Marriages - a male perspective

[Mr. Spencer]

omg what has become of this thread? Are we all just dancing on Oskar's grave?

[Canas Renvall]

And this thread has reached a golden age.

[Darkmoon]

It may as well serve some purpose in it's final days. Bar MoS, whom I doubt agrees with all of Oskar's views, only those on marriage (I really hope he doesn't agree with his women deserve rape if they're not dressed properly theory) it seems to be pretty much a troll thread to every one else.

[Wrathborne]

I always imagined Oskars grave would be in an outhouse.

[Member_of_STARS]

It may as well serve some purpose in it's final days. Bar MoS, whom I doubt agrees with all of Oskar's views, only those on marriage (I really hope he doesn't agree with his women deserve rape if they're not dressed properly theory) it seems to be pretty much a troll thread to every one else.

A lot of it gets distorted, though. For example, he wasn't talking about having sex with kids, or how kids are sexy, or how or if anyone should have sex with kids (I've used "Kids" and "sex" in the same sentence enough times to make some people's heads implode), he was aware of the delicate nature of the subject and it was an interesting discussion. I especially liked the discussion regarding kids age and sexuality, as kids may do some crazy stuff, but it's the intent and instincts which set them apart from each other. They may do the same things at the age of 6 and 16, but these are completely different because of what they are driven by. (curiosity, mimicking, et cetera)

However, here, in this thread, people are already distorting it into somesort of a child molesting case. "I don't want to see it!" doesn't speak of openmindedness, it actually speaks of the direct opposite.

"Women get raped because of the way they dress" is stupid, but I didn't see it, so I hope you too haven't changed it around a bit. I know he talked about women not looking good past a certain age and that they become less attractive. I don't necessarily think he was being sexist, because he did have a point, men and women age differently, and they become attractive in different ways depending on their age. He was selfish in that regard.

All in all, I think he touched a lot of interesting topics, and he was too agressive and defensive when people disagreed with him. He didn't fit in. That's it. You can use the "he was a sexist childmolester" excuse all day, but that's not why he was banned.

And keep in mind, I'm not on a crusade to "right some wrongs", I find this case interesting, a lot of people too narrowminded, and a guy who probably didn't want to stay, but to get a lot of stuff off his chest as considering the topics, I doubt a lot of people would join him in such conversations in his immediate surroundings.

[Alexia_Ashford]

"Women get raped because of the way they dress" is stupid, but I didn't see it, so I hope you too haven't changed it around a bit.

Enjoy some oskar-det quotes, then.

It's difficult with rape too, because some women wants to be raped. But then they use their legal rights to get money from the rapist.

sometimes fantazise about killing my boss because he's a jerk. Of course I would never do it IRL BUT that's because I'm aware of the consequenses.

When asked if that meant he'd murder in cold blood:

Yes, because it's my instincts and I couldn't her less about that shithead. But my life would be ruined if I did.

I believe the amount of rape would go down if women stopped dressing like sluts.

But maybe they prefer their fantasy, ideal world where you can dress however you want without taking any consequenses.

It's sad, because they're just making it worse form themselves in the end.

Hmm... that's an interesting viewpoint. Let me ask you:

What do you think of people who fantazies about raping children, but then tell you they would never do it IRL? What do you think about such people?

If I see a short skirt on an attractive woman, I think "OK, that women know she's sexy and likes to show it off".

Rape has always been part of humanity, but lately when women dress like skanks it doesn't make things any better. It's like asking for trouble.

Why is that so fucking hard to understand for women? They know what they're doing, it's like they think a debate can stop rape. That's ridicolous.

I don't agree. While I would never do such I thing, women have to understand what they're doing when they walk out in a miniskirt and thong.

A man who rapes is to blame, always, BUT the woman isn't the innocent know-nothing object some people make her out to be. If people think you can stop rape with harsher punishment and information to school students they're dead wrong.

Rape will continue as long as men can't control their sexual desires, and women who go out in town wearing next to nothing, sending signals (that they're WELL aware about) that "look at the sexy me". You can call that wrong all you want, it won't change facts.

There is rape on older people too, I know, but that's a minority. If women want to minimize the risk of being raped, they shouldn't put on clothes that screams sex appeal. It's just for their own good.

If I walk around bare chested, YES, I'm aware of what signals I send out to the opposite sex. If women could rape men, I would think the same way. We're responsible for what we're wearing and how it's conceived by other people around us. A man who rape is a bad person, but a woman who takes no responsibilty in her way of dressing ALSO is a bad person.

When women walk around in mini skirts, they are WELL AWARE of what they're doing, but they want to eat the cake and keeping it at the same time.

Plus, many women actually have fantazies about being raped:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19085605

So it's not completely unnatural either.

It's a difference but it's the same reason. You send clear signals depending on what you're wearing. The problem with some women is that they both want to keep the cake and eating it at the same time. They want to feel sexy and be appreciated for it BUT only by the (for them) "right" people.

I don't blame a woman for being raped, but she also has some responsibility. You can't walk around naked in town and say "oh yeah I can wear whatever I want, don't touch me". It just doesn't work that way.

Men should be able to control themselves, but the more sexy signals the woman send, the bigger chance is that someone will lose control and grab her butt or something. I think it's extremely unfair to blame 100 % of this on men.

[Vogue_Dirge]

Maybe if Oskar wanted to get somethings off his chest, he should take a trip to Saudi Arabia where I'm sure more men share his opinions.

[Wrathborne]

Maybe if Oskar wanted to get somethings off his chest, he should take a trip to Saudi Arabia where I'm sure more men share his opinions.

He'd be dead in a week.

[Trent]

Not really, believe it or not, they would love him down there. That's how absurd it is down there.

[Wrathborne]

Oh I KNOW its that absurd down there, but I still think they'd skin his ass in a week.

[Member_of_STARS]

Enjoy some oskar-det quotes, then.

He seems to be misinformed, rather than sexist. It even makes sense in some way that dressing in a certain manner invites trouble from people who are less than capable of keeping their urges under control. Until stats show that majority of rapists know their victim.

When asked if that meant he'd murder in cold blood:

I saw that, and you can't use that as an argument for anything. There's a lot of things I would do which are illegal or considered immoral by the majority.

And you don't have to move to Saudi Arabia to be accepted for having some of those moral guidelines. I've seen our own overly traditional and conservative people say the same thing about clothing.

[Alexia_Ashford]

He is a sexist. He said himself that he likes to control women, and he has a relationship with a 3DS game because he can just "switch her off" when he gets bored. In every post he made, he spoke of women as if they were not equal to him. What is your definition of "sexism" then, Vass?

[Vogue_Dirge]

He seems to be misinformed, rather than sexist. It even makes sense in some way that dressing in a certain manner invites trouble from people who are less than capable of keeping their urges under control. Until stats show that majority of rapists know their victim.



I saw that, and you can't use that as an argument for anything. There's a lot of things I would do which are illegal or considered immoral by the majority.

And you don't have to move to Saudi Arabia to be accepted for having some of those moral guidelines. I've seen our own overly traditional and conservative people say the same thing about clothing.

Except rape is hardly ever about the sex act itself. It's about power and control. And misinformed is a form of ignorance, and sexism and ignorance go hand in hand, so he's just bad across the board there.

And the Saudi Arabia comment was an extreme exaggeration, seeing as how they actually have laws instated that say if a woman is raped, it's her fault for being a whore. Not to mention they have laws set up for female circumcision, among others. My point was, it's a country that has very harsh laws in regards to women, and Oskar's opinions seem to go right along their lines.

[Inferno04]

You know the whole thing I saw about Oskar was....not just a sexist or mentally unstable, but I just saw a butthurt guy. Seriously. Like he got rejected by girls in school so now he hates all women and loves his virtual 3DS girlfriend.

[Wrathborne]

You know the whole thing I saw about Oskar was....not just a sexist or mentally unstable, but I just saw a butthurt guy. Seriously. Like he got rejected by girls in school so now he hates all women and loves his virtual 3DS girlfriend.

Maybe hes really just in the closet?...Not that the gay community needs someone likes this.