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Norman Bates (Perkins) vs. Hannibal Lecter (Hopkins) vs. Joker (Ledger)
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Lecter and Joker are pretty evenly matched as far as psychotic masterminds go. Norman is just confused.
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Personally I think Hannible would win. Hes a psychological genious after all and can get inside almost any ones head. As much as i loved the joker i think he would definately loose to Hannible. I havent ever watched Psycho all of the way through but from what ive seen Bates seems to be a bit too unstable and emotional to beat Hannible. Thats my opinion any ways
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A. Think it's been said a few times, but I'd edit your second post into your first one before a mod sees it. Not to be a goody-two-shoes or anything...
B. Again, what does he have to do with the debate?
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Well, Bates would lure Lecter into his hotel. Then Lecter would taunt Bates over his mother's death, then Bates would stab Lecter while he's the sower. But, Lecter's alive (oh no!), shuts off the power, and goes Buffalo-Bill on Bates, and (omfg) eats him! Then, the Joker would blow up the place. Then he'd accidentally drive his car into that nearby lake (if you've seen Psycho, you'd know, as this is the place where Norman dumps Janet Leighs car and body, iirc). "Dammit! I knew it was the goddamn Batman! *drowns*" Then Dr. Cameron (of 4D Executor fame! lololol) would resurrect them, and it'll only continue.
In a nutshell, if you put them against each other, they'd kill each other (imo), as each their own they have much wit, violence, and psychopathic impulses. This is imo, though, so don't eat me!
EDIT: I couldn't help but think that (rather off-topic) picture of James Dean looks a lot like James Franco...
O_OLast edited by Ray; 01-12-2010, 09:16 PM.
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Oh my God, the remake was so bad it was funny. Ironic, considering Bates was played by funnyman Vince Vaughn.
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Two sequels, one prequel, one spin off, and one very bad remake from 1998 all followed the original.
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Originally posted by Cuz7ate9:( View PostI'm curious: How did Norman Bates end up in a new house in Psycho IV if he went back to the asylum in Psycho III? I never think they resolved that plot point.
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I'm curious: How did Norman Bates end up in a new house in Psycho IV if he went back to the asylum in Psycho III? I never think they resolved that plot point.
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welp, obviously they're all different in their own ways, except they all dealt with something in their early childhood.
bates is a man with multiple personalities due to the guilt for killing his own mother and suffering child abuse.
hannibal is cannibalistic serial killer that was traumatized as a child from seeing his sister killed and eaten.
and the joker is a city criminal whose only goal was to bring chaos onto Gotham City, and receiving scars by chid abuse from his father, or self-infliction to make his wife happy.
if anything, i'd say Hannibal suffered the worst during childhood.
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For me, it's a toss up between Bates and Hannibal. While Bates was tragic in a way, with the whole thing with his mum and all that, I felt sympathy for him in a way.
While Hannibal was just an outright GENIUS who also has a tragic past, but deals with it in an...interesting way. I think overall, my vote would go toooo...
Bates.
"A boy's best friend is his mother."
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