Anyone pick up Revelations 2? (*Fawkin' spoilers beware*)

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You never know Spencer as the founder of Umbrella or discoverer of the Progenitor Virus until the fourth game (CV/GS). He also never caused Raccoon City's destruction, that was the Queen Leech. Again... going purely by your logic here.

You don't even understand my logic to begin with.

You're contradicting and undermining yourself. Alex is directly responsible for Spencer's death, which makes them pretty important right away.

Yes, just like the other Wesker children are. And what do you mean "directly"? It wasn't gonna happen if, you know, Wesker didn't outright kill him. That's "indirectly", at best.

EDIT: She sent HUNK to get the virus. He delivered it straight to her in Loire Village, which was the location of her chateau and secret laboratory (which Birkin's laboratory was based on, and where he and Annette first developed G). So yes, she got the virus. She shared it with Umbrella.

And if she was name Chris Henrietta, she would still be a nobody. Because whenever someone thinks about RE2's plot, they think about HUNK and Umbrella.
I still have to find someone who actually believes she's not a generic character.
Oh wait, I found someone, you. ;)

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No kidding, you need better logic.

The other Wesker children are dead. Alex leaving is what causes Spencer to lure Albert to him, knowing he'd be killed. So Alex caused his death, indirectly maybe, but he wouldn't be dead if Alex hadn't abandoned him.

It doesn't matter what people think about the plot. People think there's a possibility of Annette being alive because of a goofy mistranslation, and most people are unaware that the G-Virus' purpose was to create an evolved human race, among so many other misconceptions. Ignorance (not in a bad way, either) does not affect the actual story-- in which Christine Henry is the one person responsible for sending HUNK to steal the G-Virus.

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No kidding, you need better logic.

You still don't understand it to talk about it.

The other Wesker children are dead. Alex leaving is what causes Spencer to lure Albert to him, knowing he'd be killed. So Alex caused his death, indirectly maybe, but he wouldn't be dead if Alex hadn't abandoned him.

And what makes you think that? Because there's no mention of it, and Wesker is just there with no reason at all.

It doesn't matter what people think about the plot. People think there's a possibility of Annette being alive because of a goofy mistranslation, and most people are unaware that the G-Virus' purpose was to create an evolved human race, among so many other misconceptions. Ignorance (not in a bad way, either) does not affect the actual story-- in which Christine Henry is the one person responsible for sending HUNK to steal the G-Virus.

Still, nobody cares about her.
They've tried creating a file explaining shit, spent a minute thinking "Wait, guys, we need to give a name for the character who will sign the file", and there she was.

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I understand it fine-- that it's total nonsense.

I dunno what makes me think that. Probably the game outright saying it... maybe.

Except people do care. You personally not caring has no impact.
Actually, no. Henry had her very own story. She wasn't a random name, she was a full character.

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I understand it fine-- that it's total nonsense.

Riiiiiiight...

I dunno what makes me think that. Probably the game outright saying it... maybe.

The game doesn't outright says it. You assume that Alex leaving caused Spencer to call Wesker.

Except people do care. You personally not caring has no impact.
Actually, no. Henry had her very own story. She wasn't a random name, she was a full character.

Just like Alex, until Revelations 2.
Christine was a nobody, until they've decided to bring her back.

Again, if you don't understand my logic, it's clear we'll never reach an agreement.
Just shut up and let me drown in my ignorance, if that's what you believe.
We've both made our points, and staying here repeating the same bullshit will lead us nowhere. It will just derail the thread.

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Patrick's Memoirs 3 is written after Spencer's Memoirs 4. Alex leaves in the latter, Spencer lures Albert in the former. Not hard to understand.

So you admit Alex was a full character? Great! So we're in agreement then. You can't say Alex is a "nobody" without saying Spencer and half the characters in the series are also "nobodies."

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Patrick's Memoirs 3 is written after Spencer's Memoirs 4. Alex leaves in the latter, Spencer lures Albert in the former. Not hard to understand.

So you admit Alex was a full character? Great! So we're in agreement then. You can't say Alex is a "nobody" without saying Spencer and half the characters in the series are also "nobodies."

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You don't understand my logic to talk about it.

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Nobody: Generic character, originally meant to show up in one or two files in a game, then disappear for the rest of the franchise.
Christine was one, Spencer was not.
And Alex was one too.

The end.

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You keep using the word "logic" but I don't think you know what it means. You're barely stringing a point together and keep using that excuse to hide the fact that your point is lacking.

How do you know Alex was only meant to appear in files? Christine is the opposite, she was already a character and she already appeared in a story. The files merely referenced the story.

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You keep using the word "logic" but I don't think you know what it means. You're barely stringing a point together and keep using that excuse to hide the fact that your point is lacking.

Sure, Mr. Educated Guesses.

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Sure, Mr. Educated Guesses.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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How do you know Alex was only meant to appear in files? The files were a setup for Alex's appearance. Christine is the opposite, she was already a character and she already appeared in a story. The files merely referenced the story.

Except it took 5 years for her to finally show up as an actual character.
By the time they've decided to include Billy, Dario and Jill in RE2 for N64, the script for RE0 was complete and RE3 was about to be released.
This is an entire different case for Alex, they've just inserted her there and forgot about her by the next game.

And if that's the case for Christine, then sorry. Doesn't exclude she doens't show up in anything else than the radio drama, which wasn't even released in the US.

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The length of time doesn't matter one single bit. Game development is not quick and different writers worked on BIO5 and BIO6. Spoiler:

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Alex's writer returns in REV2.

Same reason Yasuhisa Kawamura was not allowed to write about Rebecca in BIO3.

Spencer didn't show up in anything but beta and Japanese material for the first five years the series existed. Which coincidentally makes him even less of a character at that time than Alex was in BIO5 going by your goofy logic, at least Alex was mentioned in-game.

If they're mentioned at all, they are "actual" characters. They exist in the series universe, and that's all they need. That's all there is to it.

"Wasn't released in the US" is completely irrelevant. CAPCOM gives zero fucks about the US when it comes to story.

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That's bullshit, REV2 has different writers. Who's the writer you're talking about?

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That's bullshit, REV2 has different writers. Who's the writer you're talking about?

Tsukasa Takenaka. He wasn't lead writer on BIO5 either.