RE7 Discussion Thread

[Darkmoon]

At this point, you could inscribe, 'No one wants Resident Evil to be like Call of Duty you fucks' on the Moon and I suspect someone at Capcom would look up and go, 'The Moon mentions Call of Duty? We better makes RE7 a team based shooter full of gizmos, and gadgets, and making sure anyone with skin darker than tan is villainous scum who has to be murdered in a hail of bullets and grenades!'

[Enigmatism415]

There must be something we can do to create a massive PR nightmare for them... Some kind of boycott?

[News Bot]

People that instantly jump to the reboot cop-out are pretty irritating. It will accomplish absolutely nothing except creating a clean slate to immediately defecate on. Nothing will be resolved and you will get the same thing you complained about.

I have no pressing desire for fixed camera angles or tank controls. They are completely unnecessary and not pivotal to the experience. Would they be nice? Sure. Are they required? No. What the series needs is good design formulated by creative bastards with freedom from the clueless dickheads in management and marketing and less focus on trying to appease people with attention deficits.

Revelations was a step in the right direction and I hope they stick to its foundation and improve upon it. BH6 was a poorly designed mess of missed opportunities. Operation Raccoon City was garbage. They need to scale down and apply the budget better and set more realistic sales targets.

Not as bad as continuing forward with no real story direction and characters no one cares about :/

Next game will probably end up a whole continent overrun by BOWs, because thats the obvious next step.

And honestly...There are no real rules the series follows anymore. Zombies spread via bites? Nope, now its fart monsters of doom that after a can of chili can take out a whole city.

Angry unkillable stalker that you have to fill with lead to kill? Nope, now its a Giant angry lovesick monster that you have to punch the hell out of to finish off before a quicktime event death.

Tired of those evil megalomaniacs who just want to destroy everything? How about one who got jilted and couldn't get over it so he makes himself a clone of the woman he couldn't have? And as a n added Bonus he turns into a T-rex then back again as a magic trick!

Clones? Not just any clones, now clones that want to take over the world as a giant jellyfish monster.

And the series primary antagonist unknown bratty boy who is really a good guy at heart...ok, I'm going to bed. Twilight jokes are forming.

Most of this is poppycock. The story has plenty of direction, but lacks people actually trying to utilize it. You're basing this entire post on a single genuinely bad game as though it somehow speaks for the entire series. It doesn't. It's a misstep that has hopefully shown them quite clearly where their misguided notions of mass-appeal and "big budgets, big sales" led them to fuck up.

You're also very late to the party if you think "ruling the world" is something unbecoming of the series when it was the main motivation for the villains in the first game.

Zombies do spread via bites. What are you talking about? Only the Zombies created with the C-Virus do not spread via bites, because that would be inconvenient. Interesting point about "fart monsters of doom", you do know viruses can be transmitted aerially, right? And that the Tyrant was designed to spread the t-Virus in the first game the exact same way?

Clones? There were no clones in BH6. You also know that cloning was how B.O.W.s were mass-produced, surely? Incidentally from the very first game, too. Alexia and Alfred were also pseudo-clones and managed to be more realistic than the shit in the somehow more acclaimed Metal Gear Solid.

The series doesn't have any people who want to destroy everything.

• Marcus? Wants to expose Umbrella and cause them to be blamed for global chaos he would create.
• Wesker? The forced evolution and control of humanity.
• Spencer? Establish himself as a God of a new evolved human race.
• Birkin? Create an evolved human race.
• Alexia? Create a new global ecosystem with herself as the queen.
• Lansdale? Expose the threat of bioterrorism and then place himself as the man in charge of counteracting it while stopping those he was affiliated with (TRICELL) from creating more B.O.W.s.
• Simmons? Show the U.S's superiority over China and establish it as the dominant global superpower.
• Umbrella? Become a faux-superpower and gain immense wealth and power through re-defining the concept of war and then using their weapons as a threat against those who bought from them.
• TRICELL? Take control of the B.O.W. market and fill the gap left by Umbrella.
• Downing? Money!
• Veltro? Become the leading party in Italy, or some shit.
• Carla? Cause global chaos with herself as the leader.
• Svetlana? Orchestrate a staged bioterrorism incident in her country and then resolve it in order to gain the sympathy and respect of the UN and become an accepted member nation.

Hey, looks like none of the villains wanted to destroy everything! You're right about the ridiculous T-Rex mutation and whatnot, but that's a design issue as a result of some really weird designers in the team. People like that should be weeded out of the BIO team altogether and made to go work on Dragon's Dogma.

[Darkmoon]

There must be something we can do to create a massive PR nightmare for them... Some kind of boycott?

I already am. I haven't bought an RE title since RE5 left me with a bitter taste, and any Capcom product at all since Marvel Vs Capcom 3 Ultimate had the shittiest reason for not having a DLC option for the regular version (we were going to, but then we had that Tsunami, and that magically washed away our ability to do so...) which is actually slightly annoying, as I'd like to grab Revelations and see if it's as good as I hear and also Remember Me.

But, honestly, a Boycott isn't going to happen in the numbers to both Capcom unless they start using ground up kittens to make discs or something. Right now, they just make shitty game choices and have an annoyingly morally ambiguous relationship with DLC (they like the extra money, but still want to put out a new versions of the same game on disc at full price to milk it which won't work if it's offered as DLC...) which is enough to piss me off, but then I'm easy to piss off.

Hear that, Games Workshop? You're next.

[Mrox2]

As RE6 quotes: there is NO HOPE LEFT for Resident Evil.

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It's early to discuss but I don't even want to think it would happen.
and if it happened I wont buy it, unless they reboot the series or return to the roots, that's it to me.

Series needs to have the reset switch hit. These newer development teams, producers, and writers dont have what it takes. Its sad that a 3DS side story managed to be a more enjoyable experience than a PS3/Xbox360 title.

Agreed, thats why I'm more excited for Revelations Unvieled Edition "PS3" than RE6 ...
Revelations has the atmosphere of RE4 and original feeling of the games, faithful to the name "Resident Evil / Biohazard"
Here I'm hoping we hear more regarding Rachael and if shes really going to be playable or to have a story.

Imagine RE2 in the same style are Revelations ? It's gonna be a killer game in the gaming history and the franchise itself, that of course if the same Revelations team worked on it by taking the original game in mind. I'd pay anything to get an Ada scenario in RE2

[Sly]

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I think a good way start off is to discuss where the story can/should go from RE6, barring a reboot.
Without further ado, let's start the discussion!

Right. People, if you want to talk about a reboot, go create another thread. This is getting irritating. This one is for RE7 only. Thanks.

Capcom should bring back Sherry as a lead character in RE7, with some new male protagonist (not Jake). Sherry is like a mix between Leon (the whole secret service stuff) and Rebecca (the newbie), so I think she's a good choice as a somewhat "fresh" character, but with enough experience. The new man would be some kind of drifter who got caught up in the outbreak. He doesn't know what's happening but know how to survive, as he's used to live on his own. Two adventures, and just like RE2, they would sometime meet throughout the game. Get some returning characters as NPCs, like Leon as the head of DSO, giving orders to Sherry, Chris and/or Jill saving the day in the last part of the game, things like that, but they should definitely not be playable in the main story.

[Guest]

I already am. I haven't bought an RE title since RE5 left me with a bitter taste, and any Capcom product at all since Marvel Vs Capcom 3 Ultimate had the shittiest reason for not having a DLC option for the regular version (we were going to, but then we had that Tsunami, and that magically washed away our ability to do so...) which is actually slightly annoying, as I'd like to grab Revelations and see if it's as good as I hear and also Remember Me.

But, honestly, a Boycott isn't going to happen in the numbers to both Capcom unless they start using ground up kittens to make discs or something. Right now, they just make shitty game choices and have an annoyingly morally ambiguous relationship with DLC (they like the extra money, but still want to put out a new versions of the same game on disc at full price to milk it which won't work if it's offered as DLC...) which is enough to piss me off, but then I'm easy to piss off.

Hear that, Games Workshop? You're next.

Capcom were under pressure by Marvel and only had a short amount of time left to continue work to release content for MvC3, that includes both new disc content and DLC. While Capcom went back on their word with this one, their licence conditions with Marvel had changed and no longer had the time to slowly trickle out DLC content as well as balance updates like they originally planned. UMvC3 added the new characters, and made various system updates as well as balance changes which would have been necessary post DLC. The only thing Capcom were allowed to do post UMvC3 was bug fixes and sell the DLC they already had lined up. Capcom are no longer updating the game in any form and right now can't create any Marvel related content, while it wasn't what we expected I've pretty much forgiven Capcom for that one as Marvel were right at the wheel of the helm.

[MeganGrass]

People that instantly jump to the reboot cop-out are pretty irritating. It will accomplish absolutely nothing except creating a clean slate to immediately defecate on. Nothing will be resolved and you will get the same thing you complained about.

It's only irritating to you because you're the only one who seems to really care about the canon of these shitty titles.

And must I be the one to point out that you've backed yourself into a corner with your findings? Even you, of all people, have to admit the clusterfuck of contradictory it has become.

I haven't bought an RE title since RE5 left me with a bitter taste

Ditto. Not that it means anything to CAPCOM, but yeah...



I'm sick and tired of these lame emo-ish characters, every goddamn one of them.

And it's fairly obvious, by now, that the story is heading towards a completely apocalyptic wasteland, on Earth. Shit on that.

No one likes Anderson's movie 'ideas' creeping into the games, which is happening at a steady pace.

People are getting bored of the samle ol' blob-like monsters, and super ninja parasitic ganado j'avo "zombies".

Either reboot, or just let the fucking series die, already.

[News Bot]

It's only irritating to you because you're the only one who seems to really care about the canon of these shitty titles.

Now, now. Exaggeration gets nobody anywhere. It's irritating to me because the people who scream "reboot" don't know what they're talking about or even asking for. Starting from scratch would not instantly make CAPCOM more competent. Same deal with people who beg for remakes of the older games. "I know I hate the current team and everything they make, but I really want them to make an older game in their image!"

And must I be the one to point out that you've backed yourself into a corner with your findings? Even you, of all people, have to admit the clusterfuck of contradictory it has become.

Please give an example. The series is actually the most consistent long-running franchise in the industry, incidentally.

And it's fairly obvious, by now, that the story is heading towards a completely apocalyptic wasteland, on Earth. Shit on that.

Some psychic power up in here. I remember the same thing being said after BH3 and CODE:Veronica. It's complete nonsense.

[MeganGrass]

Now, now. Exaggeration gets nobody anywhere. It's irritating to me because the people who scream "reboot" don't know what they're talking about or even asking for. Same deal with people who beg for remakes of the older games. "I know I hate the current team and everything they make, but I really want them to make an older game in their image!"



Some psychic power up in here. I remember the same thing being said after BH3 and CODE:Veronica. It's complete nonsense.

I'm sure there are others who care, and I don't mean to dump on your work - I very much appreciate it. But, you're a dying breed, News Bot. Look around.

With each new title, bio hazards are occurring more and more in various locations on Earth. Bio6, from what i've read, had multiples of locations that were practically wiped off the map. That is, before our muscle bound emo heroes joined the fight, and saved the world.

Bio hazards are no longer contained to a singular area. It would only make sense to turn the entire globe into a wasteland.... which I'm sure, will be saved through impossible means by muscle-bound freaks.

[News Bot]

I've noticed no less people caring about the series storyline than when I started. If anything, the interest has only grown. Don't let that get in the way, though.

Biohazards have occurred in every title in the series and they've all been pretty varied. REV didn't need to even set its one on land. Neither do any others. They could set it on an oil rig and still make a great BIO game. BH6's biohazards only happen in two places. One city in America, caused by one villain, and another city in China, caused by another villain.

Biohazards don't have to be contained to a singular area and from the start they never were meant to be. The entire point of the main aspect of the series plot ("B.O.W.s") was to cause biohazards absolutely everywhere as a new standard of warfare. If anything, that's just something else to add to the long list of things the series has kept consistent since its inception. The fact that they haven't been able to make this work with a horror aesthetic speaks only about the ineptitude of CAPCOM's current designers, not an inherent fault of the series.

I would still like examples of where the series has been contradictory or inconsistent.

[Bianca]

I would really like to see a Claire/Sherry reunion... I'd settle for a reunion in a CGI film, but I think it would be fantastic to see them back in a game, together.

Logically, I'm willing to bet RE7 will just end up being a Jake jizzfest. Sigh...

[Darkmoon]

I hope not, but since Capcom believes firmly that the series needs a young face to appeal to the fans...and Leon is what, 35, 36 years old now? Claire must be mid 30's too. Chris might as well be carving things in stone at somewhere near 40.

So we get Jake...

Seriously, Capcom, horror series. Murder some of the people so they don't get too old to be your youthful face and replace them with someone less smug.

But start with Jake, he's a tool.

[MeganGrass]

Biohazards don't have to be contained to a singular area and from the start they never were meant to be.

I would still like examples of where the series has been contradictory or inconsistent.

You just proved my point (where, bio hazards will consume the world).

As for contradictions, well, let's start with the title. There hasn't been a single "Resident" of evil, since the original title debuted in 1996. And I know the history with the title differences, no need to be reminded.

Is it Clay virus or Progenitor virus? What's the official title? And how the hell was anyone supposed to know? Without access to obscure books which require to be translated, it would to believed to be nothing more than the t-virus that caused the initial outbreak. On average, CAPCOM releases about 2-3 books, per title, which can get expensive (and useless to anyone who can't translate).

Without prior knowledge of the books, how is anyone supposed to know that only a few scenarios of Umbrella and Darkside chronicles is canon?

What about the differences between Bio1 and ReBirth? Without prior knowledge of obscure books, which character's story is canon?

The list can continue, but I ran out of care. Just reboot the damned thing, already. And if you're going to complicate things further, CAPCOM, release the books worldwide. Because everyone loves to read a physical book about a video game to find out the true meanings and scenario layouts.

[Dark_Chris]

All those people who keep talking about reboot are making me sick. What's so great about RE series is the single best ongoing story in the videogames. No retcons so far. Ignorants dicks like MarkGrass can go and play something else if they don't like it. Anyway I'm pretty sure Capcom will only reboot gameplay not the story and characters.