Absolutely Worthless

[Darkmoon]

For me? About twenty five minutes but, to be fair, I'd just woken up and the caffiene hadn't hit my blood stream yet. I can type unwholesomely fast when I have both eyes open.

[Gradon]

B.R.A.V.O.
You just summed up, why RE5 will most probably be another RE4.
You put alot of effort into that. XD Well done.
I agree with you on alot of points, or 100%!

[Nomad9026]

Yes now I see that the creature in the trailer is an elgigante, but for some reason it will be 2 times biger, even more, as it seen on the 3rd walpaper with production notes, you will fight it wile driving a hamve and using a minigun, I think it will be just like the shagohod battle in MGS3. Anyway lets hope for the best.

[Chimera]

Great post, Darkmoon! I pretty much agree with everything you just said. I've now had a chance to go back and watch all of the E3 trailers and gameplay videos several times over, and to be perfectly honest, they give me a headache. It's nothing but constant explosions and gunfire. What the hell happened to the Resident Evil I used to know and love? Rather than just echo what Darkmoon stated so eloquently, I'm instead going to try and focus on a few positive things.

There have been some vague references made to RE: Code Veronica. If they can somehow connect Africa with Antarctica, I'll be very happy, and while it certainly wouldn't have been my first choice, I'm okay with "Kijuju" being the place where Ashford, Marcus, and Spencer first discovered the Progenitor virus. (If, of course, this turns out to be true.) The mention of volcanic activity in the region, the underground caverns, and the apparent strip-mining operation all give me reason for hope.

This is just pure speculation on my part, but given the focused attention that they've placed on the "Executioner" thus far, is it at all possible that Capcom might be trying to connect the Progenitor virus and Las Plagas to the NE-Tα "Nemesis" parasite? I realize that there has been endless conjecture over this very subject ever since the release of RE4, and that most of the similarities between the Plagas and Nemesis have been largely discredited, but who knows? Perhaps Capcom still has a few tricks up their sleeve. They did, afterall, catch us a bit off-guard with their Tyrant "cloning" program in The Umbrella Chronicles. Toss in Sherry Birkin for good measure, and maybe we'll have something.

Just to be clear, I'm certainly not advocating anything I just said, but at this point, I'll take whatever I can get. I can understand why some people feel that the new direction this series has taken might be a good thing. I have nothing against them whatsoever. I'm just tired of Capcom shitting all over those of us who made this franchise a big-time success in the first damn place.

Here's to Comicon and Resident Evil: Degeneration! I can't wait! Cheers!

[Stars_g36]

RE4 Recycling?? Hello what about RE1 RE2 RE3 RECV ect...they were all simular in how they were played...WTF is with people, RE5 looks so sick, garuntee its going to be the game of the year when it comes out just like Resident Evil 4.

[Darkmoon]

Naturally the old RE games did some recyling. There supposed to be the same monsters. It wouldn't make any sense for them to be different now would it? Whereas in RE5 they're supposed to be a new strain of monsters, not Las Plagas. At the very least it's likely to be Las Plagas mixed with something else. Yet they hold wrenches in exactly the same way some Spanish villagers carry an axe? They fight exactly the same way, running up and then advancing slowly so as to provide a better shot? And El Gigante, a monster specially grown, I believe, happens to have returned?

If RE5 was similar to RE4 there wouldn't be a problem. However, if you swapped Chris' skin for Leon's and villagers for Ganado's you wouldn't see much difference so far. Hammer man is new, and Sheva of course. Although I doubt Hammer is too different from the good Doctor and Sheva just means an extra AI controlled gun.

It's the fact that the enemies are reskinned Ganados when, according to what we know, they aren't ganados along with the new additions that seem to be, 'Yes, God YES, Shoot more! More guns! MORE SHOOTING!' that upset people...since the game is supposed to be an evoloution of RE4, not a clone.

No one denies the game will be a great action game. I'm sure it'll play wonderfully, and yes, win Game of the Year after Game of the Year. But I don't play RE to play action. As my wonderful custom title says I'm old school. I play to be scarred shitless. More guns? More enemies? Blargh, says I...and a lot of fans agree with me. RE isn't about gunning down foe after foe. It's about fear.

Or, rather, it was. RE4 changed that and RE5 is going to stay the same, thanks to all those Game of the Year awards.

Of course, the reason I hate the RE4 recylcing is because the Ganado's are dumb as hell. At least zombies moved in as fast as they could. They didn't run up, stop a few feet away, and then slowly walk up to you.

Even the story line has been well and truly put on the back burner, if RE4 is any indication, but as I said above I do have some hopes that the game not be how it appears now. I'm just not holding my breath.

[rewak]

RE4 Recycling?? Hello what about RE1 RE2 RE3 RECV ect...they were all simular in how they were played...WTF is with people, RE5 looks so sick, garuntee its going to be the game of the year when it comes out just like Resident Evil 4.

Probably. RE4 was well received and critically acclaimed. So by doing the exact same game again with different characters will probably mean it'll be GOTY again. Hell GTA does it every few years

[Itashious_boy]

ok so its just another opinions thread, but i think ive said this also before, but some people don't think that maybe the original script writers for RE had the plan of going off a bit but some how all these different monsters somehow tied in with what is really going on, i really think its rediculous when someone wants to be aggravated about something when the story isnt even over with yet... but thats just me...

[Darkmoon]

Well, we know there is no over reaching story plotted from the first game. Mostly due to the retcon that happens so often, and that one of the reason RE 1.5 was scrapped because it's plot would have led the story to a conclusion at game 3. And the three or four version of RE4, of course.

Honestly, I doubt Capcom have any idea where the story is going. Which is part of the problem, really. There is no over reaching storyline for Resident Evil. There are simply continuing chapters, some done well, some not that add to the story. Problem is I doubt the same people have done all that plot writting and so the thing is a mish-mash of lore and once mentioned then forgotten plot points. RE4 and, possibly (but hopefully not) RE5 are driven more by the action than the story.

As to how RE5 will fit into the plot...it might, like RE4, barely touch on it or it might, as promised, reveal a great deal into the origins of Progenator. It's impossible to tell, yet, but my suspicion, based on the cut scenes we've got (which are extremely limited) is that this will be a local story, the same as RE4. Possibly it'll have far reaching issues if the main character dies from food poisoning by eating a random egg they found but in terms of the Resident Evil storyline it'll have a very limited impact.

Hope I'm wrong, though.

[Bertha]

Well, we know there is no over reaching story plotted from the first game. Mostly due to the retcon that happens so often, and that one of the reason RE 1.5 was scrapped because it's plot would have led the story to a conclusion at game 3. And the three or four version of RE4, of course.

Honestly, I doubt Capcom have any idea where the story is going. Which is part of the problem, really. There is no over reaching storyline for Resident Evil. There are simply continuing chapters, some done well, some not that add to the story. Problem is I doubt the same people have done all that plot writting and so the thing is a mish-mash of lore and once mentioned then forgotten plot points. RE4 and, possibly (but hopefully not) RE5 are driven more by the action than the story.

As to how RE5 will fit into the plot...it might, like RE4, barely touch on it or it might, as promised, reveal a great deal into the origins of Progenator. It's impossible to tell, yet, but my suspicion, based on the cut scenes we've got (which are extremely limited) is that this will be a local story, the same as RE4. Possibly it'll have far reaching issues if the main character dies from food poisoning by eating a random egg they found but in terms of the Resident Evil storyline it'll have a very limited impact.

Hope I'm wrong, though.

Which is why I actually anticipate the games' overall ending. Too many sequels really kill the story. I used to be a big Final Fantasy fan....and I stopped caring about 7 a long time ago and wish they would too.

I don't want RE to follow that same path: going back and rewriting the history with prequels, making too many follow ups, etc. Sure they keep making money and increasing fan base, but a good story always has a start, middle, and end. I'd love an end to see how it all plays out.

[Twist]

Personally, I think Biohazard should of ultimatly ended with "Last Escape".

I made a world up within my opinion, it consists of:

BH: Zero never happening.

BH1 [Original only].

BH2.

BH3: Last Escape.

BH: Outbreak # 1.

BH: Outbreak # 2.


There all I consider true BH games. I could'nt stand Code: Veronica, either. It felt quite watered-down to me for some reason. Maybe it was the graphics.

[The Dude]

I really think I was on to something when I made that joke RE1/RE5 picture *rolls eyes then dies*

[BLSR1]

Why all the hate for RE5?

Can't you all just wait until you play the game before you denounce it?

Capcom hasn't made a bad game in the main series and I doubt that they will disappoint this time. I saw the gameplay videos and got excited. I can't wait to play this game and I am sure that I will be playing it over and over again just like RE4.

As for all of you that complain about the secondary character. Its basically the same thing they did in RE0. It's just this time a friend can jump in and take control of her which should have been done in RE0.

[Nomad9026]

I'am agree, agree and one more time agree with you BLSR1, the problem is that most of the people that already hate re5 will hate it after release either, they won't change their opinion because all they whant to see are zombies and Umbrella. Damn, I like the original re conseption, but I like the new one either, yes it has it's disadvantages but I like it, and even if re5 will be as dumb as re4, but stil will be able to entertain me like it's predecessor then there will be nothing for me complain about.

[abbatoo]

...one of the reason RE 1.5 was scrapped because it's plot would have led the story to a conclusion at game 3...

I never could accept this as the main reason for canceling 1.5.
Let's say that 2 was released the way it was intended: Claire never existed, Umbrella was shut down. So?
The basic premise was the mostly same the final product and I'm guessing that Umbrella was still active in 1.5 even though they were officially finished.

What about the big sequels?

Resident Evil 3:
Could've gone down the same way it did in the original (Jill still in Raccoon City, tries to escape) with some minor alterations to the storyline (finds out Umbrella is still conducting experiments, maybe STARS knew it all along, wants to hunt them down).

Code Veronica:

This is where it would have gotten interesting. They might have introduced Claire for the first time, or could have made up a completely different sidestory starring Elza. Wesker could've come back (unless they recovered and ID'd his body in 1.5) with the same goal he had in the 'original' timeline.
Ashford Family, T-Veronica Virus? I wouldn't see any difficulty in including them.

Survivor:

Not many changes needed. Ark doing an investigation on Sheena Island regarding -the closed down- Umbrella at the request of Leon, assumes the identity of Vincent to get access to incriminating evidence. The real Vincent finds out about this, leaks the virus across the island to save his ass, etc, etc.

Resident Evil 4:

Leon works for the president, Ashley kidnapped. Almost nothing has to be changed (with the exception of maybe Ada/Linda and Wesker).

Resident Evil 0:

Before the mansion incident. Not much to say here.



Basically, that's it. Sure things might have went a completely different way than what I've written but I'm sure Capcom wouldn't have allowed a cash cow to be killed off just because the developers wanted it to.

I'm guessing it was a mix of the other possibilities we've heard before (graphics too bland, too many new ideas in one game).