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  • #16
    Originally posted by News Bot View Post
    And again, you're renowned for twisting quotes, so don't act shocked when someone assumes that's what you're doing with an exact quote you twisted only a month ago in another pathetic attempt to make me look wrong. Aside from that, I just cleared up any potential confusion, which you attempted to perpetuate before. Anyway, your bullshit has nothing to do with this topic. Any other off-topic posts will just be reported.
    Topic concerns Survivor, is nothing off topic by me.

    Is no 'twisting' by me either. He was asked a series of questions on a theme and when a question relating to Survivor's story input was asked he said it is a seperate entity and didn't answer the question. Pretty clear what he meant. When you try and explain a 1 line answer with 3+ paragraphs of explanation and quotation of stuff not even in the interview all to try explain what he 'really' meant it is pretty funny accusing me of doing the twisting.


    edit: Just want to add, just because that is his attitude it doesn't reflect Capcoms. He actually acknowledges this and says not to take his vision/story as necessarily being right. But not everyone involved bothers to point this out which is why nothing spoken is ever gospel and certainly needs no twisting to defend a certain viewpoint. It makes your accusations of twisting even more absurd. And with that I'm done with this topic, well done we still know Nicholai is alive. Let the insults fly!
    Last edited by Dracarys; 02-20-2014, 07:33 AM.
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    • #17
      I explained what he meant because I've personally spoken to him on the subject for a pretty long time and am very aware of his intentions. For the record, there was more to the original question:

      BIO3 was made only with the staff from CAPCOM’s head office.
      CODE:Veronica was a game made by Director Katoh.
      Although BIO0 was made by someone else too, FLAGSHIP wrote the scenario. Mr. Katoh, who was my senior, wrote CODE:Veronica. Therefore, by way of the setting, it’s something different from Mr. Mikami’s recognition. Since BIO3 was made in the development department Mr. Mikami led directly, it naturally reflected his will.
      GUN SURVIVOR is similar to BIO0.
      The settings written by the FLAGSHIP scenario writers probably didn't obtain Mr. Mikami’s consent.
      BIOHAZARD OUTBREAK is treated similar to BIO0. It's official.

      BIOHAZARD belonged to CAPCOM Production Studio 4 where Shinji Mikami was the department head. However, depending on the title, staff other than Production Studio 4 may have created them.
      I became CAPCOM staff from BIO3. When Production Studio 4 was established, I wasn’t sure about the staff that had been assigned to other production studios either. Oda was a producer. As for me, Mr. Mikami’s eye was very important. I can only talk about BIOHAZARDs made by Production Studio 4.
      You are once again inserting your own context and outright fabricating a meaning for yourself to suit your myopic views, just like you do with everything. He did not answer in regards to the story. Generally, he never would, as he did not work on that story. He does not comment on stories he did not work on except in regards to their value as a product. That is why he didn't answer the question directly. He does not mention canon, or universes, because frankly those aren't his to decide even though the entire series canon is based on the story "Bible" he wrote.

      edit: Just want to add, just because that is his attitude it doesn't reflect Capcoms. He actually acknowledges this and says not to take his vision/story as necessarily being right. But not everyone involved bothers to point this out which is why nothing spoken is ever gospel and certainly needs no twisting to defend a certain viewpoint. It makes your accusations of twisting even more absurd.
      You don't say. That's why I provided CAPCOM's attitude, which is corroborated in several of their official books and by their own developers. Things are only as "gospel" as they are new. It just so happens that the entire current canon of the series is based on Kawamura's work, so as of 2014, everything is consistent. This might change in the future, but is not the case right now. You are only stating an obvious point that "everyone involved" openly acknowledges. I don't need to accuse you of twisting, because anyone with just one functional eye can see that.

      And with that I'm done with this topic, well done we still know Nicholai is alive.
      You mean Nikolai.

      Last edited by News Bot; 02-20-2014, 07:53 AM.
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      • #18
        Survivor is canon .. takes place inbetween RE2 and Code Veronica I believe? Am I right..

        It clearly mentions the destruction of Raccoon City in the beginning sequence, and that Ark was sent by Leon S Kennedy to gather info (clearly after RE2 when Leon becomes a government agent)
        Not to mention in ZERO opening, the narrator mentions Sheena Island as a 'second Raccoon City' type accident - so it takes place afterwards.

        As naff as Survivor is .... it is still part of the normal RE storyline


        As for Nikolai ... He obviously survives Raccoon (but only if you get the 'ending' where he steals the helicopter and shoots at Jill in the control tower.. And the file in Survivor shows this also, his report.
        Last edited by RaccoonSurvivor; 02-20-2014, 08:47 AM.
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        • #19
          News Bot, stop being such a bitter prick towards Dracarys. All she did was post a quote and you drag her into yet another one of your silly, pointless debates because of something she said months ago.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Renard View Post
            News Bot, stop being such a bitter prick towards Dracarys. All she did was post a quote and you drag her into yet another one of your silly, pointless debates because of something she said months ago.
            Takes two to tango, and she likes to dance. She said it one month ago. Not plural, points deducted for exaggeration. Then she went right ahead and proved my point by trying to argue her position on it again by claiming Kawamura is wrong/a liar, pot calling the kettle black. I'm pretty far from bitter, I point out everyone's bullshit. She just happens to know very little and have a very consistent stream of it. Go white knight somewhere else. Considering you're still rather new, I'll let you have your naivety.

            It's not like she's used thinly veiled bait posts against me countless times in the pa--- oh fuck wait a minute. She enters almost every plot-related topic I post solely for the purpose of disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing (at least I hope that's it, because one person cannot be so consistently wrong unintentionally). Like I said earlier, she's talked so much shit in her time she's become the boy that cried wolf. Not that my reaction is justified, but that's why.
            Last edited by News Bot; 02-20-2014, 12:14 PM.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by News Bot View Post
              Takes two to tango, and she likes to dance. She said it one month ago. Not plural, points deducted for exaggeration. Then she went right ahead and proved my point by trying to argue her position on it again by claiming Kawamura is wrong/a liar, pot calling the kettle black. I'm pretty far from bitter, I point out everyone's bullshit. She just happens to know very little and have a very consistent stream of it. Go white knight somewhere else. Considering you're still rather new, I'll let you have your naivety.

              It's not like she's used thinly veiled bait posts against me countless times in the pa--- oh fuck wait a minute. She enters almost every plot-related topic I post solely for the purpose of disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing (at least I hope that's it, because one person cannot be so consistently wrong unintentionally). Like I said earlier, she's talked so much shit in her time she's become the boy that cried wolf. Not that my reaction is justified, but that's why.
              Points? This isn't a contest. And in case you don't already know, I'm not the greatest at English. You still had no reason to call her out when she merely provided a quote for me.

              I am still rather new, but I have have seen you two duke it out before. One time it even ended in temporary bans for the both of you, what a shame. Stop taking fictional universes so seriously. I've seen that thread before and know.

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              • #22
                I was being sarcastic, and no I didn't know, considering you live in a predominately English speaking nation. I've been temporarily banned several times over 8 years. I don't take fictional universes seriously in general, I find it pretty easy to separate the Internet and real life. How I act on a forum is not indicative of my actual personality, as many here can attest to. As I said, my reaction to her isn't justified, but there's reason behind it. She's known for jumping in with attempted cheap shots and inflammatory bait, as I've demonstrated.
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                • #23
                  Oh, I knew you were being sarcastic. Also I wasn't born in the US, nor was English my first language (I'm only saying this so that it's understandable to you if I sound illiterate or inarticulate in any way). And I'm pretty sure no one has the exact same personality while online and IRL. It's only text, after all.

                  I don't blame her for continuously going after you -- you're fun to argue with.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Renard View Post

                    I don't blame her for continuously going after you -- you're fun to argue with.
                    Really? No, most the time i see someone gabbing with him its because they are trying to fuck up his knowledge of Le Canon. And thats what his area of expertise is.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Renard View Post
                      I still can't find anything. Do you think you could provide links if you have the time?
                      Here.

                      And here.

                      ラクーン市における一連の事件で収集したデータをもとにアンブレラが造り上げたB.O.W.。
                      A B.O.W. created by Umbrella based on data collected in a series of incidents in Raccoon City.
                      Previous Game Facts
                      The Gulp Worm closely resembles the "Grave Digger" that appeared in "BIO3." The Grave Digger was the result of a kind of accident, an arthropod that transformed in the shadow of the T-Virus that permeated the soil. This game's Gulp Worm was this turned into a B.O.W.
                      Last edited by News Bot; 02-21-2014, 04:32 AM.
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                      • #26
                        I don't see where it mentions Nicholai.

                        (Also there's a typo on that guidebook page -- it says Leon is a "rooke" cop.)

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                        • #27
                          It doesn't have to mention him. He was the last surviving monitor agent, and thus the only person able to get Umbrella the combat data they wanted. Although that gives me another thing to ask Mr. Kawamura; whether Umbrella had any other methods of acquiring combat data aside from their field agents.

                          Thanks for notifying me of the typo. Corrected.
                          Last edited by News Bot; 02-21-2014, 10:00 AM.
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                          • #28
                            I always recognized Gun Survivor as canon simply because they acknowledged it in BH0.
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                            • #29
                              Not to mention in ZERO opening, the narrator mentions Sheena Island as a 'second Raccoon City' type accident - so it takes place afterwards.
                              didn't zero take place before the events in re2

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jimmyjoejangles View Post
                                didn't zero take place before the events in re2
                                Yes, BH0 took place before any of the games. The narrator mentions the events of 2-3, CV and Survivor before taking us back to "Before the mansion incident" to gain insight on Umbrella, who is linked to all four disasters.
                                Last edited by REmaster; 03-10-2014, 02:31 PM.
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