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  • #61
    I do get to determine that, actually. That's part of being able to discuss something. I can have a view on his "idea" (or lack thereof in this case). Don't post an idea if you aren't willing to accept criticism. That's a problem you yourself have had in the past. Deconstructing someone's idea and giving reasons why it can/cannot happen is discussion. You just don't like it, so a quick "deal with it" seems appropriate.

    PS: If you're going to lecture someone about civility, it is important to maintain civility yourself at all times. Dropping it just voids the point.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by News Bot View Post
      PS: If you're going to lecture someone about civility, it is important to maintain civility yourself at all times. Dropping it just voids the point.
      I was quite civil with you, your just upset about someone calling you on your conduct on the forum.

      You don't deconstruct others ideas, you just make fun of them for having an idea. Thats not criticism, if you're going to pretend thats criticism, I'm going to pretend you're a talking hot dog.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Wrathborne View Post
        I was quite civil with you, your just upset about someone calling you on your conduct on the forum.

        You don't deconstruct others ideas, you just make fun of them for having an idea. Thats not criticism, if you're going to pretend thats criticism, I'm going to pretend you're a talking hot dog.
        I'm not upset at all, actually. Not sure where you got that idea. I'm also not the one attempting to make a point by calling someone a child, or sad. That's not civil.

        I did deconstruct his idea, just as I've deconstructed yours in the past. You just don't like it, and no, I haven't made fun of him. I've just very plainly told him what's wrong with it, though I do make fun of ideas that suck. I'm fully entitled to that as long as it's not insulting in nature (unlike calling someone a child or sad). It is criticism either way even if I make light of it. I've actually said more about his idea than he has, and I've criticized it more than everyone else thus far who have simply dismissed it (not that I can blame them). I actually only really lost patience when he responded to five people by dismissing them with "cannot read" despite admitting he failed with his initial post.

        You've also been told in the past, if you have an issue with anything I say, use the report button. Arguing with someone whom you claim is naturally inclined to argue is very self-defeating. It won't lead anywhere, you're just shitting up Shane's topic by making me the subject rather than his idea.
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        • #64
          I'm also not the one attempting to make a point by calling someone a child, or sad. That's not civil.

          You do it all the time when you argue, are you really going to complain about someone else taking jabs at you now?


          I did deconstruct his idea, just as I've deconstructed yours in the past.


          You said an ebola type virus wouldn't work because it just kills you, he said he was just using that as an example. I understand what both of you are saying but an Ebola style virus that spreads through physical contact(Not just biting, or the fart monsters in RE 6) would work in an RE universe game.

          As a matter of fact that would be even more terrifying because being in the same room with someone who has Ebola who sneezes on you(Or vomits blood on you, and yes that does happen) could spread the virus, granted after about a 3rd generation spread the chances of survival increase, but the RE games haven't addressed the virus becoming weaker with every person they infect, least I don't think they have.

          Being around someone who is infected with a T-virus isn't that bad as long as they don't bite you, being around someone with an Ebola style...T virus(for the sake of argument) would still infect you because the virus turns the victim into a literal plague rat and everything about them is 'hot' with the virus. Saliva, sweat, tears, blood, even feces.

          You just don't like it, and no, I haven't made fun of him. I've just very plainly told him what's wrong with it, though I do make fun of ideas that suck

          I don't care that much about your criticism of my ideas, because you don't like anyone's ideas. However, I don't like seeing you treat other members crappily because you don't like their ideas. And you just made fun of him, again. If my saying you're acting like a child defeats my argument, does this defeat your argument? or does this rule only apply to people who aren't you?

          .I'm fully entitled to that as long as it's not insulting in nature (unlike calling someone a child or sad).

          Yeah because making fun of someone for having an idea isn't of a rude or insulting nature.


          It is criticism either way even if I make light of it. I've actually said more about his idea than he has, and I've criticized it more than everyone else thus far who have simply dismissed it (not that I can blame them). I actually only really lost patience when he responded to five people by dismissing them with "cannot read" despite admitting he failed with his initial post


          Again, you yourself never bring anything to the table on these discussions other than to prod at others for having ideas, that you always hate.

          You've also been told in the past, if you have an issue with anything I say, use the report button. Arguing with someone whom you claim is naturally inclined to argue is very self-defeating. It won't lead anywhere, you're just shitting up Shane's topic by making me the subject rather than his idea.

          Arguing with someone I claim is "naturally inclined to argue"?

          Originally posted by News Bot View Post
          Somehow I feel better about my tedious argumentative nature.

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          • #65
            I didn't do it. You have no reason to do it yourself. Also; someone else doing something does not give you free reign to do the same. Read the rules.

            - Insults are obviously against the rules. It’s one thing to argue with a person other an idea or opinion you disagree with, it’s another entirely to insult them. It also usually means you’re loosing the argument. So don’t do it.

            - Needling other members into making personal attacks through small, malicious actions is also against the rules, as it tends to derail threads into bickering and arguments.
            - Equally, if someone does insult you remember not to insult them back. ‘They started it’ is not considered an acceptable as this forum is generally considered to be for adults. We expect members to have sufficient self control to not reply to personal insults. We will give out infractions for all the insults in a thread, not just the one who started it.
            An Ebola style virus would not work in a BIO game. In fact, the series itself outright states this. The theme of the series is not viral infection. It's monsters. The virus is just a medium to explain the monsters in a semi-realistic manner. You would need yet another virus (or parasite etc) that creates monsters. There's really no way around that, and it's the reason there are so many different viruses all derived from the Progenitor Virus. But when you introduce so many convenient plot devices, they lose their value and cheapen the product. The "plague rat" description you just gave applies completely to the t-Virus. Bites aren't the only mode of transmission (the virus begins airborne), they are just the most notorious thanks to "of the Dead" series and other films.

            You care a lot about my criticisms. If you didn't, you wouldn't be talking about them at all.

            I didn't make fun of or insult Shane himself. I "made fun" of his idea, and didn't even actually do that until after he dismissed people for not liking the idea. There is no quota I have to meet on what I discuss in any topic, and I am not interested in satisfying people. You're free to ignore me.

            Not sure why you used my last quote, I never denied being argumentative. Just pointing out that you have an issue with it and know of it, yet still chose to argue with me, and get all butthurt when I return the favor.
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              • #67
                After watching these squabbles for a while now, I've come to a conclusion. Newsbot is a fellow who knows where his towel is at all times, and Wrathborne seems to resent this in the most awful way.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by News Bot View Post
                  Not sure why you used my last quote, I never denied being argumentative.
                  Why did I post that quote? Because someone who I "claim" to be argumentative likes to argue, this is a truth and not a claim.

                  You didn't deny being argumentative, you did try to suggest that my claim was unfounded.

                  Yeah, I care a lot about your criticisms, that's why I'm arguing with you about your conduct. In the end you don't care about any of the ideas presented here and just show up to tell the person that they're wrong. Thats criticism how? Its just you saying that "this goes against the games canon" or "This sucks".

                  Your criticism would be worth listening too, if you didn't hate every idea that was shared here, much less actually had a suggestion on how someone elses idea could work.

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                  • #69
                    A claim doesn't mean false.

                    You care about my criticisms. Otherwise you have no reason to even be arguing. I'm not the only one who criticized Shane's idea, please go back and read. No, I don't "care" about any ideas presented here. Why should I? I hear hundreds of ideas every day. Some good, some bad. That doesn't mean I cannot discuss, criticize or praise them. You'd do awful in any creative industry if this is how you react to an idea being criticized. Something going against the canon is a fully applicable point. As is "this sucks", which was backed up with reasons you seem to ignore. The sooner you learn to deal with this, the better off you'll be.

                    I don't hate every idea shared here. Please provide proof of this statement. I also did give a suggestion:

                    Originally posted by News Bot
                    Personally, I want the U.S. government or some other party to start using the t-virus for gene therapy. Not with the intent to create monsters, but for beneficial purposes... that don't follow through very well.
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                    • #70
                      As News Bot the Ebola virus is not suitable for a resident evil game, because it can take you right to the death.
                      News Bot: The rage virus can be developed as a biological weapon?
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