Which RE games elevated, and devestated the series, in your opinion?

[alexdz]

RE4 to both. As it was said in this thread, it gave a new vision that was necessary for the the series but at the same time it gaves us RE5, RE6 and ORC.

[TheOrganization]

Well, if you take in account that the Chronicles or RE5 weren't released by that time. RE1 was all about a virus that got leaked and Wesker taking the opportunity to take everything away. RE2 was about a mad scientist who took his "perfect" virus before his life and wanted to get payback on Umbrella. RE3 was about Jill getting away and Raccoon's destruction. Code Veronica was about a pair of twin freaks that were trying to dominate the world. RE0 was just a big unnecessary excuse for Rebecca having her own adventure. In RE1, she says "after the helicopter made a forced landing, I just ran into this house". The only ones which deals with revenge is RE2 and 0.

Even with Carla's role in RE6, that was still retarded. "OMG, MY LIFE IS A LIE!! MY BOYFRIEND ALWAYS LIED TO ME. SOLUTION? DESTROY THE WORLD!!!"

I know what the games are about haha, I have played them. But your missing the point that the outbreak in the Spencer mansion during 1 only happened because of the events in 0, James Marcus got his revenge on umbrella by spreading the T-Virus which reached the mansion. Birkin wasn't really seeking revenge in 2, he wanted to use the G-Virus to get promoted to the executive board in Umbrella but after falling out with his superiors he planned to sell the virus to the US government. It was infact Umbrella who took their revenge on him by attempting to kill him, like James Marcus before him.
I don't feel RE0 was unnecessary, nor was it an excuse for rebecca to have her own adventure, it was quite an important game with which we got more of a history of umbrella, it's staff and other research going on. It was this game that introduced us to the Progenitor Virus which in the future would play a big part in RE5.
I wouldn't exactly say Carla was retarded either considering she was the one who created the C Virus, and her revenge was to destroy everything Simmons hoped for, she didn't just decide to destroy the world because her "boyfriend" lied to him, she wanted to destroy what he wanted and believed in just as he had done to her

[Guest]

I know what the games are about haha, I have played them. But your missing the point that the outbreak in the Spencer mansion during 1 only happened because of the events in 0, James Marcus got his revenge on umbrella by spreading the T-Virus which reached the mansion. Birkin wasn't really seeking revenge in 2, he wanted to use the G-Virus to get promoted to the executive board in Umbrella but after falling out with his superiors he planned to sell the virus to the US government. It was infact Umbrella who took their revenge on him by attempting to kill him, like James Marcus before him.
I don't feel RE0 was unnecessary, nor was it an excuse for rebecca to have her own adventure, it was quite an important game with which we got more of a history of umbrella, it's staff and other research going on. It was this game that introduced us to the Progenitor Virus which in the future would play a big part in RE5.

Oh, mis-interpretated a text. I thought "revenge always worked in the past" to be "all games had revenge". Sorry.

I wouldn't exactly say Carla was retarded either considering she was the one who created the C Virus, and her revenge was to destroy everything Simmons hoped for, she didn't just decide to destroy the world because her "boyfriend" lied to him, she wanted to destroy what he wanted and believed in just as he had done to her

And later on, she wanted to become queen of the world with the C-Virus. And I also don't understand how trying to infect the whole world would destroy everything he hoped for. On a side note, why did she infect him even before executing her plans in front of her eyes, as she really wanted to? If I remember well, Carla just wanted to destroy everything because she thought the world sucked.

[Grem]

Elevated : RE4 gameplay-wise, without a doubt.

Devastated : RE6. The first real mediocre main game of the series. Everything feels wrong with this game and it leaves the series with no direction.

[The_15th]

I think RE6 is one of the first RE game with a decent story.

[alexdz]

I think RE6 is one of the first RE game with a decent story.

It had the potential for a decent story, like almost every game on the series. But then you have Carla who says "Wesker was a colossal imbecile who tried to destroy the world" and tries to do exactly that, Simmons who was obsessed with Ada for whatever reason and Capcom teasing Chris' death/retirement just to chicken out at the end.

[News Bot]

I know what the games are about haha, I have played them. But your missing the point that the outbreak in the Spencer mansion during 1 only happened because of the events in 0, James Marcus got his revenge on umbrella by spreading the T-Virus which reached the mansion. Birkin wasn't really seeking revenge in 2, he wanted to use the G-Virus to get promoted to the executive board in Umbrella but after falling out with his superiors he planned to sell the virus to the US government. It was infact Umbrella who took their revenge on him by attempting to kill him, like James Marcus before him.
I don't feel RE0 was unnecessary, nor was it an excuse for rebecca to have her own adventure, it was quite an important game with which we got more of a history of umbrella, it's staff and other research going on. It was this game that introduced us to the Progenitor Virus which in the future would play a big part in RE5.
I wouldn't exactly say Carla was retarded either considering she was the one who created the C Virus, and her revenge was to destroy everything Simmons hoped for, she didn't just decide to destroy the world because her "boyfriend" lied to him, she wanted to destroy what he wanted and believed in just as he had done to her

The outbreak in BH1 happens absolutely fine if you remove BH0, which doesn't even actually explain anything about the outbreak. It just says "Marcus did it", and the actual reason the outbreak occurred is something Marcus wouldn't be able to do. So it doesn't actually make sense. The game also explains nothing about Bravo Team. Essentially, it fails as a prequel.

BH0 was a good idea that ended up being pretty pointless in the long run. The things it did well weren't done well enough, and were overshadowed by some of the more less-than-stellar plot points.

It had the potential for a decent story, like almost every game on the series. But then you have Carla who says "Wesker was a colossal imbecile who tried to destroy the world" and tries to do exactly that, Simmons who was obsessed with Ada for whatever reason and Capcom teasing Chris' death/retirement just to chicken out at the end.

Carla is right, though. Wesker's plan would've wiped out the human race. Carla wanted chaos, not extinction. Of course the game doesn't do that any justice and blurs the lines quite badly (particularly with HAOS, which was designed to literally eradicate the globe and completely goes against Carla herself).

[alexdz]

Carla is right, though. Wesker's plan would've wiped out the human race. Carla wanted chaos, not extinction. Of course the game doesn't do that any justice and blurs the lines quite badly (particularly with HAOS, which was designed to literally eradicate the globe and completely goes against Carla herself).

I'm pretty sure that death of the human race would follow the chaos created by her. At the end of the day both had the same idiotic, cartoonish plan of infecting the world.

[ccrogers15]

It had the potential for a decent story, like almost every game on the series. But then you have Carla who says "Wesker was a colossal imbecile who tried to destroy the world" and tries to do exactly that, Simmons who was obsessed with Ada for whatever reason and Capcom teasing Chris' death/retirement just to chicken out at the end.

Every story in RE6 made absolutely no sense at all. It was not at all a decent story. It was terrible.

With RE5, i hated it to death. It was god terrible. The gameplay was clunky, and areas were bland and boring.
But the story was still 5 times better than anything from that dirty trash ball capcom called RE6.

[Enigmatism415]

You didn't follow the established format...now I'm sad.

Generally Elevated
RE1 (00->50)
RE2 (50->80)
RE3 (80->85)
RECV (85->85)
REmake (85->100)
RE0 (100->95)

Generally Devastated

RE: Outbreak 1&2 (95->65)

RE4 (65->00)...(00->80)
RE5 (80->50)
RE6 (50->50)

IMHO...

[Dracarys]

From what point of view is this? Personal or industry?

[Graco]

BH4 for both. The innovations for the gameplay were spectacular and revolutionary, but the execution of the level design was poor and some things should have never been added in the first place. (QTEs and enemies with guns for example).
"How will Umbrella go down? Who will be involved? When will it happen, and how close are we to that?" The climax of the series was ruined when they crammed it in the prologue and the series has felt so disjointed ever since. I don't think the plot will ever recover from that. Yes, it can continue but it feels so awkward.

[TheOrganization]

And later on, she wanted to become queen of the world with the C-Virus. And I also don't understand how trying to infect the whole world would destroy everything he hoped for. On a side note, why did she infect him even before executing her plans in front of her eyes, as she really wanted to? If I remember well, Carla just wanted to destroy everything because she thought the world sucked.

Simmons and The Family had worked behind the scenes for years manipulating goverments to maintain order and balance in the world, it's all they had ever worked to do. So by causing the outbreaks Carla was ruining what they worked for.
I'm not sure why she infected him first to be honest, I think it's because it was only a matter of time before he killed her so she had to do it, plus just because he was infected doesn't mean the rest of The Family wouldn't see what she'd caused

[Ohmycod]

Hmmm.

Well i'd have to say Code Veronica started it, and Resident evil 4 took it a lot further. Don't get me wrong Code Veronica is a good game, but it had a bit too much action in places and felt a lot less like a re game. Re 4 on the other hand wasn't a re game at all! As soon as I played re 4 my first thought was why am I playing Metal Gear Solid?!

I also think bringing Wesker back was not a good move. If the choice was to bring Wesker back as a reborn character, or to just leave him to die by the Tyrant i'd choose the second! As far as i'm concerned when Wesker was dead the story moved on, when he was revived in the story line went to rats!

[Guest]

Simmons and The Family had worked behind the scenes for years manipulating goverments to maintain order and balance in the world, it's all they had ever worked to do. So by causing the outbreaks Carla was ruining what they worked for.
I'm not sure why she infected him first to be honest, I think it's because it was only a matter of time before he killed her so she had to do it, plus just because he was infected doesn't mean the rest of The Family wouldn't see what she'd caused

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