10 Things Christians and Athiests Can And Will Agree On

[Alexia_Ashford]

^ You forget, we're discussing what went on here, at least I am.

I don't care what he does via p.m., I am not the ones receiving them and you can handle that accordingly. I am saying that what he did was not the same as telling some to pray for mercy or whatever he did in his other matters. No need to bash him for THIS, in this topic, for an unrelated incident.

I am more than positive that you are bias in regards to your job - that is my belief. Why? Because I hold it to be true. (that's just a little side joke.)

It's a matter of relevance. What's so hard about keeping the issues to where they belong and addressing them independently? No need to fill the topic with (Oh I know what you did in regards to another incident - is obviously leads to off topic discussions as in this case.

Now, can we move on?

You seem to have forgotten this little gem.

I know it would feel good to jump on a believer for any small reason and ban them, but be a little more open.

Accusing me of trying to ban someone because they are a believer, as if I hate all believers. Stop being a hypocrite telling Atheists not to bash believers and tie them all with the same brush and then do exactly the same thing to me.

Unfortunately, we have to care what he does via. PM because our job is to make sure people don't ruin the forum experience for other users. What he did is not the same as telling people to pray for mercy, however he has been saying that to people via. PM so saying in this topic people will be "sorry" for not having belief is insulting to those who don't have belief and it could be percieved as further harassment to the people he has already communicated with. He posted it in this topic, so it was dealt with in this topic. Private messages are dealt with privately. I don't see any other mods/staff on this site who have had an issue to me choosing to respond to TenderRondo in here directly. I don't see why you are so concerned where we choose to address issues with a certain member unless you are trying to make a point (god knows what point). I think the point might have originally been "don't jump on believers" which I find both offensive and actually quite humourous at the same time considering you are doing exactly the same thing which Darkmoon was so angry at others for doing last night and which you posted in response to agreeing with him.

I also notice again there is no apology for accusing me of being a religion basher.

[5 Minutes]

My point? Leave out the irrelevant - address what needs to be addressed without the extra.

Apology? Were you one of the ones bashing religion? No, so why does that even concern you, or even want an apology is far beyond me.

And yes, I did say you would be happy to ban a believer. Now that is worth an apology, see my point? Cheers.

[Alexia_Ashford]

My point? Leave out the irrelevant - address what needs to be addressed without the extra.

Not being funny mate, but the last time I checked you are not a staff member here and have only been on the site 6 months. I don't see anything in the Moderator Guidelines about making sure things are "addressed without the extra" so when we look for improvements on the site or a way to how we currently moderate, I will ask a long-time respected community member and not someone who has been here for "5 Minutes".

Apology? Were you one of the ones bashing religion? No, so why does that even concern you, or even want an apology is far beyond me.

This is exactly why it concerns me. I wasn't bashing religion, I am not a religion basher, yet you quoted my post and made a personal dig at me saying I want to ban someone for just being a believer after I had already warned everyone in this topic to not make personal attacks at someone/someone's beliefs. (Also trying to make out as if I loathe everyone who holds religious beliefs, which again, Darkmoon can vouch for the fact that I don't).

And yes, I did say you would be happy to ban a believer. Cheers.

And for that, sir, you will be recieving an infraction. See above and the below quote.

Just a friendly warning to everyone in here - if this doesn't stay friendly and respectful of other people's opinions and beliefs (ie. not personal attacks against someone), I will throw points out to everyone involved. Consider this your first and only warning.

If you have any issues with this or want to dispute your infraction, please contact another moderator (Alzaire, Mr. Spencer, Darkmoon or Carnivol), and not in this topic.

Good day.

[Guest]

This is why discussions regarding religion in a forum is a no no because of people can't mature about discussion on religion and instead forces THEIR religion on other people etc etc.

My point? Leave out the irrelevant - address what needs to be addressed without the extra.

Apology? Were you one of the ones bashing religion? No, so why does that even concern you, or even want an apology is far beyond me.

And yes, I did say you would be happy to ban a believer. Now that is worth an apology, see my point? Cheers.

It seems you don't even know how to heed your own words about leaving out the irrelevant as you make things worse in your pointless debate against emma and about religion.

I would highly recommend you re-read what you posted and the reply posted on it and make sure you understand it. I laugh at self-righteousness people show on forums haha.

[Darkmoon]

Ah, sweet, sweet drama. Would I do without you? Oh, yes. I'd have a blood preasure somewhere within human norms...

Alexia has done no wrong. TenderRondo has been causing trouble all the fucking place, and he's suffering for it. It has nothing to do with his religious beliefs (Alexia has slept at my house many times, and not once tried to set fire to me or my children) and everything to do with his actions.

Equally, it's hardly shocking that she's upset at being labelled as I was yesterday. I support her decision, and will ban your ass myself if you insult her or ignore moderator instructions again.

To reinforce the point - bias on both sides of this fence is gonna be met with one mod or another being unimpressed. Everyone will respect everyone else's beliefs, or they won't post. Being unfair to a person due to there views on religion is not impressive. And too many folks are doing exactly what they say the opposite side does...labelling and bigotry is rife in this topic.

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On a side note, I would like to appologize for getting angry yesterday. Not what I said, because honestly? It was pretty much honestly how I feel. If it upset you, then I suggest you look at why it did so, since my rant was against those showing a nasty little bias. But getting angry is unprofessional, especially given that I've been trusted by three different admins to not only keep you lot in line but to do it in a calm and detached manner. While there were additional, outside influences that's no exscuse for me going over the top. I could have posted what I said in a calmer, more rational manner.

See? Even someone as awesome as me can make mistakes. I'm just extra awesome 'cos I can appologise for them.

[Trent]

Experience or no experience, your behavior so far qualifies for a warning and I can vouch for that, 5_Minutes. I have experience in moderating forums, as I was an administrator back in 2003 for BF42.com among many other communities.

It seems to me that TenderRondo should have been suspended ever since the PMs started, I think the moderators are being kind with this member.

I will however let the moderators do their job at THIA, I am only advising.

On a side note, I would like to appologize for getting angry yesterday. Not what I said, because honestly? It was pretty much honestly how I feel. If it upset you, then I suggest you look at why it did so, since my rant was against those showing a nasty little bias. But getting angry is unprofessional, especially given that I've been trusted by three different admins to not only keep you lot in line but to do it in a calm and detached manner. While there were additional, outside influences that's no exscuse for me going over the top. I could have posted what I said in a calmer, more rational manner.

See? Even someone as awesome as me can make mistakes. I'm just extra awesome 'cos I can appologise for them.

And that, fellow members, is how moderators should be

[5 Minutes]

I support her decision, and will ban your ass myself if you insult her or ignore moderator instructions again.

Fuck off fat ass. I know you molested your children you fat bitch. I will fuck the taste out of your mouth and every moderator's on this site's mouth.

Ban me bitch.

@ TRENT, YOU MAD, YOU MAD? You look like you can use a hot dicking!

Ill summon both Beasley and Saunders and watch as this site gets turned upside down.

[Alexia_Ashford]

Fuck off fat ass. I know you molested your children you fat bitch. I will fuck the taste out of your mouth and every moderator's on this site's mouth.

Ban me bitch.

@ TRENT, YOU MAD, YOU MAD? You look like you can use a hot dicking!

Ill summon both Beasley and Saunders and watch as this site gets turned upside down.

[Darkmoon]

Fuck off fat ass. I know you molested your children you fat bitch. I will fuck the taste out of your mouth and every moderator's on this site's mouth.

Ban me bitch.

@ TRENT, YOU MAD, YOU MAD? You look like you can use a hot dicking!

Ill summon both Beasley and Saunders and watch as this site gets turned upside down.

One thing atheists and religious folks can agree on - dick move, sir. Dick move.

Ah well. One last troll for the year.

[Guest]

Fuck off fat ass. I know you molested your children you fat bitch. I will fuck the taste out of your mouth and every moderator's on this site's mouth.

Ban me bitch.

@ TRENT, YOU MAD, YOU MAD? You look like you can use a hot dicking!

Ill summon both Beasley and Saunders and watch as this site gets turned upside down.

Well at least that solves the problem. You can crawl back on THAT site and there you can debate all you want.

On the side note for a '10 who joined THIA he seems to know a bit on beasley and saunders. Out of curiosity who is he or is it one of beasley/saunder multi accounts?

Anyhow that's enough out of that and maybe this religion discussion won't be over or are we finally gonna have a fair/calm discussion about religion haha.

And to be on-topic, I was a Roman Catholic but then reverted to Atheist(personal reasons) but then after 2yrs decided to discover my belief in god and became roman catholic once again and currently. I am also interested in the christian religion, story of my life haha.

[Trent]

I found out that I simply do not care about God and religion, I have no interest at all. And since my education is scientific, the choice for Atheism was simple. However, I do have a genuine interest in Deism since a lot of great minds were Deist through out history (Albert Einstein, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams etc.).

[Pikminister]

Funny how ppl assume that because you have no need/love for organized religion, that you're either an atheist or a commie.

I do believe in God. I like to think I have a spiritual side. I just don't have the need of some jackasses hitting me on the head with their version of the truth. I just try to follow the "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" golden rule. That's all I need, actually.

[Trent]

That sounds pretty much like Deism, Pikminister.

[Member_of_STARS]

What the shit happened here? I celebrate, log in shortly to fuel the religion argument and what I see is a nuclear holocaust! Whats going on?

[Mr. Spencer]

Well that was mildly entertaining.