Most underrated films, games, and even TV shows

[missvalentine]

Unfortunately, a lot of that is your opinion rather than had fact.

I know, in my opinion RE3 is better. This thread is all opinions. I don't think any game is factually better than another really.

RE3 has better gameplay that RE2 - True enough. The dodge was nice. Although I found the Gun Powder system extremely pointless...who the blue hell is leaving gun powder all over the city? Where is she getting the shells for the ammo?

Well, having a flame thrower in an underground cave, or having a police station that is all locked off and that you need to go an explore to find oddly shaped keys to unlock is also weird. But it's RE so who cares. All RE game are like that.

RE3 has better graphics than RE2 - Barely. It's not something people are going to notice especially.

I actually noticed this a lot. I have it on gamecube and I find RE3 to have much much sharper and more clearer graphics than RE2 has. I'm not sure about the PS1 versions though.

RE3 has the most replay value out of all the RE games, except Outbreak. Since RE3 and only RE3 has randomly spawning enemies - Yeah...no. For all intents and purposes there are four separate scenarios in RE2. It's one of the things I loved the most. I think RE2 wins on replay value there.

I guess. But I played through RE3 more times that I played RE2 anyway, it's just a personnel opinion of mine.

RE3 has the coolest and most interesting location settings - Again, I disagree. The dead factory seemed more like something that should appear midgame. The extra street areas and the hospital were nice though.

I loved how RE3 was set out in the ruined city. I love ruined city locations. RE2 only had a tiny section out int he city. The RPD in RE2 was cool as well, but you went there in RE3 too. I liked a lot of the locations you went in RE3. Again just my personnel opinion.

RE3 has the most fun gameplay in the series - Sadly that award has to go to RE4/RE5. They may not be scary but they are nice to play. Otherwise the other games are about on par.

I disagree a lot here.

RE5's gameplay holds no appeal for me to play it at all. I can't stand it. I do like RE4's gameplay but I would rather play RE3 any day.

the 4th survivor is better than mercs mod in RE3

RE2 is longer game so it has more replay value than RE3

RPD and Umbrella lab is more cool locations than park or hospital

RE3 ending is lame

RE2 has a lot of cooler bosses than RE3

RE2 and RE3 both has same gameplay with only little diferences

RE2 gives G-virus......

you just love Jill that's all about

Mercs mode in RE3 is better than everything.

RE2 is the shortest int he series if you play just one scenario, then they make it longer, by basically making you backtrack through the entire game again from another person perspective and still call it new sections which I find stupid. I don't count that at all.

RE3 has the RPD, and the park and Raccoon Streets is better than any RE2 location IMO.

Nemesis is the best IMO.

RE3 has NE-Alpha parasites.

I love Jill. True. But, ever wonder why I like her? I like her because she stars in RE3 and Remake/RE1, my two favorite RE games. And I do love her character as well.

[Darkmoon]

I think it's the four scenarios are what win it for me. Two scenarios with two characters...hmmm, tastes like awesome. It has one of the best and most important storylines in the RE series and the best overall cast for my money. Irons is a raving mad man, Birkin is a mad but slightly tragic figure, as does Annette. Leon comes across well as a rookie cop out of his element trying to help everyone. Claire is a little off, I always felt. Sherry is good is slightly annoying. And Marvin, Kendo and Ben all make a nice supporting cast, even though I wish they had more of a part in the tale ala 1.5...although I wish a lot o things about 1.5.

[Zombie Fred]

I think it's the four scenarios are what win it for me. Two scenarios with two characters...hmmm, tastes like awesome. It has one of the best and most important storylines in the RE series and the best overall cast for my money. Irons is a raving mad man, Birkin is a mad but slightly tragic figure, as does Annette. Leon comes across well as a rookie cop out of his element trying to help everyone. Claire is a little off, I always felt. Sherry is good is slightly annoying. And Marvin, Kendo and Ben all make a nice supporting cast, even though I wish they had more of a part in the tale ala 1.5...although I wish a lot o things about 1.5.

I think that goes along with 3.5 and the beta for Resident Evil 5

[Darkmoon]

...yes. It drives my wife nuts but I've always been slightly obssesed with betas of games I really like. Even when they're pretty similar to the end product or sound worse, I still wanna know all about them and pay if at all possible. Hence the obscene sum of money I'd be willing to fork out for 1.5...

[Mr_Zombie]

It looks that Marvin, Kendo and (probably) Ben will have even less screen time in DSC than they had in RE2, but at least I hope DSC will expand on the Birkin family, espcially Annette. I hate when people see her only as a crazy women who wanders around waving G-virus vial, shooting random people and accusing them of murdering her husband :/. She needs more depth.

[kevstah2004]

And yet again Extreme Battle is forgotten about in RE2 dual shock.
RE2 has loads of replay value A/B scenarios for both Characters, separate missions for Hunk and Tofu the ability to play as Ada or Sherry during certain rooms and then added bonus of Extreme Battle to play a mission as Claire, Leon, Chris "A added surprise" or Ada ooh and last but not least alternative costumes for Claire and Leon, I mean damn how much replay value do you guys want.
The whole concept of Mercenaries was borrowed from Extreme Battle, The Mercenaries wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Extreme Battle they even reused the character selection screen.
Jill was my favorite character until her outing in RE3 with the boob tube, RE5 just made me dislike her even more
RE2 introduced you to Lickers and Mr. X it had a great storyline to carry on from RE1
with Hunk, Birkin, Annette, Kendo, Leon, Claire, Ada, Irons, Sherry, Marvin and Ben RE3 can't compete RE2's npc interaction is on par with outbreak and guess what 1.5 had even more.
Mr. X has been raped twice now with Nemesis and Ivan, Capcom loves recycling.

[Alexia_Ashford]

I liked Jill even more in her boob tube in RE3 I didn't really like her in REmake or UC, or RE5. Her RE3 model was great. Also, RE3 isn't a great deal longer than RE2. I can complete RE2 in probably an hour and a half, and I complete RE3 in two and a half hours. Only an hours difference. I think I'd rather have an additional 3 scenarios than 1 hours of extra game. RE2 is a better game.

[missvalentine]

And yet again Extreme Battle is forgotten about in RE2 dual shock.
RE2 has loads of replay value A/B scenarios for both Characters, separate missions for Hunk and Tofu the ability to play as Ada or Sherry during certain rooms and then added bonus of Extreme Battle to play a mission as Claire, Leon, Chris "A added surprise" or Ada ooh and last but not least alternative costumes for Claire and Leon, I mean damn how much replay value do you guys want.
The whole concept of Mercenaries was borrowed from Extreme Battle, The Mercenaries wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Extreme Battle they even reused the character selection screen.
Jill was my favorite character until her outing in RE3 with the boob tube, RE5 just made me dislike her even more
RE2 introduced you to Lickers and Mr. X it had a great storyline to carry on from RE1
with Hunk, Birkin, Annette, Kendo, Leon, Claire, Ada, Irons, Sherry, Marvin and Ben RE3 can't compete RE2's npc interaction is on par with outbreak and guess what 1.5 had even more.
Mr. X has been raped twice now with Nemesis and Ivan, Capcom loves recycling.

I didn't forget about EX battle mode. I have it, and have played it many times. I like RE3 mercs a lot better. Though playing as Chris with his custom pistol is pretty fun in EX battle mode though.

I don't see how Mr.X has been raped? If you mean raped like how Nemesis could face rape Mr.X anyday, then yes. But other than that no. Do you think the T-002 Tyrant was raped by the T-072 Tyrant in CVX?

You know the Saturn version of RE1 also had an EX battle mode. It was nothing new in RE2. RE3 just improved on it even more. That's what RE3 did, improved on everything present in RE1 and RE2. Yet people act like it's the worst.

I bet RE2 was fantastic back in 1998, but RE3 was fantastic back in 1999 too. But guess what, now it's 2009. RE2 and RE3 are both still fantastic games, but RE3 is even more fantastic in my opinion. I don't really care who did what first, just who did what better.

I liked Jill even more in her boob tube in RE3 I didn't really like her in REmake or UC, or RE5. Her RE3 model was great.

I am surprised for some reason at this.

I liked Jill in all her appearances.

Also, RE3 isn't a great deal longer than RE2. I can complete RE2 in probably an hour and a half, and I complete RE3 in two and a half hours. Only an hours difference. I think I'd rather have an additional 3 scenarios than 1 hours of extra game. RE2 is a better game.

I think RE3 makes up for this, with Nemesis's random appearances and the fact you have that sudden choice thing were you have to randomly choose one of either two options. And there are many of these throughout the game, which ultimately leads to even more variety between playthroughs than in RE2's 4 scenarios. There is at least up to 8 in RE3, hence the 8 epilogues. I thought that quick selection thing like say the first time you meet Nemmy you can either run from him , or fight him. Was a a great addition tot he game and gave RE3 even more re playability. Everyone seems to forget this though.

[Alexia_Ashford]

Okay, your points completely baffle me. The quick decision choices in RE3 have nothing to do with the epilogues and it only made minor story differences. Only a couple of them were even relevant to RE3. It also had Chris and Leon in it, neither of which appeared in RE3. You also seem to have completely forgotten about Mr X's random appearances and seem to be assuming RE3 is the only game to have this. Also, Mr X's appearances were the only true "random" appearances as every Nemesis appearance bar the police station encounter had the music forewarning you. Also saying RE3's quick choice decisions ultimately led to more variety in the stories than RE2 did is absolutely ridiculous, it really is. It made minor story differences. In one ending you were picked up in a helicopter. In another, you were picked up by Barry. Wow. The only real quick choice that made any sort of impact on canon was Nicholai's death. Still, doesn't give it anywhere near the amount of replayability that RE2 has.

Let me just repeat this again. RE2 had FOUR separate scenarios, with two different characters, where entirely different things happen. How is four different scenarios less replayability than a game that's a LITTLE bit longer and has a few unimportant decisions to make? Jill? >.>

Using gameplay is a bit fu-bar as well, considering games evolve naturally over time, including gameplay. RE3 is a side story and without RE2 would mean nothing at all. Gameplay was really the only thing RE3 did better than RE2 and given that it was a sequel, it's unfair on RE2 to say "it didn't do this" when it was the next in the series. I could say RE4 is better than RE3 because RE4 has far superior gameplay but every other quality didn't out-do it.

[missvalentine]

Okay, your points completely baffle me. The quick decision choices in RE3 have nothing to do with the epilogues and it only made minor story differences. Only a couple of them were even relevant to RE3. It also had Chris and Leon in it, neither of which appeared in RE3. You also seem to have completely forgotten about Mr X's random appearances and seem to be assuming RE3 is the only game to have this. Also, Mr X's appearances were the only true "random" appearances as every Nemesis appearance bar the police station encounter had the music forewarning you. Also saying RE3's quick choice decisions ultimately led to more variety in the stories than RE2 did is absolutely ridiculous, it really is. It made minor story differences. In one ending you were picked up in a helicopter. In another, you were picked up by Barry. Wow. The only real quick choice that made any sort of impact on canon was Nicholai's death. Still, doesn't give it anywhere near the amount of replayability that RE2 has.

Let me just repeat this again. RE2 had FOUR separate scenarios, with two different characters, where entirely different things happen. How is four different scenarios less replayability than a game that's a LITTLE bit longer and has a few unimportant decisions to make? Jill? >.>

I wasn't talking about story. I was talking about gameplay differences.

I said the quick decision things make each play though different than the last, thus leading to a lot of re playability because it's like different game every time.

Nothing to do with story at all. You play RE2 four times, you know everything that happens in the story and the gameplay. RE3 you can play it out more than four, and the gameplay will still be different going up on 8 times gameplay wise, 2 story wise. I prefer gameplay a lot more so RE3 has a lot more appeal to me.

RE2 has 4 scenarios, and everything in those 4 is pre set to happen. RE3 has one, but you are able to mix it around a lot depending on what you do. The story is specifically structured to allow this gameplay mechanic. Which leads to basically an almost infinite amount of scenarios when coupled with the randomly appearing enemy's thing. I don't think I have ever played the same RE3 twice, there has always been a new thing or something mixed around and unpredictable in every game I have played of it.

If I wanted story Ill play an RPG, I have plenty of those. I play RE for the gameplay and scares, and the survival aspect of it.

[Alexia_Ashford]

Might I add that the quick decisions have nothing to do with gameplay. All it does is trigger another cutscene and sometimes take you down a different route getting to a destination. Most of the time it's just an alternate cutscene. Cutscene isn't gameplay. All it does is give you the same thing over and over again, with an odd cutscene difference or a slight route difference leading to the same destination. It's not, as you put it, "an infinite amount of scenarios". That, again, is ridiculous. I think that argument is clutching straws. And like DM said, RE3 isn't the only game with randomly spawning enemies.

[missvalentine]

Might I add that the quick decisions have nothing to do with gameplay. All it does is trigger another cutscene and sometimes take you down a different route getting to a destination. Most of the time it's just an alternate cutscene. Cutscene isn't gameplay. All it does is give you the same thing over and over again, with an odd cutscene difference or a slight route difference leading to the same destination. It's not, as you put it, "an infinite amount of scenarios". That, again, is ridiculous. I think that argument is clutching straws. And like DM said, RE3 isn't the only game with randomly spawning enemies.

They set up for Nemmy's later appearances sometimes depending on what you do. And sometimes they can result in a fight with Nemmy or Grave Digger, thus gaining one of Nemmy's weapons, or evading him. It also effects your time if your making a speed run depending if you take a long safe way, or a short but dangerous way.

Anyways, it's my opinion that RE3 has the best gameplay, and gameplay is what matters most, and that's why it's my favorite.

I just don't like people acting like it sucks when it doesn't suck in any way at all.

[Alexia_Ashford]

No one ever disagreed that RE3 has the best gameplay. You didn't say "RE3 has the best gameplay", you made a huge long list of reasons as to why RE3 is superior to RE2. That's what worked people up. RE2, in general, is a much more popular game and this is reflected by the sales it had.

[Bertha]

I also love how this was supposedly a topic about underrated films, tvs shows, and games, and yet it has turned into another fap fest (some someone) over Jill Valentine and the game she starred in. Is there any reason to post anything that is actually on topic? Which by the way RE2 > RE3.

[missvalentine]

No one ever disagreed that RE3 has the best gameplay. You didn't say "RE3 has the best gameplay", you made a huge long list of reasons as to why RE3 is superior to RE2. That's what worked people up. RE2, in general, is a much more popular game and this is reflected by the sales it had.

This topic is all opinions anyway so It doesn't matter. It started when I said RE3 is underrated and unappreciated which it certainly is.

I do like RE3 better but that is not the point.

I also love how this was supposedly a topic about underrated films, tvs shows, and games, and yet it has turned into another fap fest (some someone) over Jill Valentine and the game she starred in. Is there any reason to post anything that is actually on topic? Which by the way RE2 > RE3.

Ugh...

WTF?



Where has this topic ever been a Jill Jizz fest?