Absolutely Worthless

[Weed]

I'm sorry, but in my opinion Resident Evil 5... is Capcom taking a giant dump all over the fans of Resident Evil in the days before Resident Evil 4.

I've been playing Resident Evil games since the original one came out on the Playstation in 1996. I LIVED some of those moments over and over again in my mind. Resident Evil was designed to scare you... a LOT. Resident Evil was the definition of the Survival Horror genre, and the very reason many different Survival Horror games even exist today. Resident Evil > Resident Evil 2 > Resident Evil 3 > Resident Evil CV > Resident Evil REmake was the perfect evolution of a series in my eyes. Each game, although not perfect, continuously improve on what the previous game accomplished.

Resident Evil started it all. It's lines were memorably cheesy. Animations were clunky, and story was full of holes and quite thin... but it still scared those that played it for the first time.

Resident Evil 2 took eveything that the first game did right, and then did it all better. Dialog improved. Graphics improved. Story improved. Animations improved. Many consider RE2 to be the best game of the series.

Resident Evil 3 did everything Resident Evil 2 did, and also improved gameplay by adding quick 180 degree turns and the ability to dodge certain attacks (although the dodging system seemed to work only randomly). It also included epilogue files to keep gamers "in the loop" so-to-speak with the happenings of other characters from previous games.

Resident Evil CV took graphics to a 128 bit level (but that's about it =P)

Then there's the REmake of Resident Evil... the perfect evolution of the first game. The REmake was very spooky, it evolved controls with defense weapons and introduced one of the most infamous enemies of all time.. the Crimson Head. The Crimson Head was the perfect evolution of the Zombie. Zombies were slow and were getting kind of redundant, and then a Crimson Head slithers to life and rapidly attacks, catching the player off guard.

Then Resident Evil 4 started popping up. The beta versions were immensly impressive, maintaining that dark and horror-based atmosphere that everyone loved.

And then one day, it all got thrown out the window.

I don't consider Resident Evil 4 to be a bad game. It wasn't. It was fun and entertaining, and provided its own unique moments of gameplay... but I always thought of Resident Evil 4 as just a test. I felt like the creators were getting their feet wet with a radically new gameplay system and different enemies. You could say that the series kind of needed it... I BARELY made it through Resident Evil Zero. The controls that were so radical when they first showed up on the Playstation had really become clunky and burdening, putting many newcomers to the series off quite a bit.

And now there's this SHIT they call Resident Evil 5. If you put Killzone 2, Resistance: Fall of Man, Resident Evil 5 and Fallout 3 all on different screens and took away any characters or HUD systems, would you be able to point out which one is Resident Evil 5?

No.

That's the problem. Resident Evil 5 is another terrible clone of Resident Evil 4. Granted, the game isn't finished yet... but so many animations and sound effects haven't been replaced yet. Online Co-op is a step in the same direction. Not the right direction, not the wrong direction... the same direction... the same direction as every other end-of-the-world type game. They are all online, they are all based in urban settings... they all have various weapons to choose from and in some games they can be unrealistically upgraded... there's just nothing unique.

It's sad really... my most favorite game series of all time is another generic clone of <insert random war game here>.

I don't think I'll bother purchasing Resident Evil 5... hell, I won't even rent it.

What are your thoughts?

[rewak]

I completely agree. The effort that is going into RE5 is just nothing, it's just RE4 over again with online elements, thats is, and i didn't like RE4 much because it was just an action game, not a horror game which is what RE is and what it always has been.

[FeurMensch]

I like RE4 for what it is, but should have just been a sub-game and not cannon. It was too much of a departure for me from the old tank controls and camera angles that made me love RE. If anything, RE5 should be another side game that is a sequel to 4, not a "5". If they want to win, make a new RE game with a revamped control scheme (like Siren for PS3) and base it with Umbrella and monsters.

RE is not RE anymore, it's just like selling out to whats "in" these days. Capcom doesn't listen to fans and it tends to just pump out games they know will sell. RE4/5 feel like any other 3rd Person Shooter on the market today. Thanks for turning away fans Capcom....

[RE-Hiro]

mmm.. fisrt, ithink i agree with you in some points.

the original RE games and the REmake are the best!! i love how scare i was when i played the first time!! i even couldn't sleep thinking about the zombies and how to solve the puzzles.

when RE4 was released i was boubtful about the direction it took, it was too many action and too little survival horror. i didn't buy it when it came out.

i just stayed playing the old good RE games, but one good day i decided to try RE4 and i loved it, it was the game that make my friends liked the RE franchise.

but i have to disagree with the whole RE5 is trash.
i do believe that RE5 is far from the original formula, but is still good.
the graphics are really awesome, and yeah, maybe it looks a lot like RE4 but is still a RE game.

Maybe, you can call me a hopelessly devoted and faithful fan, cause i'm gonna play RE as long as i can!!!

[Bertha]

Games evolve with time. Capcom is simply doing what they feel needs to be done in order to keep a game popular with the growing gaming world. I've loved the series since 96 as well...though I would have loved to see 5 go in a different direction, I repsect Capcom's choices. I'll buy the game and play it, and then be able to make a better judgement about it.

[RE-Hiro]

I'll buy the game and play it, and then be able to make a better judgement about it.

totally fair and so true!!!!

[rewak]

I'll still get it, but purely so i can continue following the story. I played through RE4 once, tried again and just got bored half way through because it was so linear, i'm expecting this to be the same so the replay value is 0, the only thing this has going for it is the continuation of the story.

[Stars1356]

I'm really disappointed with RE 5 because it looks like a RE 4 clone. It looks as though they are rehashing ideas that were created in RE 4 especially the enemies. I'm still going to get the game because like many I've stuck with the series threw the good and the bad. My only hope is that the story is good.

[abbatoo]

As soon as I saw the title, I knew it was about RE5.
The funny thing is that I really wanted to see new info/videos of this but after seeing the new trailer I'm just not hyped for this game.
It's sad to see that it's pretty much a rehashed, albeit a nicer looking version of 4 (and I liked RE4). The gameplay, to me, feels tired even though this is just the second game in the series that uses it (probably because I've played Gears and lots of other games with similar mechanics since 2004)
I don't know, maybe RE4 spoiled me and I expected too much of the sequel but until I see some fresh and exciting gameplay and 'old school' story elements I just can't be bothered about this game.

Well, it seems that Silent Hill: Homecoming (yipee ) and Siren: New Translation are the only (horror) games left to look forward to.

P.S.: I REALLY hope that most of those old animations, sounds we saw/heard in the videos are just placeholders.

[Darkmoon]

I'm in agreement. While RE4 and, from the look of it RE5, are good games they're not Resident Evil. RE4's plot was so disconnected from the rest of the series that I still honestly feel it would have been better to start a new, seperate series. There is nothing Resident Evil about RE4 bar it's title and two characters.

RE5 looks to be continuing the trend. The promise of Wesker suggests the storyline will be closer to the main storyline...but I honestly half expect Wesker's involvement to be either a new Seperate Ways thing when Sheva is revealed to be his mole in the BSAA or a redo of his CV apperance, where he's there to grab the sample. Either will mean the story isn't going to be much closer to the main story than RE4 unless the main enemy is Spencer.

While RE4 is a great game, and RE5 is bound to be as good if not better, I can't help but feel that with so little connecting it to RE as a whole that it wasn't a real shame that 3.5 was cancelled. I still hope that a more true sueccesor than RE4&5 and Umbrella Chronicles will eventually arrive...but if I hold my breath I supect I'll regret it.

[Weed]

Games evolve with time. Capcom is simply doing what they feel needs to be done in order to keep a game popular with the growing gaming world. I've loved the series since 96 as well...though I would have loved to see 5 go in a different direction, I repsect Capcom's choices. I'll buy the game and play it, and then be able to make a better judgement about it.

Yes, games do evolve with time. That's not the issue I have. I think we can all agree if the control scheme of the old RE games remained this far, Capcom may have a very difficult time profiting on the games released.

The issue I have is that Capcom is not putting anything unique into this game. The director/producers studied Resident Evil 4... and studied sales of the game. They only conceptualized what sells. When the REmake info was being released for the first time back in '01 and RE Zero in '02, everyone was anticipating its release. I (and many others) would ritually check certain websites to see if any new information is released, and when it was, my heart would race with anticipation.

With Resident Evil 5's information release... I don't even flinch. Someone tells me a new trailer is released for Resident Evil 5 and I say "Eh... I'll watch it tonight" instead of rushing over to my computer to watch it as quickly as I could.

It's like the soul of Resident Evil is gone... they're just milking a cash cow at this point to sell as much as they can. The only person that ever really seemed to take risks and evolve the game was Shinji Mikami.

So, yes, games do evolve. But going from Resident Evil 4 to Resident Evil 5 isn't an evolution... it's a lateral transition. Of all the trailers and screenshots release so far, there's nothing in this game that hasn't already been done in half a dozen other games, including Resident Evil 4.

[Helegad]

You said it, Weed.

If it comes out for PC, I'll give it a try, but fuck it otherwise. The PC port better not be another RE4 disaster, or someone's gonna get a kick in the nuts.

[Gradon]

The time and effort you put into this thread is remarkable, kudos to you, and I agree with you.
Everyone knows RE4/5 isn't/won't be a bad game, just a bad RE.

'Hey did you hear?'
'What?'
'The new gaming series Vinyl has teleporter suites!'
'Woah! We should totally use that for Sheeva!'

And you can guess what goes on from there.
Oh well, this is Capcom we're talking about.
Since when did they do anything for the devoted fans?

P.S Why has the , and emotion changed?

[Sonicboy 101]

I don't really care as long as it's a good game and I get my moneys worth.

[TheSelfishGene]

I'll play it before I judge it.