Out of Ideas Marvel reboots spiderman comics...

[Wrathborne]

Howard Johnson is right!

[nemesiswontdie]

Yes, I know. Still lacks Deadpool. Good Deadpool, anyway.

I am proud.

[I_Am_Nemesis]

woah, woah! wait a minute.... Peter Parker dies? that just sucks and I dont even read comic books.

[Wrathborne]

Marvels Ultimate universe where characters get new back stories and die for good 20 issues later...doesnt sound so daring an idea once you put it in perspective.

[valentinesdead?]

I think this pretty much shows the utter genius of how the Ultimate Marvel line goes about killing its characters. . .

Spoiler:

show spoiler

Yeah, not a fan. Not a fan at all.

[Inferno04]

Indeed, nobody likes One More Day/Brand New Day/One Moment in Time. Joe Quesada is a hack who put his daughter's mary-sue self insert in as Peter's next love interest after that whole clusterfuck.

[Wrathborne]

...Why do you know this!?O.o

[valentinesdead?]

Indeed, nobody likes One More Day/Brand New Day/One Moment in Time. Joe Quesada is a hack who put his daughter's mary-sue self insert in as Peter's next love interest after that whole clusterfuck.

I saw a review of One Moment in Time(which was nothing more than pure Mary Jane character assassination). But what's this about Peter's new love interest being an imaginary form of Quesada's daughter? That sounds rather. . .interesting. Care to elaborate? I haven't really been keeping up though. I think the last one I bothered reading was issue #600(which was actually pretty decent) and #601(following Mary Jane's re-debut).

And everyone thought Spider-Man couldn't get worse than the clone saga. . .

[Mr. Spencer]

Don't worry everyone, there's always at least one white character we can depend on:

[Inferno04]

I saw a review of One Moment in Time(which was nothing more than pure Mary Jane character assassination). But what's this about Peter's new love interest being an imaginary form of Quesada's daughter? That sounds rather. . .interesting. Care to elaborate? I haven't really been keeping up though. I think the last one I bothered reading was issue #600(which was actually pretty decent) and #601(following Mary Jane's re-debut).

And everyone thought Spider-Man couldn't get worse than the clone saga. . .

Carlie Cooper shares the name of Joe Quesada's daughter, and is very much a Mary-Sue. Everyone thinks she's so perfect and is perfect for Peter, she's so smart and nerdy, which means she's better for Peter than MJ apparently. :/ NO ONE likes her, yet aggrivatingly enough, in the special issue about Spiderman's lovers, on the cover was MJ, Gwen, Felicia, and...Carlie. One of these things is not like the other.

[Mr. Spencer]

See, it sounds to me as though this Spiderman's defining characteristic is the fact that he is mixed race. Which is retarded. Look at War Machine, the fact that he is black isn't what defines him, it's the fact that he's a loyal but conscientious soldier who believes in justice. I mean he originally replaced Stark as Iron Man, though that was only because Stark was battling alcoholism, but he eventually became his own character who is just as much a badass as Iron Man.

Not because he was black, but because he was a good man.

[Wrathborne]

Mixed race= monies apparently :/

[Inferno04]

Mixed race= monies apparently :/

It's politically correct pandering, and does next to nothing for equality.

Writing a character to be a specific race, defining them for it only makes for a terrible cardboard cutout, not an actual character. What Spencer said is absolutely right, look at John Stewart as well. He's a character first, not just 'Hey a black guy hero!'

Skip to 6:20 in this review to see exactly what I mean. Writing race before character is bad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbexr...eature=related This goes for anything, not just race. Writing a character as some kind of social 'representation' is always a recipe for failure. I don't get why representations exist. No Disney princess ever fit my niche and I LOVE Disney. It just doesn't bother me, I don't get why people get so up in arms about a character not being exactly like them.

[Wrathborne]

I I don't get why people get so up in arms about a character not being exactly like them.

Because then they dont feel like they're noticed or 'important'.

[Darkmoon]

It's doubly bizarre given the shitfest Marvel kicked up when someone suggested an Avengers team (not the main Avengers team, but one of the offshoot ones) that was made up mostly or entirely of non-white characters. The editor who rejected the plan claimed it would be putting an 'agenda' into the comics.

I haven't read anything about the new kid, so I have no idea how well they're writing him. But such is life.