Prometheus

[aris13]

Empire review: 3/5 stars

Buffeted by a lack of suspense, threadbare characters, and a very poor script, the stunning visuals, gloopy madness, and sterling Fassbenderiness can’t prevent Prometheus feeling like Alien’s poor relation.

[Wrathborne]

Yeah, I agree with Dracarys on this one too. I still enjoyed the film though. I just wish they had shot the Shatner cameo. That would have fit perfectly.

That cameo would have been gold, it was a really well written bit.

[Smiley]

Quite possibly not. As I understand it's the owner, not the creator, who decides...although of course many fans will take the creator's word as W.O.G regardless of what the owner says.

So Mikami could say RE5 is non-cannon, but Capcom would point and laugh. Fans would be divided.

In situations like these you generally can only look at it one of two ways:

How a creator's work ends and how a studio's work ends.

Ever see any direct to DVD Disney sequel or 'American Pie' spin off? How about sequels to Jim Carrey films that lack Jim Carrey?

I use this as my basis for such franchises as Terminator. That's not to say that I don't enjoy later Terminator sequels after Cameron, but they're studio films pushing to continue it further each step of the way. Perhaps the best thing Scott could do here was distance his "alien" prequel and make Prometheus stand on its own ground despite being in the same "world".

[Pikminister]

The French have never had anything positive to say about a British person, so their opinions are invalid.

There was a poll conducted by YouGov, that asked over 4,000 French and British citizens about the most common traits each other has. The only major failing that that some Brits who were polled said the French have is "getting anything done in August." The French weren't so kind. Many said a typical British man is an old pensioner who rides around on a scooter and eats processed cheese. Ouch!

The French like to trash talk.

EDIT: Just read some US/UK reviews... mostly positive. And most of the positive ones come from the UK. Not sure if they're just gushing at it because it's Ridley Scott. I hope that's not it.

No negative reviews so far.

[Mr. Spencer]

In four minutes, you and everyone else will be dead and I'll be in a paradise.

A place where the RE movies don't exist, a place where I write the canon.

[TheBatMan]

The French have never had anything positive to say about a British person, so their opinions are invalid.



Actually I am familiar with history and if I'm not mistaken, you're dead.

I thought you were going for the launcher?

[Mr. Spencer]

The French have never had anything positive to say about a British person, so their opinions are invalid.

It was... fun. Oh my.

Actually I am familiar with history and if I'm not mistaken, you're dead.

[aris13]

So apparently a bunch of French critics saw Prometheus. Their reactions are mixed.

Le truc cool a la projo de #prometheus, c'est que j'étais installé tout prêt de Brian de Palma
The cool thing is the # projo of prometheus is that I was all ready installed by Brian de Palma

https://twitter.com/cineshowFR/statu...08535786536961

#Prometheus Enfin un grand film de science-fiction, le premier depuis un certain temps (Moon? District 9?)"
Prometheus Finally a great science fiction film, the first for some time (Moon? District 9?) "

https://twitter.com/#!/CyrilSauvageot

En terme de pure SF - esthétique, inventivité, références aux classiques du genre - #Prometheus est une vraie réussite.
In terms of pure SF - aesthetic inventiveness, references to the classics - # Prometheus is a real success.

https://twitter.com/#!/CyrilSauvageot

Beaucoup de sentiments mitigés a la sortie de #prometheus . Dont moi ...
A lot of mixed feelings at the output of # prometheus. Including me ...

https://twitter.com/cineshowFR/statu...04376609832961

Promotheus juste excellent critique demain
Promotheus just excellent critic tomorrow

https://twitter.com/kccinemacoms/sta...02706312163328

ben... Visuellement top mais niveau histoire, c'est TRÈS mal traité ?#prometheus?
ben ... Top level visually but story is VERY badly treated: (? # Prometheus?

https://twitter.com/celinecrespin/st...08628363214849

Bon... Très partagée à la sortie de ?#prometheus? (suis pas la seule)... La critique ne va pas être simple à écrire :/ cc
Well ... Very divided on leaving? # Prometheus? (am not the only) ... Criticism will not be easy to write :/ cc

https://twitter.com/celinecrespin/st...04130689400833

#Prometheus? : long et chiant, avec tous les poncifs de la SF dont un scénario ultra-attendu et aucun effort de crédibilité. Grosse déception
Prometheus ?: long and boring, with all the clichés of science fiction scenario in which an ultra-awaited effort and credibility. big disappointment

https://twitter.com/LinternauteCine/...05123065937920

[TheBatMan]

Yeah, I agree with Dracarys on this one too. I still enjoyed the film though. I just wish they had shot the Shatner cameo. That would have fit perfectly. They could also have thrown in a little Easter egg:
Young Kirk: Got any advice for the future?
Spock Prime: Stay away from the Enterprise B.

It was... fun. Oh my.

[Rick Hunter]

Thats a weird attitude to have. It's almost as if you've based your opinion on a film only for the basis of getting back at someone. If the film was the best thing possible then, what would you have said in reply? Silly comments.

Maybe I would have said I liked it instead? What's your point?

[Mr. Spencer]

As a die-hard Trekkie, I have to say that Dracarys is right on this one. All her facts check out.

Actually, what about "Parallels" where Worf ends up in a different alternate reality along with seeing multiple realities?

No, I won't go back to THIA! I WON'T!



Though I think that was caused by a subspace anomaly.

[Wrathborne]

Thus Star Trek 11 which starts by having events in the canon future, time traveling back in history and changing events is huge ways alters the future timeline, which covers TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager, as well as movies 1-10. If he had just gone and made an entirely new universe he could have claimed it an alternate universe and everything been fine, but no, he had to base it on a future in the main universe so he could destroy it instead.

Hes not destroying anything, hes expanding the universe Dracarys ;)

[Dracarys]

He made an alternate universe that allowed him to do so, without affecting the original cannon.

Star Trek rules of time-travel voids that excuse.

In Trek if you travel back in time and change something you do not create an alternate reality, you create an altered reality.

Example of this, the TNG episode 'Yesterday's Enterprise'. The Universe is fine and dandy, but then a temporal rift appears and the Enterprise C that was destroyed defending Klingons 20 years prior emerges. The Enterprise C was plucked from the past and so never defended the Klingons, the moment it traveled through the temporal rift it caused the reality of the TNG universe to change, becoming an altered reality, not alternate. Guinan can sense the changes, something that would not exist if it was an alternate reality. At the end of the episode the ENterprise C returns to the past where it can defend the Klingons, changing the future back to how it was, altering reality, not creating another altnernate (third) universe.

Another example, the movie First Contact, in 'present' time the Enterprise is chasing a Borg Sphere to Earth, the Borg Sphere travels back in time, this immediatly has an effect on the universe that the Enterprise is in, Earth appears assimulated from here the Borg did it in the past, the only reason the Enterprise can witness this is that the time travel from the BOrg caught the Enterprise in its temporal wake, the Enteprrise follows the Borg through to the past, stops them from altering the timeline, returns to a future where the changes the borg made did not happen.

In the Enteprise episode 'Shockwave' near the end Archer is pulled forward several centuries, because he was removed from the timeline though the future he travels to changes from before he was pulled forward in time, his being absent altered the timeline, is only when he is able to return that it is restored.

From TOS we have 'City on the Edge of FOrever' where McCoy travels back in time and alters the future timeline, the few left in the future in the presence of an entity know as the Guardian of forever are the only ones left, the Enteprrise is gone, the Guardian tells them history was altered. It gets fix and altered back again.

There are many more examples, it is always like this, altered realities/timelines, not alternate. Alternate realities exist in Trek such as the mirror/dark universe, but they cannot be created from time travel.

Thus Star Trek 11 which starts by having events in the canon future, time traveling back in history and changing events is huge ways alters the future timeline, which covers TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager, as well as movies 1-10. If he had just gone and made an entirely new universe he could have claimed it an alternate universe and everything been fine, but no, he had to base it on a future in the main universe so he could destroy it instead.

[Wrathborne]

I wasn't sure if you were talking to me or not, through my dyslexic eyes... I get confused sometimes...in my restless dreams, I see that town..."Siltn Hlil".

[Rombie]

Wrath - Just making sure you are aware (I read it as if you did, but then had some self doubt about it), I was replying to Rick's weird response and not yours - it was just three more responses were made while I was writing mine. I totally agree with the reasons you noted in your response to me.