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  • #91
    Originally posted by TheBatMan View Post
    Yeah i know, but that was actually a translation error. The original version the report is written by an unnamed UBCS member.

    But who's listening to that eh? I think Nicholai should remain alive too and should have been Krauser in RE4 for me.
    Survivor is riddled with translation errors, but i wud take the english version as canon over the japanese version.

    The jap version has the UT Commander as HUNK, Hypnos Tyrant is merely called Super Tyrant. Hypnos as a term does not appear.

    basically wat im saying is that the translations errors if u will have sometimes more merit than the original source material

    @ChrisRedfield29: wat?

    wats difficult to understand? Chris v wesker, Chris wins, wesker dies. End of game. After credit, we see Spencer in his wheelchair with bodyguards either Ivans or maybe even HUNK (seeing as how he wud have been unemployed) they pick up weskers body and walk off. Easy

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    • #92
      Yeah, i still count him as alive but i doubt capcom will ever bring him back which is a shame as he was a good character.
      In one of the early beta builds of code veronica Nicholai was piloting the chopper that shoots at Claire in the intro.
      "I've got 100 cows."
      "Well I've got 104 friends."

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      • #93
        Well, that's not too surprising I suppose. As I understand it Code: Veronica was taking much too long so they built RE3 using elements that could be spared from CV, both to reduce CV's production time and get out a third Resident Evil game. Nicholai could well have been a CV character originally.

        Or at least, that's what I was told many, many moons ago.

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        • #94
          If Wesker dies, who do we have left to carry on the role of antagonist? Nicholai. I can see him as an international arms dealer, selling Umbrella's secrets and bioweapons to rogue states and terrorist organisations. He never cared much about Umbrella, and it would work since Nicholai was motivated almost entirely by greed. It's also a great way to reintroduce Carlos, make it into a sidequel. More plot for us, more cash for Capcom. It's economically viable.
          See you in hell.

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          • #95
            Yeah i know, but that was actually a translation error. The original version the report is written by an unnamed UBCS member.
            Can someone please provide evidence of this.
            This issue has come up a few times recently and I've asked before but always get ignored.
            Without proof, it could just be a repetitive, regurgitated myth...

            It says "U.B.C.S." even in the Japanese file, so that's not in question.
            Nicholai is shown in RE3 sending reports to an unknown Umbrella HQ.
            So on Sheena Island, at an Umbrella HQ, we have reports from Raccoon City during the time of the Outbreak and the Nemesis rampage.
            Unless the entire file is 'mistranslated', it is obvious from the content that the UBCS member was a leader. He talks about the sacrifice of other UBCS members to obtain combat data.
            Even without the name Nicholai (if it's true the original file dosn't have it) it's still very obvious that it had to be Nicholai. If not, who the hell was it? Another UBCS leader, who also happened to be sending off secret reports?

            It's not the only connection with the main games. The reason Ark (a journalist) was on Sheena Island was because his "Good Friend Leon", tipped him off about the Umbrella facility there.

            Survivor is canon and the reports were sent by Nicholai. That's that. Case closed.

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            • #96
              I still see potential for Spencer to become the new anarchy of the villain of the series, although where the approach the resident evil team is going, it looks dim; however I see full potential of his insurrection upon the world. I wonder if it is possibly of him to clone himself and have a younger self with his whole conscious and meme, the world will whisper a bitter whimper of help once we hear his laughter. But that’s just me, but I think Capcom can still have a few tricks up their sleeve to blow us away.

              As for the Nicholai subject, there is a report from Sergie sent to him with a codename that seems of him having a much more important role than just being a hired mercenary of being a umbrella supervisor. As Skunky said, Survivor is canon and the reports were sent by Nicholai so it is in question, I just hope someone can bring up some good questions on the matter.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Neptune View Post
                Survivor is riddled with translation errors, but i wud take the english version as canon over the japanese version.

                The jap version has the UT Commander as HUNK, Hypnos Tyrant is merely called Super Tyrant. Hypnos as a term does not appear.

                basically wat im saying is that the translations errors if u will have sometimes more merit than the original source material
                Refering to the Official Japanese Gun Survivor guidebook, the UT Commander is called Under Taker Commander. The others are called Under Take Unit.
                That's the heading to their paragraph. In the body it says "Umbrella Trashsweeper".

                And Hypnos Tyrant is listed as Hypnos-T type.

                I'm not sure about in game (I have the game, but no where near enough patience to stick through it), but these names are used in Japanese.
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by TheSelfishGene View Post
                  Refering to the Official Japanese Gun Survivor guidebook, the UT Commander is called Under Taker Commander. The others are called Under Take Unit.
                  That's the heading to their paragraph. In the body it says "Umbrella Trashsweeper".

                  And Hypnos Tyrant is listed as Hypnos-T type.

                  I'm not sure about in game (I have the game, but no where near enough patience to stick through it), but these names are used in Japanese.
                  Ah right, my mistake then, i had translations from Colvin that suggested otherwise!

                  i wud stil submit that the english version takes precedence in this case, as i want Nicholai to survive! as mentioned by other peeps here, its the UC ending as well.

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                  • #99
                    Nicholai would make a great replacement for Wesker, I agree.

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                    • Originally posted by Helegad View Post
                      Nicholai would make a great replacement for Wesker, I agree.
                      I always wanted to see the relationship between Hunk and Nicolai, I am sure there can be some tension between the two from their own ideologies of working for Umbrella and their own backgrounds could easily clash. Perhaps we will see a few surprises in this upcoming title.

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                      • I would be suprices if Hunk took Wesker's place if he dies in this game of any future one's to come.

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                        • I don't think that killing Wesker is a bad idea, it's preaty logic. And he is my favourite by the way (I like him more than TOFU, but don't say anything to TOFU) But I really want it to be something epic. AND, it would be cool if in RE5 there would be a bad ending, like in remake.
                          "Barry never vanished from the series. It was the series that vanished from Barry. He's inside all of us. " (C) Smiley

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                          • I would personally be upset if Wesker is killed off after all the waiting and behind-the-scenes goings-on just to be replaced by Nicholai who was barely in one game of the series and hasn't been mentioned otherwise.

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                            • Nicholai was also in Outbreak and mentioned in Survivor. So technically he's been in 3 games

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                              • He was also mentioned in UC of course.

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