gameplay or story? whats more important?

[Dark_Chris]

this is your option missV, but for rest of us is story in games more important than gameplay

[Vector]

I don't care how fun a game is...if the story isn't good enough to keep me interested, I won't enjoy the game nearly as much as I would if the story was awesome. Also, why is it one or the other? Why can't games have good gameplay AND story? MGS4 was like this.

Resistance 2, for example, sucked because it was all gameplay and no story. No narrative, no nothing. It was deathmatch after deathmatch against waves of Chimera, and 80% of the story unraveled through intel. That's not fun to me.

[Harry Mason]

this is your option missV, but for rest of us is story in games more important than gameplay

So you would prefer a nice QTE game to watch a story over an immersive/atmospheric game that rewards you with better gameplay...

The Sega CD died because of lack luster gameplay with its focus being more on playing movie clips.

Story alone does not make a great game, name one game with crappy gameplay but a great story and you still enjoy it to this day...

[missvalentine]

I don't care how fun a game is...if the story isn't good enough to keep me interested, I won't enjoy the game nearly as much as I would if the story was awesome. Also, why is it one or the other? Why can't games have good gameplay AND story? MGS4 was like this.

Yes in most cases story makes a game a whole lot better, but the fact remains you can still have a game without story. whereas it is impossible to have a game without gameplay.

So gameplay is the most important aspect overall, and should not be given a side seat to story, unless it's an RPG really.

So you would prefer a nice QTE game to watch a story over an immersive/atmospheric game that rewards you with better gameplay...

The Sega CD died because of lack luster gameplay with its focus being more on playing movie clips.

Story alone does not make a great game, name one game with crappy gameplay but a great story and you still enjoy it to this day...

That is exactly my point.

And a good question, what is better, and what would you play more? Rule of Rose (Bad Gameplay, Great Story) Or Battlefield 2 (Great Gameplay, Bad Story)?

[Harry Mason]

I would even say comparing a game with great gameplay and no story is no better than comparing a movie with no gameplay...

[missvalentine]

I would even say comparing a game with great gameplay and no story is no better than comparing a movie with no gameplay...

Yeah i guess so.

Anyways, i think most people in this thread would like movies over games.

The thread is titled, "what is more important, gameplay or story?" Gameplay is obviously the most important of the two, because without it you don't have a game do you. You can still have a great game with no story.

So argue as much as you want but gameplay will always be > than story will be in a video game.

Yes, even in MGS gameplay is more important than the story.

[nemesiswontdie]

ok you guys are making no since a game without a story just sucks cause its the same shit over and over and over again. it gets really boring.

and the fact that missv is wrong about mgs if it wasnt for the story it would be another boring ass game with guess what no story that focuses on gameplay

[missvalentine]

ok you guys are making no since a game without a story just sucks cause its the same shit over and over and over again. it gets really boring.

Not all the time. What games have you been playing man? Sure if you play story heavy games a lot the gameplay will be boring just on it' sown cause it's not the main part of the game.

But in most games with simple/little or no story's, the gameplay is just so fun and addictive that you never get bored. Like with Ratchet, Jak, Battlefield and Battlefront games.

I think games with no story have better gameplay than the gameplay in games that do have intricate and important story's where gameplay takes a back seat.

A game without story will still be better than a game without gameplay every time, no matter how bad it is.

Also watching the same movie over and over again gets really boring too.

and the fact that missv is wrong about mgs if it wasnt for the story it would be another boring ass game with guess what no story that focuses on gameplay

Your missing my point. Yes MGS would totally suck without a story, but it would not exist at all without gameplay.

[nemesiswontdie]

well i call bullshit for the what? the 4th time i think? idk ive lost count. a game with out a story is like this

objective #1.kill this man

BOOM your fucking done. simple as blinking.

with a story there is objectives

objective number 1.infiltrate this base and try and kill this guy and see if they have the ability to do such and such

a game with a story will still be better than a game without a story everytime,no matter how bad and truthful it is.

[missvalentine]

well i call bullshit for the what? the 4th time i think? idk ive lost count. a game with out a story is like this

objective #1.kill this man

BOOM your fucking done. simple as blinking.

with a story there is objectives

objective number 1.infiltrate this base and try and kill this guy and see if they have the ability to do such and such

a game with a story will still be better than a game without a story everytime,no matter how bad and truthful it is.

Yes, i know, but to have a story, you have to first have gameplay. And since where arguing which is more important, obviously gameplay is, since you can't even have a story if you don't have gameplay in the first place.

I know gameplay is made better when story is added to the mix, but this about which one is the most important out of the two.

[Harry Mason]

well i call bullshit for the what? the 4th time i think? idk ive lost count. a game with out a story is like this

objective #1.kill this man

BOOM your fucking done. simple as blinking.

with a story there is objectives

objective number 1.infiltrate this base and try and kill this guy and see if they have the ability to do such and such

a game with a story will still be better than a game without a story everytime,no matter how bad and truthful it is.

All games have objectives

[Darkmoon]

Well, it's pretty clear the early RE games weren't all about GamePlay. How do we know this? The game wasn't a first person shooter as origionally planned. They deliberately chose to use a clunkier control system to enhance the game's atmosphere. Now...where does atmosphere end up in a debate between story and gameplay? Damn.

As for me, it's story. Always, always story. I have to give a rats ass as to why I'm shooting things in the face or cutting them in half with a sword. I've played a number of games with control systems I found relatively unpleasant (Fahrenheit, a Final Fantasy game...any Final Fantasy game) because I was intrigued by the story, but the only game that's an exception is Resident Evil, which I played mostly for the scares. Now it is because, after all these years, I find myself giving a crap about the characters.

Ultimately I have to want to know what comes next, whether it be a book, movie or game. If I don't, if the only thing I have to look foward to is a bigger gun and bigger enemies, I'm outta here. Hence my love for Heavy Rain. The story looks amazing. The Gameplay is one long quicktime event. But I'll take it and take it gladly for that delcious candy coated story.

[nemesiswontdie]

1 word for you


SNATCHER


barely any gameplay all you do is choose a option thats it

[missvalentine]

1 word for you


SNATCHER


barely any gameplay all you do is choose a option thats it

But that is still gameplay of a sort.

If there were none, Snatcher would be an anime movie, not a game.

[Darkmoon]

There are tons of those. True, most of the ones I played were Japanese hentai games with my wife as we laughed and laughed, but...

Well, for a slightly more kid friendly example, there are the Broken Sword games, Monkey Island games, Discworld games...all point and click adventures and all ultimately awesome.