guess I don't really like Rakkoon as a person. Maybe that comes through in my posting.

Because people are much more likely to react well and listen when you go, 'Look, dumbass, I'm right and YOU'RE wrong.' That isn't going to work and since we are, in theory at least, a mature site full of adults I should even be having to deal with this crap.

Other than the last paragraph -the trans-Jill thing- (which I edited out btw) I don't think my post was nearly as harsh as you're making it out to be. I don't really understand exactly what you personally have to deal with regarding a discussion that doesn't involve you. Not trying to be nasty I'm just genuinly curious, since I can't imagine people spamming you with complaints over this.

But since I along with others were personally targetted in this post by Rakkoon, this is my way of dealing with that. I don't like having to deal with it much either, to be honest, but when someone complains in part about me I will react in the way I see fit. I know this is your site and you can do as you please. Your house, your rules, and don't get me wrong I am grateful that there are a few of you dedicated enough to run this site so random people like me can talk about resident evil with other random people, but I honestly don't see how a "heated" discussion between Rakkoon and a few people, including myself, would give you such a hard time. He was clearly asking for some kind of response with his initial post.

Sina, you're clearly looking to flair up a fight.

The trans-Jill thing, sure, I knew exactly how Rakkoon and all the others like him would react. But that was the point. It was a joke and it wasn't to start a fight, it was to show how he dealt with even the most ridiculous Jill critisism. I thought it would be entertaining to watch, but you're right, it felt like trolling and the point wasn't important enough to me, which is why I removed it.

At least Jill's Boob is simply defending himself and putting his opinion across, although he does skirt close to some personal remarks that I didn't like much. You're just trying to cause problems. And that won't happen.

I'm really not. I didn't start the topic, I just reacted to it.

[Alexia_Ashford]

This again? For fuck sake... Sina, I've told you about this line of behaviour before, but clearly your infraction hasn't done much to calm you down. At least Jills Boob isn't making the same kind of provocative, argumentative remarks like you are. You've been warned before and like Darkmoon said, you shalln't be warned again. I'd have thought an infraction would have been warning enough. Keep doing this (flaming other members then arguing with moderators when they tell you not to), and you'll soon see where it takes you.

[News Bot]

You are negativity, pessimism and misery incarnate.

I really liked this line though.

[Sina]

This again? For fuck sake... Sina, I've told you about this line of behaviour before, but clearly your infraction hasn't done much to calm you down. At least Jills Boob isn't making the same kind of provocative, argumentative remarks like you are. You've been warned before and like Darkmoon said, you shalln't be warned again. I'd have thought an infraction would have been warning enough. Keep doing this (flaming other members then arguing with moderators when they tell you not to), and you'll soon see where it takes you.

Not to be ironic or sound like a hypocrite or anything, but I think you guys have it in for me. I really do. I don't get how what I wrote warranted such a lashout.

Anyway, my posts here were kind of superfluous after properly reading the earlier entries. Can I have a do-over and just copy/paste what Jill's Boob wrote?

[Vector]

I really liked this line though.

Me too. The writer in me got a chill when I read it.