Most Overrated Films and Games.

[Zombie Fred]

did i say that the music doesnt fit? NO i said it sucks.

The Twin snakes have some of the best music in the series, in my opinion, give or take; it actually fits the world of Snake's travel in shadow Moses, and each theme the characters followed.

and as for your aliens comment idk i dont watch aliens im not a fan of it.

Then you should consider on your remark on Twin snakes being directed by Kojima. Portable Ops, a game not even directed by Hideo Kojima, is probably one of the best in the series, its tale continuing Big boss after the events of Snake Eater, gave a huge power punch on his reason for creating outer heaven. Not a valid argument to make if I’d say so.

oh btw MG and MG2 had stealth in it too you would know that if you played it.

Comparing the first two Metal gear games to the "Solid" benchmark is slightly over estimating if I’d so, because both were under huge different influences between 1987 and 1998. I could say compare Solid with 2, or even 4. Twin Snakes did a far better job on following its universe the first created, even for its op the top values. Metal Gear Solid 2 and beyond has had strong fantasy auras around it.


As for your Splinter Cell comments, I find them invalid to compare with your take on it to Metal Gear.

Metal Gear Solid’s stealth was accessible with a more action orientated persona. I would go to say to event the extent of its design being a simple flow chart analyse of its limited options, in its 3-dimensional level.
As Vass has said above, Splinter Cell is based on Tom Clancy, which his work has been going since 1984, and that Rainbow Six, a heavy tactical shooter (stealth, action, neutralprogression; your choice), with a much more strong stealth scheme, was out in the same year as Metal Gear.

Splinter Cell evolved the stealth genre by immersing the player as a agent operative in different environments with a range of tools given to your arsenal. The penalty for being spot was high, and even at some levels a mission failure. Its design was much diverse than Solid when it come to infiltration; treading your environment, staying in the shadows or adjusting your surrounding area to stay blind around the enemy, struggling with the enemy in order to obtain Intel on your objective, exploring the room you’re in order to access further on, and keeping the threat minimal possible.

Metal Gear solid’s design was to simply move around the enemy and use pen and paper equipment on certain occasions to pass other means. I will say that its foundation had gave new air in expanding the stealth genre, but it was both more orientated on fantasy action along stealth (just have to look at the bosses in the series, and god especially 2) and with Splinter Cell is based on realism than fantasy, and it’s followed true on that. I can go into more statements on your remark but I respect that you would considering on your analyse on the information above than what you assumed

[nemesiswontdie]

oh well idc i think TTS sucks and to me thats all that matters no body elses opinions matter to me except mine. and i think that TTS sucks and the original is over all better

[Sinclair]

Metal Gear Solid’s stealth was accessible with a more action orientated persona. I would go to say to event the extent of its design being a simple flow chart analyse of its limited options, in its 3-dimensional level.
As Vass has said above, Splinter Cell is based on Tom Clancy, which his work has been going since 1984, and that Rainbow Six, a heavy tactical shooter (stealth, action, neutralprogression; your choice), with a much more strong stealth scheme, was out in the same year as Metal Gear.

Splinter Cell evolved the stealth genre by immersing the player as a agent operative in different environments with a range of tools given to your arsenal. The penalty for being spot was high, and even at some levels a mission failure. Its design was much diverse than Solid when it come to infiltration; treading your environment, staying in the shadows or adjusting your surrounding area to stay blind around the enemy, struggling with the enemy in order to obtain Intel on your objective, exploring the room you’re in order to access further on, and keeping the threat minimal possible.

Metal Gear solid’s design was to simply move around the enemy and use pen and paper equipment on certain occasions to pass other means. I will say that its foundation had gave new air in expanding the stealth genre, but it was both more orientated on fantasy action along stealth (just have to look at the bosses in the series, and god especially 2) and with Splinter Cell is based on realism than fantasy, and it’s followed true on that. I can go into more statements on your remark but I respect that you would considering on your analyse on the information above than what you assumed

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more like about how my life got flipped turned upside down?

I mean, really. Your post makes ZERO sense. Not saying your argument is invalid, but I just can't understand what you're trying to say. If you want to somehow represent intellect with big words and complicated sentences, make sure you possess said intellect first and master your own native language. Your entire post is structured like an Ethiopian straw hut hit by 90 mp/h winds. I have tried, but can't make any sense out of it.

Protip: when you ramble, read what you've written before posting. You obviously lost your train of thought halfway through, which is alright seeing as you got excited. Just pay more attention next time, as I'm sure your intended opinion had the potential of being valid.

[missvalentine]

^ I could understand Ganado's post just fine. So are you gonna actually contribute, or just slag other people off?

[Sinclair]

^ I could understand Ganado's post just fine. So are you gonna actually contribute, or just slag other people off?

I understand your need to defend your friends, and that's fine, but his post was an utter mess, and it gave me a headache. I've sent it to a couple people in hopes that they would be able to enlighten me somewhat, but to no avail. In fact, it gave them a headache as well.

I can't contribute and/or reply correctly if I can't understand what he's saying, so I'm merely hoping that next time he'll use an updated version of Babelfish. His post is enough to place even a substitute English teacher in an immediate cardiac arrest.

[Zombie Fred]

I was going into some techno-Babel there so I apologise if it doesn’t make sense to your own end, and plus I'd just woken up when I come to this topic. To put it short, Metal gear Solid’s stealth is limited by its own game design, where Splinter Cell’s stealth is more depth and deeper given the genre it is.

[Sinclair]

I was going into some techno-Babel there so I apologise if it doesn’t make sense to your own end, and plus I'd just woken up when I come to this topic. To put it short, Metal gear Solid’s stealth is limited by its own game design, where Splinter Cell’s stealth is more depth and deeper, given the genre it is being played on.

So you're trying to come across with the following message:

MGS has a limited toolbox, resulting in fewer options when it comes to player freedom. There's oftentimes one method to complete something, or perhaps two, but that's it. It's limiting itself, as far as freedom and choice goes, due to its own design.

Splinter Cell gives you a ton of freedom, due to a larger variety of methods and tools.

Thus resulting in the two being completely different, rendering the possibility of one influencing the other impossible.

[Zombie Fred]

Indeed but I tell you what though, since my above post did seem to skull fuck you on the incompetence of the message, I will make sure that when it comes to this discussion again I will check my post again to make sure it doesn’t come off from a person who doesn’t seem much concerned on the way he types, given that most people on here don’t care on the way I would rather express on the spot. But as you were particularly baffled by my relaxed punctuation, I will be a little bit more careful if you wish

EDIT: Personally on here I tend to relax, like many others on here, and don’t care about the way I express things. If you had a bee in your bonnet on the way I had expressed the above then a pleasant private message would be the best way of action.

[Alexia_Ashford]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more like about how my life got flipped turned upside down?

I mean, really. Your post makes ZERO sense. Not saying your argument is invalid, but I just can't understand what you're trying to say. If you want to somehow represent intellect with big words and complicated sentences, make sure you possess said intellect first and master your own native language. Your entire post is structured like an Ethiopian straw hut hit by 90 mp/h winds. I have tried, but can't make any sense out of it.

Protip: when you ramble, read what you've written before posting. You obviously lost your train of thought halfway through, which is alright seeing as you got excited. Just pay more attention next time, as I'm sure your intended opinion had the potential of being valid.

Your bad attitude is giving me a headache. I understood his post fine, his points were valid and it was a decent argument. This post however, contributes absolutely nothing and merely provokes people. He's a respected member on here so to sign up without introducing yourself and mocking the way a known member types, insulting his "lack of intellect" (when there was nothing wrong with it to begin with) is going to set you off in a bad stead before anyone's even given you a chance. Next time, make your post on topic or don't post at all, please. It'd be nice to see people debate a good subject without having to call eachother "peabrain" or accusing one another and being dumb and having no intellect.

I also disagree with nemesiswontdie, I don't think MGS influenced Splinter Cell at all.

[nemesiswontdie]

opinions opinions i guess

[Sinclair]

Your bad attitude is giving me a headache. I understood his post fine, his points were valid and it was a decent argument. This post however, contributes absolutely nothing and merely provokes people. He's a respected member on here so to sign up without introducing yourself and mocking the way a known member types, insulting his "lack of intellect" (when there was nothing wrong with it to begin with) is going to set you off in a bad stead before anyone's even given you a chance. Next time, make your post on topic or don't post at all, please. It'd be nice to see people debate a good subject without having to call eachother "peabrain" or accusing one another and being dumb and having no intellect.

I also disagree with nemesiswontdie, I don't think MGS influenced Splinter Cell at all.

Don't play devil's advocate, sis. His post was incoherent and made no sense if the English language is the judge. I understand you protect your loved one, and again, fine, but you can't deny facts. Give it to any school as a paper and/or essay, and the teacher will merely laugh at you before crumbling it up preventing more headaches from occurring.

I would go to say to event the extent of its design being a simple flow chart analyse of its limited options

I can go into more statements on your remark but I respect that you would considering on your analyse on the information above than what you assumed

[Alexia_Ashford]

Don't play devil's advocate, sis. His post was incoherent and made no sense if the English language is the judge. I understand you protect your loved one, and again, fine, but you can't deny facts. Give it to any school as a paper and/or essay, and the teacher will merely laugh at you before crumbling it up preventing more headaches from occurring.

I have no interest in "protecting my loved one", he is quite capable of defending himself. This forum isn't an English exam and not everyone who posts here types the same way as others. Get over it. Your post is off topic and you're baiting other members to try and get a reaction. Trolling.

This forum is a community for Resident Evil and gaming fans to share opinions, debate and discuss. If you've come here to mock people for the way they type, then you have definitely joined the wrong site.

[Mr_Zombie]

Give it to any school as a paper and/or essay, and the teacher will merely laugh at you before crumbling it up preventing more headaches from occurring.

It's a forum. Welcome to the Internet, where grammar isn't your first priority when writing posts.

If you really couldn't understand what he wrote then there's something wrong with your understanding capabilities. And even though few members have told you already, that they could easily understand what ganado have written, your only excuse is "because it's your friend and you're defending him".

[Zombie Fred]

The internet's serious business kids, Stay classy.

[DXP]

splinter cell is more realistic in stealth too mgs that's what made it feel awesome on the sneaking around in the shadows feel , gotta remember that saboteur on the c64 and spectrum was the first stealth based game before metal gear came along and rectified it, just thought of yet another game, goldeneye i don't hate it i just think people think too highly of it bit like i now have too put up with resi noobs saying re5 is the best game in the series ever! ¬_¬ please spare me....