Guys I would like to know which of these games would a classic RE fan like

[aris13]

Deep Fear is a BIO-clone and its writer later worked with Tokuro Fujiwara (the real creator of BIOHAZARD, Mikami's boss and mentor) on creating Extermination, which is another pretty good game that Mikami took inspiration from for BH4.

He advised Mikami to make a sweet home type of horror game. That's it.

[News Bot]

He advised Mikami to make a sweet home type of horror game. That's it.

Wrong actually, he was quite active during its development. He also decided on the mansion and zombies, for example.

In comparison to the rest of his team, Mikami had almost nothing to do with anything people associate with BIO. Which is one reason why they were much better able to capture horror atmospheres in their own games, while Mikami continued to ride on the work of his new planners (namely Shibata).

[aris13]

Wrong actually, he was quite active during its development. He also decided on the mansion and zombies, for example.

Link?

And even if he came up with the premise it's a little contrived to call him the creator. It's like saying that Kojima made Lords Of Shadow because he gave some tips to Mercury Steam.

Mikami had almost nothing to do with anything people associate with BIO.

Towards the end he certainly lost interest hence the swift from horror to action but still his director credits (bio, rebith, dinocrisis) and his upcoming horror game with his new studio place him as a prominent figure in the survival horror genre.

Which is one reason why they were much better able to capture horror atmospheres in their own games, while Mikami continued to ride on the work of his new planners (namely Shibata).

You have to name some designers/games here other than Shibata, that's because his horror game was never completed although it looked promising.

[Kegluneq]

In comparison to the rest of his team, Mikami had almost nothing to do with anything people associate with BIO. Which is one reason why they were much better able to capture horror atmospheres in their own games, while Mikami continued to ride on the work of his new planners (namely Shibata).

Speaking of, what was Shibata's involvement in the BioHazard series before directing BioHazard 4 FOG/HOOKMAN? I'd like to know how he contributed to the series.

[News Bot]

http://www.glitterberri.com/developer-interviews/tokuro-fujiwara/

So he ordered for its creation, devised the setting and basic gameplay system, made the most critical decisions in the game's design, but is still not the creator? He didn't offer advice. He developed it. Mikami on the other hand did very little, and I've yet to see any evidence to the contrary. He seems to have spent more time blaming others when criticized rather than actually over-seeing things.

All of Mikami's director credits are virtually meaningless as he didn't actually do much with them. Unlike the likes of Hideo Kojima, he was not very involved. Kojima devises the entire game plan and writes the scenario. Mikami does neither. The plan of BIO1 was handled by Kenichi Iwao, Hideki Kamiya, Hiroki Katoh and several others. The plan of Dino Crisis was handled by Shu Takumi, Hiroyuki Kobayashi and others. Rebirth? Hiroshi Shibata, Nishikawa and others.

Speaking of, what was Shibata's involvement in the BioHazard series before directing BioHazard 4 FOG/HOOKMAN? I'd like to know how he contributed to the series.

Planner for Wesker's Report, BH1 remake, BH4 and one of the chiefs behind background creation in BH3. Outside of the series, he was central to Okami (lead planner) and Bayonetta (lead game designer).

[Kegluneq]

Planner for Wesker's Report, BH1 remake, BH4 and one of the chiefs behind background creation in BH3. Outside of the series, he was central to Okami (lead planner) and Bayonetta (lead game designer).

I see. He has done far more than I thought. Thank you.

Do you think the gameplay design of BioHazard 4 FOG/HOOKMAN would be reminiscent of BioHazard Rebirth, only with a new camera?

[News Bot]

Probably. Kawamura was also a planner on Fog/Hookman and it's often hard to tell whose influence is who's without being told exactly what they did, although Kawamura seemed to focus more on how to design the horror rather than the game itself, which was probably Shibata's territory.

I still find Mikami's pretentious sunglasses appearance at E3 amusing, proclaiming that development of Fog/Hookman was going smoothly even though it was anything but. The game ran into problems quite quickly and very little of it was actually made even though they had the basic gameplay design.

[Kegluneq]

You seem to know a lot about the game's development. I'd like to ask you something.

Which one of them do you think that was more completed before being scrapped? BioHazard 4 Devil May Cry Vers. or Fog/Hookman?

[News Bot]

You seem to know a lot about the game's development. I'd like to ask you something.

Which one of them do you think that was more completed before being scrapped? BioHazard 4 Devil May Cry Vers. or Fog/Hookman?

It's easily Devil May Cry. Not much was even changed when making it into a new game. All of the enemies, characters and stages were the exact same. Kamiya only altered the plot with minor changes elsewhere, such as slightly changing some enemies to have a more "demonic" look to fit with the new setting.

[Kegluneq]

So the power of Lord's Spencer G transformation was the equivalent to the Underworld's ruler? Fucking badass.

How much of BioHazard 4 FOG/HOOKMAN do you think was recycled in the final product?

[yurieu]

im afraid to turn this thread in another 3.5 thread, but looking at the RE4 DMC version i can only figure it would be a crazy zombie beat'em up.

[Kegluneq]

im afraid to turn this thread in another 3.5 thread, but looking at the RE4 DMC version i can only figure it would be a crazy zombie beat'em up.

No beat'em up. No swords in it.

[Vixtro]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Blue Stinger on the Dreamcast yet, and "inb4" someone says because the game is total shyte, I'll say my piece.

Blue Stinger is not a particularly well made game from a technical stand point, the textures are bland, the 3D models are quite horrible for even Dreamcast standards at the time, and the animations are a tad shoddy at best. Besides all that though, the cheesy dialogue, the bizarre otherworldly story, the AMAZING musical score (seriously still one of the best musical scores I've ever heard in a game to this day), and the gameplay that is just downright fun! At the end of the day, gameplay is really all that matters.

If you can break through gaming barriers set up by the usual standards, you just might be able to see Blue Stinger as I do, a bloody gem of a game and still one of my personal favourites that only grows on me as I get older.

The original Japanese version has fixed camera angles that pan depending where the player moves, just like CODE: Veronica. So if you want something similar to Resident Evil, go with that. I personally prefer the American/European version though, they opted to change the camera to an over the shoulder style which really just works better for this game considering the controls are not 'tanked' like the original RE's.

[The_15th]

Countdown vampires was so ugly, I couldn't play much. What was fun was the hidden elimination game on disc 2, or something. It's kind of like the 4th survivor game.

Oh, and the game actually has puzzles, something Resident Evil never had. Replace gold emblem with wood emblem? Puzzle?

"You cannot put the diamond shaped key into the diamond shaped keyhole because you haven't read the right file yet"

[Guest]

I know you asked about old school games, but another game to look at is Extermination for the PS2. It's a really old game and not many people know about it, it's a survival horror game but is a 3rd person shooter on the PS2 like RE4 years before Resident Evil is what it is today. It doesn't hold up as well as some other games but it's quite under rated and was a great survival horror game back in the day. It's like a mixture of The Thing and modern day Resident Evil, it's worth checking out.