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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jill's Boob View Post
    Exactly. That's why I doubt the "Mystery Woman" is Ada. The "Mystery Woman" is someone that would be recognized otherwise, within the realm of the game.
    Unless Ada is hiding her identity because of Wesker?

    Its not unrealistic to think that Ada has somehow infiltrated Tricell if she is following up The Organisations requests to keep tabs on Wesker. Obviously Wesker is after her because of her betrayal and so it would make perfect sense for her to disguise herself. Everyone keeps saying that birdwoman is infected with something but we haven't seen any evidence to suggest this. Plus she seems to have athleticism similar to Ada.
    I don't think it is Jill. If Wesker had brainwashed her, why would he cover her up? If i were Wesker id flaunt her out in the open just to piss Chris off even more!
    If it is indeed a returning character than my money is definitely on Ada. Now that the RE5 infection has been confirmed as an advanced form of Las Plagas, she has to be involved somehow as she had the only sample. It would be pretty lame for them just to find a new strain in Africa.
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    • #17
      Well, seeing as the masked "Mystery Woman" works for Wesker, I'm sure he knows her identity (thus it is NOT Ada). Wesker can easily keep tabs on anyone, as evidenced many times throughout this series. There's no way Ada has sneakily taken a position with Wesker, where he would be unaware of who was working with him.

      Ada is a Leon plot device, so I am fairly certain she will not be making an appearance in RE5.

      As for why the masked woman is wearing a mask...well, it is also a plot device. Mainly to keep the player wondering who she is. She is someone we'd recognize (and Chris, since we control him) so that is why her identity remains concealed.
      Last edited by Jill's Boob; 11-12-2008, 04:25 PM.

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      • #18
        Mystery Woman might be just a damngod brand new character. I don't really want to see Ada in RE5 this time.

        I'm hoping girl in the tube and the one in red dress to be Sherry

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        • #19
          You could be right, JL - the mystery woman may just be a new character. That doesn't seem likely though, especially since her hidden identity, name ("Mystery Woman"), etc, all point to something important.

          Or, maybe Capcom is just trying to fool us into thinking these crazy thoughts that we've all had.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by TheBatMan View Post
            If it is indeed a returning character than my money is definitely on Ada. Now that the RE5 infection has been confirmed as an advanced form of Las Plagas, she has to be involved somehow as she had the only sample. It would be pretty lame for them just to find a new strain in Africa.
            I agree fully.

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            • #21
              But does the masked woman work for Wesker? She seems more involved with Excella and could have been at her side before Wesker decided to get directly involved.
              Whilst Wesker was making contact with Excella, Ada could have infiltrated Tricell, perhaps using her sample of las plagas as a bargaining chip here and became Excella's bodyguard. Then later down the line, Wesker becomes more directly involved with Excella. Excella would obviously not know about the ada/wesker relationship and so nothing is mentioned. Its feasible.
              Or...Wesker did indeed track Ada down, retreieved the sample and gave it to Excella, and Ada is now his brainwashed birdwoman assistant, who knows?
              She could be a totally original character, but that would be a bit of a let down after all the secrecy of her mask. The series needs a major death and towards the end of the game if Wesker discovers it is indeed Ada and kills her for her betrayal than that will suit me fine. I agree she is a plot device for leon which is the only missing link here, but she arguably has more important ties with Wesker now and this relationship is more important in terms of the overall plot.
              Last edited by TheBatMan; 11-13-2008, 07:12 AM.
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              • #22
                Wesker could have obtained another sample of Las Plagas - it's no telling how many "operatives" he has working for him all over the globe. Plus, he'd probably expect Ada to double-cross him; Wesker doesn't seem like the kind to be foolish enough to trust anyone other than himself 100%.

                It was also mentioned in an interview with one of the game's producers, or with one of the voice actors, that Wesker has a "sidekick." I'm assuming the sidekick is the Mystery Woman. And even if you are right - that Mystery Woman is Excella's aide - there's no way Wesker is going to just let a masked person wander around him with a concealed identity. He maintains his dominance by knowing things.

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                • #23
                  He did send his other operative, Krauser. But I think Ada genuinely fooled Wesker. But, at the same time she didn't. I think he's some what aware of her deceitfulness, but he wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt, given their long relationship. And she took advantage of that.

                  Unless, HUNK was involved "again". And actually retrieved a sample. Remember, Ada has the master plaga sample....whatever "master means". Maybe someone else came along and took a "plain" sample.

                  Also, we don't what Ada gave Wesker. No where did it say that she gave him a fake sample. She just referred to what ever it was, as a different present.
                  Maybe the organization ordered her to send him a bomb for working with Tricell, because they wanted to get rid of him.

                  Plus, what's all this about the organizaion must remain vigilant. Any vigilant organization in this case would try to get rid of Wesker. And I don't think Ada would have a problem with that.

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                  • #24
                    Really beasley? It didn't say that Ada gave him a fake sample? From all the talk on these boards, everyone seems to always think that she gave him a fake. The last time I played the story mode in RE4 was two years ago, so I can't recall. And I only have the NGC version, so I never got to play "Separate Ways," so I don't know her side of the story from that one, just the little bit from the end of "Assignment Ada."

                    Well, either way, Wesker somehow got his hands on a sample of Las Plagas, as the African villagers are some kinds of variants. Chris even says that "the villagers are acting like those Ganado detailed in the Kennedy report."

                    So I am going to stick with my assumption that Wesker had other operatives in the area. And it's not like Leon could have realistically killed every single infected person in Spain. Though he had enough ammo to lay waste to all of Europe.

                    Wesker could have easily been aware of Ada's motives and actions. The guy knows things. I mean, Wesker was watching the events in Spain from a satellite, wasn't he? And in REUC, he's able to listen to Chris & Jill's conversation in a helicopter. Wesker knows a lot of $#!*.
                    Last edited by Jill's Boob; 11-13-2008, 02:51 PM.

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                    • #25
                      So, just because everyone thinks that she gave Wesker a fake sample means that she did? Wow..

                      How can you even comment on this without even playing Seperate Ways. But, I guess from that statement it's not that hard to tell. Did you even watch Ada's Report, If you didn't i suggest you watch this portion.
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                      Once again, Ada never mentioned anything about a fake/false/synthetic sample. All she said was that she gave Wesker something different. For all we know she could have sent him annother sample of the G-Virus.

                      And your right, he does knows things. Watching her report says exactly that. Wesker probably already knew he wasn't going to get the sample. So he still let Ada retrieve it for him by doing all the dirty work. And now he has probably found an easier way of getting it Now that it's out of Spain. So he was probably waiting to steal it where he wouldn't get his hands dirty.
                      Last edited by beasley23803; 11-13-2008, 03:02 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Wesker just 'obtaining' another sample of Las Plagas would make the whole seperate ways scenario completely pointless really. Of course Wesker is clever and he knows things, but Ada isn't stupid either.
                        Whether Ada sent Wesker a fake sample or something else entirely is irrelevant, the outcome is the same; Wesker is expecting a viable plaga sample and he doesn't get one which is the point.
                        We know the new infection is an advanced form of las plagas, the first example of this being that the parasites sprout out in daylight, which they were unable to in RE4. After all of Seperate Ways and the Wesker/Ada relationship with their seperate motives, finding a new strain of Las Plagas in Africa would be lame as hell, the plot has to revolve around Wesker somehow getting hold of Ada's sample for it to work.
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                        • #27
                          I've seen the vids from "Ada's report" before, as Mr. Spencer sent me the links to watch them on youtube. I just didn't know if I was missing anything from the actual gameplay levels of "Separate Ways."

                          Well, since Ada sent Wesker a "present, like the Organization ordered," I think people correctly assume Wesker received a fake or altered sample of Las Plagas. If the Organization is trying to counter Wesker, than they'd be against him. Ada even states that she and Wesker are playing a game of "cat & mouse," so she is obviously against him as well.

                          It's all pretty simple.

                          As for this thread - "the boundaries of light & dark will be drawn" - I think it could be referring to the way that Chris is left disillusioned with his personal quest. He is striving to eradicate evil, but also at the cost of his friends & allies. Also, one of the early RE5 interviews stated that Chris struggles with the true motives of his cause, or the mission of the organization he works for. Does anyone remember that?

                          Plus, Wesker is probably thinking that he is in some strange way, helping the world with his research & testing. He says "Humans have come one step closer to their self-destruction and destroying the world. I'm saving it." That statement alone captures the essence of light & darkness, IMO.
                          Last edited by Jill's Boob; 11-13-2008, 03:25 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Whether Ada sent Wesker a fake sample or something else entirely is irrelevant, the outcome is the same; Wesker is expecting a viable plaga sample and he doesn't get one which is the point.
                            Exactly, that's my whole point. The fact that Wesker isn't getting what he thinks he is, is very interesting. It really makes me want to see the outcome of the Ada/Wesker situation. I really don't care how he got it. I just wan't to know what became of their relationship, now that Ada finally turned the tables and what he really plans to use it for.

                            I just think the light and darkness idea is proabbaly about a good character turning/doing something evil and vice versa.
                            Last edited by beasley23803; 11-13-2008, 03:31 PM.

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                            • #29
                              I agree Chris is definitely dissallusioned in his quest. He destroyed Umbrella, yet all it has achieved has made Umbrella's weapons available to world terrorists. Jill's death from two years ago...no wonder he must be questioning wheather to carry on or not.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by beasley23803 View Post
                                Exactly, that's my whole point. The fact that Wesker isn't getting what he thinks he is, is very interesting. It really makes me want to see the outcome of the Ada/Wesker situation. I really don't care how he got it. I just wan't to know what became of their relationship, now that Ada finally turned the tables and what he really plans to use it for.

                                I just think the light and darkness idea is proabbaly about a good character turning/doing something evil and vice versa.
                                Indeed, that is why im hoping Ada is the birdwoman. What would be even more interesting is that Wesker knew it was Ada, yet was biding his time to act...therefore both would believe they were in control of the situation.
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