Superman Reboot

[Smiley]

I like to round things out.

Robert Downey Jr. makes a great Sherlock Holmes btw so all is forgiven.

[Vector]

They could've cast Joe Pesci as Clark Kent and Zack Snyder would make this movie fucking amazing. Also...



plz

[Rombie]

< sarcasm >I can't wait until I see Superman beating someone up while the fight goes to hi-speed camera slow motion! < / sarcasm >

I'm still not that keen on this Reboot either. I saw rumors are continuing to circulate that this will indeed go down "The Dark Knight" route and likely be named "The Man Of Steel" or somesuch too. Bleh.

[Smiley]

< sarcasm >I can't wait until I see Superman beating someone up while the fight goes to hi-speed camera slow motion! < / sarcasm >

I'm still not that keen on this Reboot either. I saw rumors are continuing to circulate that this will indeed go down "The Dark Knight" route and likely be named "The Man Of Steel" or somesuch too. Bleh.

Say what you will about Snyder's action sequences, but at least you can see what is going on. As much as I like Nolan's Batman films he needs to work on some of his fight scenes since he deals too much in up close and quick cuts to register what is happening during them.

But last I heard the title was rumored to be "Superman: The Man of Steel" which was a working title back when Singer was still in talks to direct a follow-up to Returns. Before they opted for a reboot of course.

[Mr. Spencer]

Don't worry, Snake Plissken will always remain an American hero. Er, anti-hero.

[Rombie]

Say what you will about Snyder's action sequences, but at least you can see what is going on. As much as I like Nolan's Batman films he needs to work on some of his fight scenes since he deals too much in up close and quick cuts to register what is happening during them.

But last I heard the title was rumored to be "Superman: The Man of Steel" which was a working title back when Singer was still in talks to direct a follow-up to Returns. Before they opted for a reboot of course.

I don't disagree with you about Nolan (although I will state he got far better with the action sequences in TDK over Begins). But you still can't argue much for Snyder when you watch the alleyway brawl in Watchmen for example; which unlike the well done opening scene with The Comedian, did not have the high-speed camera work (or at least very little of it as I recall, someone please correct me if I've remembered incorrectly).

Somehow that fight made watching paint dry look more exciting than watching Nite Owl and Silk Spectre break bones, I honestly found it one of cinemas most boring fight scenes ever. Snyder apparently needs that high-speed stuff to be at his most creative - fair enough; as the opening of Watchmen, 300 and the trailer for Sucker Punch show, but yet I clearly feel Superman doesn't need that. So it's a lose-lose to me. At the end of the day I'd rather have a quick cut, close angle, fight scene if it's more true to the character than a flashy wide slow motion shot if it makes no sense for the character.

At the end of the day though I somehow have more hope for this than the Spiderman reboot... mostly because of Snyder's track record... but only a little.

[Smiley]

Fair enough, but it's just a style preference I guess. And it's based on the scene. I didn't mind how in Returns it shows Superman floating in the sky in slow-mo with his cape waving at a pace only to speed straight down to stop a bank robbery.

As far as Snyder using them in action sequences I thought it worked well in 300 and Watchmen. But that's just my opinion. You expect some sort of style from your directors. I always expect Tarantino to make a drawn out scene in one shot following a central character as he usually does.

I don't believe it would be out of character to show Superman in such "Snyder scenes" because, let's face it, if they're part of the action then the fight sequences that we have seen in the past films (which aren't that much) have been pretty tame so far behind the camera (although there were some interesting additional footage in the Donner Cut of Superman 2).

I'm pretty sure this will be more action packed for better or worse based on the feedback for Superman Returns.

[Wrathborne]

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...Hell no. Hell no to Jessica Biel as well.

Olivia Wilde could be fun though.

[Vector]

I'd really like to think Zack Snyder knows better than to cast Kristen Stewart. Anyone who's seen any of her movies has to know how awful of an actress she is. All she can do is blink her eyes really fast and look around to random spots when feeling awkward/threatened/nervous/any emotion at all. Olivia Wilde is amazing, though. I could go for that.

[Wrathborne]

Zach Snyder cast Jamie Chung and Vanessa Hudgins in his weird 'Sucker punch' film, that alone tells me this does not bode well.

[Smiley]

It's pretty irrelevant either way since people always complain about the actress chosen for a hero film. Kate Bosworth, Kirsten Dunst, Halle Berry. Hell, I've heard people get on Nolan's case about using Katie Holmes in Begins (who I thought was actually really good in the movie) and they follow her up with Maggie Gyllenhaal. And don't get me started on some of the doubters for Anne Hathaway as Catwoman. *sigh*

Perhaps we should look less at what films or shows these ladies have been in previously and focus on how they do in this movie. It happens to the 'pretty boys' as well. Heath Ledger got a lot of crap for '10 Things', 'Cassanova' and Brokeback Mountain before he proved himself as the Joker. Same for some of these ladies. I'm rooting for Hathaway just as I did for Malin Ackerman and Carla Gugino in Watchmen.

[Rombie]

I'm pretty sure this will be more action packed for better or worse based on the feedback for Superman Returns.

I agree with this too yeah, even if Snyder wasn't involved, a more action based film was likely after the limited amount in Returns. As for your other comments, it's a bit hard to judge the original Superman film's action level to what a modern audience wants these days.

We use Returns as a basis for comparison here, but even the original Superman has less action scenes than Returns actually does. (going back to the original film in fact, once you compare it to all the comic book films to come after - a large amount of the dialogue is clunky, people eat scenery, and there is that god awful poem when Lois is in the air with Superman - it's not dated very well at all).

The problem is once you've seen so many action scenes done well it makes it difficult not to expect something as good or better I guess. I don't mind if Superman ends up in a decent brawl, but I still hope something different and interesting can be done with it because the hi-speed camera stuff just wont cut it (unless I guess Superman is moving a superspeed and pumbling the crap out of someone, which he wouldn't... because he's Superman...).

[Smiley]

Depends who he's up against really. If it was another Kryptonian like Zod then their skills of speed and strength could weigh into such scenes.

[Pikminister]

That 'god-awful poem with Superman and Lois gets a lot of views on Youtube. And if anyone were to read the comments from those videos, nearly all of them loved every minute of it. So not everyone hates that sequence. Me? I don't mind it at all. It does date the movie. But that's part of the charm of watching the first movie.

When the special edition was being made, some dude wanted to take that scene out and Donner (the original director) was against that. So it stayed.

And why is anyone talking about fighting sequences? How long would a fight against Superman last? Not very long. One punch and game over.

[Agent_Wong]

And why is anyone talking about fighting sequences? How long would a fight against Superman last? Not very long. One punch and game over.

*ahem* Doomsday would like a word with you. So would Parasite, Metallo and virtually every other supervillian that stepped up to the plate with Superman. It was only after he used his brain and figured out a way to beat them did the fight only last one punch, minus Doomsday anyway.