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  • #31
    Originally posted by shanemurphy View Post
    And when did I say my idea was "Revolutionary"? It's not even my "idea" it's a from the looks of things bad creative discussion.

    It's funny you say they are completely out of place for the BIO universe when the series has introduced some completely batshit crazy designs.
    Those designs are also only possible with the viruses presently in the series. No real world virus would create anything similar.

    Originally posted by Wrathborne View Post
    Stop. You don't really care what he has to say, you just want to scrutinize him.

    Sorry Shane, I been down this road with Newsbot many times before. He's not interested in what you have to say in any way other than to tell you that you're wrong. Theres no point in sharing your ideas really, you're just going to be told that they aren't good. Its really a waste of time to take this any further.

    A discussion only works when both parties are interested in discussing a topic, that isn't the case here.
    There is nothing to discuss. His original post is vague and the one and only example he has given thus far is utterly meaningless, and he is already conscious of the fact that he doesn't know what he's talking about. The entire topic is based on a vague notion of an idea, not an actual idea. It's poorly conceived and not at all thought out. It doesn't deserve patience.
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    • #32
      News Bot here is an idea that's well thought out, I have actually put some thought into this one I swear.

      You don't want to stay on the topic or discuss anything......Don't post in the thread! Just leave and erase the existence of the thread from your memory.

      A simple idea I know but it's something you should think about.

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      • #33
        I'm not leaving the thread because you failed to put any thought into it before spouting nonsense. You can still salvage it by... making any sense at all. You've already had it calmly explained to you why your idea doesn't work, but you've ignored it. Quid pro quo.
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        • #34
          If I'm spouting nonsense then why do you care to stay?

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          • #35
            Why do you care to post at all? Asking stupid questions isn't going to fix your thread. I suggest you do some actual research into an actual idea, then come present something that may actually make sense. And perhaps be less ignorant next time. Refusing to address criticism of your idea doesn't make it any more sound.
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            • #36
              Hmm let's see, you come into this thread that obviously does not interest you at all, and for some reason you keep doing it.

              Heres the difference between you and me:

              Me: I'm actually interested in discussing a worthwhile response even if my message did not come across quite as clear as it should

              You: No interest at all to do with anything in this thread, but you still keep coming into it.
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              • #37
                Who said it doesn't interest me? You're clearly not as interested as you want to seem if all you're going to do is reply to me and neither address criticism of your idea, nor actually flesh out your idea in general so people can actually have a clue what you're trying to say. You're not doing yourself any favors getting into an argument.
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                • #38
                  I'm not arguing with you, alright then let me take your advice and attempt to give an example.

                  My intention was not to directly apply a virus or disease as a main cause for a infection in the series or one off entry, but the attributes of some of them that could contribute to the mutation (this is Resi Evil after all, taking base designs and concepts such as a Queen Ant or Bee can result into something horrific), mainly appearance and interesting designs for example:

                  The Elephant man who was born with his deformities has this really strange disease, sounds sick I know but something like that could be taken and expanded apon in the series to provide a almost human but emotionally confusing look, similar to Zombies who look human which provides that sense of victim as a member mentioned a good few messages ago.

                  Even something like Paranoia, which of course is a brain illness, could be applied to an enemy for a organic and dynamic encounter, never knowing how the illness is affecting the individual at the time.

                  As I said before and you as usual so politely point out, I know very little about virus's and the like, I was just hoping someone who knows more might have been able to shed some ideas of what would make interesting visual appearances based on real world side effects.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Wrathborne View Post
                    Stop. You don't really care what he has to say, you just want to scrutinize him.

                    Sorry Shane, I been down this road with Newsbot many times before. He's not interested in what you have to say in any way other than to tell you that you're wrong. Theres no point in sharing your ideas really, you're just going to be told that they aren't good. Its really a waste of time to take this any further.

                    A discussion only works when both parties are interested in discussing a topic, that isn't the case here.
                    I love this whole hate-hate relationship you and Newsie have going on all the time, I really do, but sometimes I just wish you two would stop trying to fool us all and just move into an apartment together. You crazy lovebirds.

                    Originally posted by shanemurphy View Post
                    I'm not arguing with you, alright then let me take your advice and attempt to give an example.

                    My intention was not to directly apply a virus or disease as a main cause for a infection in the series or one off entry, but the attributes of some of them that could contribute to the mutation (this is Resi Evil after all, taking base designs and concepts such as a Queen Ant or Bee can result into something horrific), mainly appearance and interesting designs for example:

                    The Elephant man who was born with his deformities has this really strange disease, sounds sick I know but something like that could be taken and expanded apon in the series to provide a almost human but emotionally confusing look, similar to Zombies who look human which provides that sense of victim as a member mentioned a good few messages ago.

                    Even something like Paranoia, which of course is a brain illness, could be applied to an enemy for a organic and dynamic encounter, never knowing how the illness is affecting the individual at the time.

                    As I said before and you as usual so politely point out, I know very little about virus's and the like, I was just hoping someone who knows more might have been able to shed some ideas of what would make interesting visual appearances based on real world side effects.
                    Technically, the Joseph Merrick wasn't born with his deformities, they formed over the span of his life due to (what they hypothesize was) Proteus Disease. He was permanently lame in one leg due to a hip injury (caused by his deformities) and couldn't sleep laying down for the weight of his own head. Not joining either side of the argument here, just providing some facts.
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                    • #40
                      And those facts are extremely welcomed.

                      I feel like this has been a failed experiment and perhaps the thread should be closed, as much as it makes me quiver News Bot I think was right that I should have taken more time to think about how I approached the thread, don't get me wrong I still stand by the main objective of the thread from a kind of real world side effects witches mix for a new virus, but yes my presentation was less then ideal so sorry for that guys.

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                      • #41
                        Well, the Raccoon City outbreak can be considered a "natural outbreak", as well as the one on the Antarctica base from RECV and pueblo from RE4. The mansion outbreak was considered an accident at the beginning too. No companies or terrorist groups caused any of those outbreaks.

                        The problem with more real viruses is the fact that no virus can create even a single zombie in real life, and the whole point of the viruses in RE universe is that they bring the chance of creating a great amount of unreal horrifying creatures to give the player something to fight with.

                        I think RE6 went too far with the C-Virus mutations at the point of turning some creatures into something hilarious, so I hope a less exaggerated virus for the next RE, but an accidental ilness caused by a more realistic virus wouldn`t give too much variety of creatures beyond some ordinary zombies. Of course, pre-made BOWs can compensate a more ordinary viral outbreak, who knows, it could work if made well.

                        Anyway, what I really want back is an infection metter like the one from Outbreak series, that would turn the experience more interesting.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by AsteroidBlues View Post
                          Technically, the Joseph Merrick wasn't born with his deformities, they formed over the span of his life due to (what they hypothesize was) Proteus Disease. He was permanently lame in one leg due to a hip injury (caused by his deformities) and couldn't sleep laying down for the weight of his own head. Not joining either side of the argument here, just providing some facts.
                          Actually, its not known how deformed he was when he was an infant.Based on how extreme his deformities were by the time he was an adult its hard to guage what he looked like.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Wrathborne View Post
                            Actually, its not known how deformed he was when he was an infant.Based on how extreme his deformities were by the time he was an adult its hard to guage what he looked like.
                            Actually, that's not true in the slightest. In biographies (much like the one provided below), he was born perfectly normal looking despite having the disease in him. I could cite many more sources to prove this fact, but why bother. *wink*

                            http://thehumanmarvels.com/145/josep...-man/deformity
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                            • #44
                              I'll be damned. I'd read previously that he was born deformed, to an unknown extent and as time went on things deteriorated.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by shanemurphy View Post
                                I'm not arguing with you, alright then let me take your advice and attempt to give an example.

                                My intention was not to directly apply a virus or disease as a main cause for a infection in the series or one off entry, but the attributes of some of them that could contribute to the mutation (this is Resi Evil after all, taking base designs and concepts such as a Queen Ant or Bee can result into something horrific), mainly appearance and interesting designs for example:

                                The Elephant man who was born with his deformities has this really strange disease, sounds sick I know but something like that could be taken and expanded apon in the series to provide a almost human but emotionally confusing look, similar to Zombies who look human which provides that sense of victim as a member mentioned a good few messages ago.

                                Even something like Paranoia, which of course is a brain illness, could be applied to an enemy for a organic and dynamic encounter, never knowing how the illness is affecting the individual at the time.

                                As I said before and you as usual so politely point out, I know very little about virus's and the like, I was just hoping someone who knows more might have been able to shed some ideas of what would make interesting visual appearances based on real world side effects.
                                And as I've said already, no attribute from any virus would make a lick of difference to the viruses already in the series. Real viruses are comparatively weak.
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