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  • #46
    Originally posted by Pikminister View Post
    Eh, expectations... I know opinions and how they're hard to deal with and everything, but some actually want to see a reboot take place with RE7.
    I think you misinterpreted what I said. I wasn't ragging on people who want a reboot--I was simply pointing out, alongside Sly, that this thread was meant to discuss RE7 without thinking in terms of a reboot. Yes, of course the reboot is going to be brought up, but there is no reason to turn it into an entire debate about it, you know? I'm perfectly fine with people wanting a reboot. It may not be what I want, but I can certainly understand why some would.

    Originally posted by Pikminister View Post
    In my case, I don't care about the characters or plotlines. If Capcom wants to keep milking the old characters and the Umbrella/Neo-Umbrella plot, they can go right ahead with that. But if they want to do away with that and start anew... I'm ok with that too.
    I'm curious what they intend to do with Jake, since it's obvious RE6 will not be the first and final time we will see him... He is likely to encounter Alex Wesker somewhere along the way, which could be interesting, but I am hesitant to accept Jake again, because there's so much about his character that is painfully generic and sloppy.

    I'd also really like to see them finally wrap up Ada's storyline. RE6 was such a perfect opportunity, yet they seemed to have wasted their time on the Carla plot. I don't feel like they're quite done with Leon, especially since it'd only make sense to have him included in the wrapping up of Ada's story.

    I think a Leon/Jake/Sherry/Claire story would work well in RE7, with Ada involved, but I know Claire's role in the series has changed, so I still debate whether she'll ever show up in a game again. But, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, a Claire/Sherry reunion is desperately needed.

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    • #47
      RE7 as a prequel / midquel would be A-OK with me!

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      • #48
        Uh, this is what next RE should have for being a great RE:

        1) More laberynthic and complex, non linear levels. Possibility of take different routes and/or different ways to do things.
        2) No instructions on what to do and where to go all the time, no GPS indicators.
        3) More elaborated puzzles, more exploration, more suspense, cut shooting moments from last games to about half or third.
        4) Shortage of ammo, forcing us to decide if kill, run or hide depending on the situation, no ammo or rewards from enemy killing.
        5) Great designed plot and story with connections to previous chapters from the franchise.
        6) Intensting game progression with well designed and memorable moments, like most of REs have, and an epic ending too.
        7) Possibility of get at least two different endings depending on the way we played and desicions we take.
        8) No more viruses and no more organizations for now, work on what we have instead of creating new elements and leaving opened and unfinished plot lines.
        9) Story with different chapters alternating between two or three single characters.
        10) Melees only for getting free from enemies, no free destructive melees that cause more damage than a bullet.
        11) New main characters, no characters for fan service.
        12) No more Mercenaries, sick tired of Mercenaries, bring up new ideas.

        But it`s just my point of view, not what Capcom is going to do.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by News Bot View Post
          I've noticed no less people caring about the series storyline than when I started. If anything, the interest has only grown. Don't let that get in the way, though.
          I stopped caring about the series storyline after 5, so did Darkmoon and lots of others here.
          They haven't come up with any real concepts in the main series that have gripped me and even though 6 looked interesting to a point when we first had the announcement trailers, I knew the game wasn't going to be for me.

          I had hoped that it would have, but it was just a fuck awful clumsy experience(with a few new features I DID enjoy).

          This new story...was fuck awful. It wasn't what anyone really wanted. I know some folks here on the forum had a blast with it, and thats fine, but for the rest of us, no. Fuck awful story, bad characters, and the fact that they used both male protagonists from game 1 and 2 as well as finally giving us Sherry Birkin and somehow managed to waste this opportunity completely, is just painful.

          There is no series story anymore I say. Initially it was about characters caught in the middle of an outbreak, then it was about characters trying to stop an outbreak, until now its characters trying to stop a GLOBAL outbreak.

          Sooner or later the series was going to head into wars with humans vs BOWs, but they way everything has been handled so far is about as silly and contrived as Michael Bay would have come up with.

          The only story elements left are loose ends like Alex Wesker, or "The Family" or whatever other nonsense RE6 implied. The only real "what If"? scenario left is that a whole continent is run over by BOWs...and what after that? Half the world run over by BOWs?

          This is why there should be a reboot and not a 7th entry. There just isnt enough or anything to care about in these sequels anymore, anything sacred or interesting ends up getting hit by mediocrity.

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          • #50
            The only real "what If"? scenario left is that a whole continent is run over by BOWs...and what after that? Half the world run over by BOWs?
            It really isn't. This speaks more about your own lack of imagination than anything else.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by News Bot View Post
              It really isn't. This speaks more about your own lack of imagination than anything else.
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              Personally I would love to see another RE game on an island like Survivor.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Wrathborne View Post
                I stopped caring about the series storyline after 5, so did Darkmoon and lots of others here.
                I stopped with the very first RE Game I played lol. All I want is for the game to be scary, get it's mood back. I would still rather the story kept on going, that would be more interesting.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Wrathborne
                  This is why there should be a reboot and not a 7th entry. There just isnt enough or anything to care about in these sequels anymore, anything sacred or interesting ends up getting hit by mediocrity.
                  What about Ada? There's probably a lot to do with that character. I wanted to see a conclusion regarding her in RE6, but it's as if Capcom knew it was the only "big" plot element left and decided to delay the revelations for sequels.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Grem View Post
                    What about Ada? There's probably a lot to do with that character. I wanted to see a conclusion regarding her in RE6, but it's as if Capcom knew it was the only "big" plot element left and decided to delay the revelations for sequels.
                    People have wanted a conclusion for her, and many others, for years...



                    Here's an idea: Wrap up all character stories in quick intro to Bio7, play the game with new characters and settings. Past characters have had way more than their fair share of screen time. Let's move on, already... without Jake and Sherry, and the rest.

                    It would only be fair, considering players were robbed of the experience of taking down Umbrella, themselves. Instead, we got a quick 1min explanation of Umbrella's financial collapse and public shaming, in Bio4's intro.

                    Going by the original, uncut version of Wesker's Report, I had initially believed Sherry would be turned into a hideous BOW, by now... or held captive by Albert Wesker. Or corrupted by power. Just something different than what we got! :/
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by MarkGrass View Post
                      People have wanted a conclusion for her, and many others, for years...



                      Here's an idea: Wrap up all character stories in quick intro to Bio7, play the game with new characters and settings. Past characters have had way more than their fair share of screen time. Let's move on, already... without Jake and Sherry, and the rest.

                      It would only be fair, considering players were robbed of the experience of taking down Umbrella, themselves. Instead, we got a quick 1min explanation of Umbrella's financial collapse and public shaming, in Bio4's intro.

                      Going by the original, uncut version of Wesker's Report, I had initially believed Sherry would be turned into a hideous BOW, by now... or held captive by Albert Wesker. Or corrupted by power. Just something different than what we got! :/
                      I think I heard somewhere that Weskers Report is not canon so that concludes all of the wrong theory. and ah well RE6 Sucked badly and was a waste of a title entry worst scenario ever and all the characters look terrible and manly retarded looking and tired uh well .... terrible story, I was expecting an RE4 Level game but my hopes went down ...
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                      • #56
                        Wesker's Report is fully canon. Every last word. People just assumed they meant things they didn't. For example, Wesker doesn't literally have Sherry in his possession despite what the video (which was rushed and not handled by the writer) implied, he had access to her through spies in the government. Leon joining an underground anti-Umbrella organization also isn't a reference to Gaiden, it's actually a reference to the Anti-Umbrella Pursuit and Investigation Team (which is referred to as "secret military agency" for some idiotic reason, courtesy of Mikami).
                        Last edited by News Bot; 02-14-2013, 10:52 AM.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by News Bot View Post
                          It really isn't. This speaks more about your own lack of imagination than anything else.
                          Yeah, you don't get to talk to me about imagination when you're more interested in getting the facts straight about a story, than the quality of the story itself.
                          Good or bad, as long as it somehow fits in with established cannon and continues the series further you're content to see another mediocre series of sequels as long as they answer one or two small questions about past series events.

                          How much more awful does the series have to become with these current dimwit producers, dumbass writers, before you actually start to agree with us on a reboot?

                          BTW, I don't make fun of you as a translator, don't make fun of me as a writer. Save the cheap shots for lawyers and politicians.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Wrathborne View Post
                            Yeah, you don't get to talk to me about imagination when you're more interested in getting the facts straight about a story, than the quality of the story itself.
                            Good or bad, as long as it somehow fits in with established cannon and continues the series further you're content to see another mediocre series of sequels as long as they answer one or two small questions about past series events.

                            How much more awful does the series have to become with these current dimwit producers, dumbass writers, before you actually start to agree with us on a reboot?

                            BTW, I don't make fun of you as a translator, don't make fun of me as a writer. Save the cheap shots for lawyers and politicians.
                            Whole lot of wrong here.

                            I can talk about your imagination all I like if you keep giving me reasons to do so. You're always completely free to disprove it.

                            Getting facts straight and enjoying a story are two completely different things and they aren't very connected. If you ever asked me to actually comment on quality, I'd do so. If a new story fits? Great. If it sucks as a story? That's personally disappointing, but the work I do on PU isn't about my personal tastes in the series. Please stop resorting to outright making shit up about me.

                            It will take your reboot idea to be good for me to agree with it. Right now it's a cop-out that will achieve nothing.
                            Last edited by News Bot; 02-14-2013, 12:45 PM.
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                            • #59
                              My Resident Evil 7 would be a semi-reboot from RECV onwards (not breaking the rule here, RE4-6 is mentioned in the intro of this RE7 as a dream), with a new type of 3D horror gameplay. The gameplay will be so good each game will easily build onto the last like the Elder Scrolls series, where only the world/story changes.

                              Furthermore, all future Gun Survivor games will be scrapped and instead a Classic series will be launched (REmake style games). These will have a lower budget but still be awesome (of course). They'll also link up with the main titles so you can choose which way you want to play it. Why? Because uber 1337 dudes with cash don't want static backgrounds/tank controls.

                              Jake and Alex Wesker will appear on the loading screens of all future titles, where they slowly get tortured throughout the game by Big Boy Barry (Burton that is). This is because I can not include (or see) the words of their names in sentences and keep a straight face, so they must be destroyed (by Barry Burton).

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                              • #60
                                My main issues with story is it is now completely disconnected from what the series was originally about.

                                RE1 - Big evil company Umbrella make monsters, few individuals try and survive a mansion full of them and in the end defeat a 'face' of the company and escape.
                                RE2 - Umbrella's monsters are overtaking a city now, few individuals try and survive the city and in the end defeat a face of the company and escape.
                                RE3 - In the city again, trying to survive and being chased by a special monster, another face of the company to deal with, escape.
                                CV - Captured by company, outbreak, trying survive, defeat face of company, escape.
                                RE0 - Individuals trying survive monter in mansion again, face of company, escape etc.

                                After this it jumped the shark, Umbrella is announced dead at start of RE4, every game introduces a new company or cult which by the end is finished and will never become a threat again, there are armies of soldiers trained to fight the monsters, is mainly rescue or extermination missions now rather than just trying to survive. Keep getting stupid plot device hidden companies or organisations that will likely never be explained because by the next game they've lost their entire purpose.


                                I'd like to see a reboot so the series goes back to individuals trying to survive and deal with faces of Umbrella one by one. The story now has painted itself into a corner where there will always be an army in the background and its needs to one-up the previous entry in threat by forcing in as many locations as possible and upping the global threat constantly.
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