Bin Laden is Dead, nee Gay topic

[Wrathborne]

Um... so being a minority in some way is unnatural? What about black and/or left handed people? Are they "unnatural"?

-_- You know, if you're automatically trying to link race to what I just said then you're a really sorry person.
Especially when we're just talking about sex.

[jagger916]

-_- You know, if you're automatically trying to link race to what I just said then you're a really sorry person.
Especially when we're just talking about sex.

I'm not. You said being gay is unnatural because of gays being a minority compared straight people. I gave two examples that point to that being bullshit. One of them is about race.

[WeskerIncarnate]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/violent-death-of-human-being-terrific-news-for-onc,20294/

The fact that we violently blew a hole in a guy's head and we're all cheering about it doesn't really sit right with me...

[Vector]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vio...for-onc,20294/

The fact that we violently blew a hole in a guy's head and we're all cheering about it doesn't really sit right with me...

Go back a few pages, we already discussed this.

[Wrathborne]

I'm not. You said being gay is unnatural because of gays being a minority compared straight people. I gave two examples that point to that being bullshit. One of them is about race.

You are. We were discussing sexuality, you chose to switch the topic towards race in order to null a simple point I was making. I was talking about sexuality and you were pulled the race card because you disagreed with what I was saying.

Thats a perfect example of bullshit.

[jagger916]

You are. We were discussing sexuality, you chose to switch the topic towards race in order to null a simple point I was making. I was talking about sexuality and you were pulled the race card because you disagreed with what I was saying.

Thats a perfect example of bullshit.

I didn't pull "the race card". It was an example of how stupid the notion of something being unnatural because less people are it. I also used left handed people, but you ignored that in favor of trying to distract from the fact that your original statement is so ridiculous.

[Wrathborne]

I didn't pull "the race card". It was an example of how stupid the notion of something being unnatural because less people are it. I also used left handed people, but you ignored that in favor of trying to distract from the fact that your original statement is so ridiculous.

You chose to use race first in your list of examples dude, you think I or anyone else is gonna care about the fact that you chose to use left handed people as an example?

You did pull out the race card, of all the things you could have chosen as an example you chose race. You couldn't have just chosen people who are left handed, that wasn't a serious enough example to prove your point.

This argument is already incredibly silly enough as it is so I'll stop before the mods get pissed.

[jagger916]

You chose to use race first in your list of examples dude, you think I or anyone else is gonna care about the fact that you chose to use left handed people as an example?

You did pull out the race card, of all the things you could have chosen as an example you chose race. You couldn't have just chosen people who are left handed, that wasn't a serious enough example to prove your point.

This argument is already incredibly silly enough as it is so I'll stop before the mods get pissed.

It is only as silly as you make it. But thanks for stopping.

[Jill4EverSTARS]

Stay on topic people this thread is about what occurred on Sunday not people's sexual orientation

[MeganGrass]

homosexuality is only unnatural because its a minority in contrast to heterosexuality.

^ Thats a perfect example of bullshit ^

fix'd

I don't know where you get your "facts", but they seem to be more opinion-based as opposed to being factual.

Vogue is gay, he has more influence and control than you could ever possibly hope to achieve. You want to fight about it? The courts will fall on his side. Want to call him names? He can call you a homophobe. He's got all the cards. It is a battle you have no possible hope of winning.

...and we've got a winner! Congrats to Mr. Spencer, for the utmost-epic post, ever, ever.

And as such I shall side with you as I am a born and bred fag hag. It is in my blood.

Epic. I think this single statement just "made my day".



On topic (Osama Bin Laden):

The world should celebrate the death of this madman. Celebration of the defeat of a tyrant has absolutely nothing to do with politics, religion, cultural differences, and so on, rather, it has everything to do with basic, global human rights.

Politics, religion, etc. aside, this guy was involved in countless plots of terrorism, across the globe, killing thousands in the process. He wasn't just a threat to the United States; he was a threat to humanity, and like those who came before him, Osama clearly needed to be stopped.

That said, I was plenty-happy to watch President Obama officially announce, live, that Bin Laden had finally been stopped. That was suddenly interrupted when I realized that it could lead to even-more extremist attacks across the world, declaring Osama Bin Laden to be their "martyr". And then, the fact he was hiding in Pakistan.

I'm sure there's still a lot of information and intelligence that needs to be gathered, assembled and released, but only time will tell what happens next. Let us hope for peace, even, if only for a little while.

[Jill4EverSTARS]

^ we've been at peace quite actually some time on our soil there hasn't been a major attack since 9/11 on the contrary I think the death of bin Laden will impact the peace here in the US

And with Pakistan: I'd hope this situation doesn't ruin already strained relations with them I know there are trust issues but if the situation got to the point where we become enemies I fear for the worst

[Darkmoon]

I'm not too worried about Pakistan. They'd be idiots to go, 'You violated our bodies so our self addmtitedly corrupt officials couldn't warn the guy we promised to help you find, and we certainly don't want the millions of dollars you pour in to keep our economy affloat anymore.' This is saber rattling to appease there own people. the ones who are actually upset over the border violation and the ones who were supporting Bin Laden. They'd be mad to break off ties.

Still, if they don't want that aid Britain will take it. We're loosing enough money propping up the EU right now...

Also, I don't think Osama's death is going to have a huge impact. It'll step up the focus of some terrorists cells but, let's face it - to these people we're already akin to Nazi pedophiles with AIDS. Killing off there leader isn't going to change that. Sparing Bin Laden wouldn't have changed it either. Breaking into the compound and handing the man a box of milk chocolate and a single rose would still be met with idiots rigging themselves with C4.

At least this way the guy with the smarts to pull this stuff off has those smarts spread across the wall instead. I have no idea if he was still plotting or planning these days, but he isn't going to plot or plan anything else. And that's not a bad thing.

[Alexia_Ashford]

Just need to add this in response to Wrathborne -

It always makes me laugh when people assume to know the way nature and evolution/natural selection works. People are born gay/straight, it's not someone simply saying "I fancy being with a man today". And it isn't just humans that can be gay, animals can too who have a much smaller mental capacity than us, so nature obviously has its uses for homosexuality. Just because it doesn't end up with a baby doesn't mean it's unnatural, nor the fact the Bible says its unnatural. It's basic science. If it didn't benefit us in some way, it would have died out by natural selection. It hasn't.

Also, the argument that something in the minority is unnatural is ridiculous so not even going there. Where I live, white people are in the minority so OMG, unnatural!

Homosexuality is decided at a biological level, not a conscious one. There is a lot of research going into whether there is a "gay gene" or if it's down to something else. They even injected a rat with a lot of a certain chemical, can't remember what (either oestrogen or serotonin or something), and it started to mount other rats. When it wore off, it went back to females. Truth is, natural selection has left gays in the world for a reason and now science is trying to work out what makes someone gay. Is it a gay gene? My dad's gay, I'm not, but it may explain my fag hag-ism.



Dunno what gay people you know but I know a lot and only one of them is an attention seeker. I know a lot more straight people who are. Generalising a whole group of people like that makes you seem very ignorant and small minded.

[Jill4EverSTARS]

@Darkmoon even if it riles up the different cells it's still more than what we had the past few years. It's like be honest how many of us worried about bin Laden the past few years? Not many, he disappeared from our minds and this just might re-ignite things. Also the smarts of the group is still alive LOL Zawahiri is the brains of the operation bin Laden was the charismatic face

[Mr. Spencer]

It always makes me laugh when people assume to know the way nature and evolution/natural selection works. People are born gay/straight, it's not someone simply saying "I fancy being with a man today". And it isn't just humans that can be gay, animals can too who have a much smaller mental capacity than us, so nature obviously has its uses for homosexuality. Just because it doesn't end up with a baby doesn't mean it's unnatural, nor the fact the Bible says its unnatural. It's basic science. If it didn't benefit us in some way, it would have died out by natural selection. It hasn't.

Natural selection makes the gays stronger and better!

Some quote I read once, "If God didn't like gays, why does he keep making them?"

But seriously, from a sociopolitical standpoint you're fucked. As a white, heterosexual male you have no credibility or influence in modern society. That's it, lay down. Go and lay down.