Albert Wesker: Virus confusion

[Stars1356]

Yea Capcom doesn't even know what he was injected with. The fact is he was dead until RE CV. I was under the impression that it was a variant of the G-Virus because thats what Birkin was working on. Hopefully RE 5 can close this plothole.

[Sina]

Concidering Las Plagas has been around since the 1700's or whatever it was, it wouldn't be impossible that the new organization along with Birkin secretly worked on a version of a master Las Plagas sample, and that's what Wesker injected. Him and Saddler share some similar traits afterall. That theory produces a few questions aswell, though.

[WeskerSexyCheez]

Possible, though. In one of Ada's reports, she talks about how Luis tried to email an old college friend who had been dead for some time for help, right? Do you think it was talking about Birkin?

[Bertha]

Possible, though. In one of Ada's reports, she talks about how Luis tried to email an old college friend who had been dead for some time for help, right? Do you think it was talking about Birkin?

I'm doubt it was Birkin. He wasn't exactly a friendly guy when it came to his research. Annette and Wesker were the only ones he seemed to really like or tolerate. And anyone involved in BOW research would have known that survivors from Raccoon were non-existant. However, there is the chance that Luis's friend could have been Ada's lover John. In the end though...it really doesnt matter since the mysterious friend was dead, and Luis was killed too.

[TheSelfishGene]

Miller infects himself with the pure G-virus, but we don't know if he is somehow injured wile doing it... we can ask Gene about it

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From memory his initial mutation is spontaneous. It is not triggered by trauma.
He changes form after he is injured.

Keep in mind guys that cellular death is not the same as the death of the organism. So as PO was saying, that a product of cell death / trauma must activate G virus. Maybe lysosomes? But now that I think about it. It could be anything from inside the cell that's not meant to be on the outside . A cytoplasmic protein or anything really.

[WeskerSexyCheez]

I'm doubt it was Birkin. He wasn't exactly a friendly guy when it came to his research. Annette and Wesker were the only ones he seemed to really like or tolerate. And anyone involved in BOW research would have known that survivors from Raccoon were non-existant. However, there is the chance that Luis's friend could have been Ada's lover John. In the end though...it really doesnt matter since the mysterious friend was dead, and Luis was killed too.

True, but John seems like a pretty strange guy to reference... I still think it could have been Will, considering Luis was a pretty good researcher and Will would certainly be interested in Luis' findings. I'm not entirely sure it was widely known that Will was dead either.

I'm edging towards thinking that whatever Wesker has, it isn't really the G-virus at all, considering Will goes into a big rant about not leaving his research behind and needing to complete the G-Virus in zero. And we know that some time in zero, Wesker obtains a virus from William. I highly doubt that it could be an unfinished G-Virus, as Wesker is obviously superior to what Will turned into. It doesn't make sense...

[Bertha]

True, but John seems like a pretty strange guy to reference... I still think it could have been Will, considering Luis was a pretty good researcher and Will would certainly be interested in Luis' findings. I'm not entirely sure it was widely known that Will was dead either.

I'm edging towards thinking that whatever Wesker has, it isn't really the G-virus at all, considering Will goes into a big rant about not leaving his research behind and needing to complete the G-Virus in zero. And we know that some time in zero, Wesker obtains a virus from William. I highly doubt that it could be an unfinished G-Virus, as Wesker is obviously superior to what Will turned into. It doesn't make sense...

Birkin really wasn't interested in much beside his G-virus. Through the records throught the games, we see how obsessed he was. I doubt he would have taken interest in plagas. It would have taken some time for the plagas to be excavated and experimented on...and if that was going on during 1998 or earlier, Birkin wouldn't have cared. He was far too involved with his own project.

Luis also wasn't the head researcher. He was just one of the lucky ones that lived because Saddler liked him. Keep in mind that Umbrella had facilities in Europe as well. Also something to remember is that there are other companies besides Umbrella. And again...for all we know it could just be some unnamed dead person (which is most likely the case). Remember....Capcom's plot holes are a fundamental element to the series.

[Helegad]

It was the W-Virus!

WESKER VIRUS!!!

Imagine a plague of that... now that would be a hard game.

[WeskerSexyCheez]

Remember....Capcom's plot holes are a fundamental element to the series.

They're amusing too~ ^^

I'm going to maintain that it's likely that Will was who it was talking about. I wouldn't say he was interested just in the G-Virus. The truth is, William was probably the most human of the Umbrella higher-ups. He married, fathered a child, and was, according to Wesker, childishly jealous of Alexia being as sucessful as him younger. This could point to the fact that if Luis discovered something interesting, Birkin would want to be involved. Also, he was in on the murder of James Marcus and took over his research, research that produced the T-Virus from the Progenitor virus. If anything theatened William at all, he'd jump on it.

[xfactor]

The webmaster(s) for ResidentEvil.com don't know as much about the series as most hardcore fans do

The 'timeline' they got on residentevil.com a while ago wasn't even written by them. I remembered very clearly that I read it on GamePro before it appeared on the site.

[Project Omega]

Yeah, I remember that as well.

[Sina]

I doubt he would have taken interest in plagas. It would have taken some time for the plagas to be excavated and experimented on...and if that was going on during 1998 or earlier, Birkin wouldn't have cared.

Las Plagas most likely didn't originate from Spain, and I'm sure the RE5 team will say that Las Plagas is connected to the progenitor virus and both came from Africa. Maybe the original 1700's Los Illuminados accidentally got a hold of/got infected by Las Plagas by bringing African slaves to their medieval Spanish dwellings, and that's how they all started up.

Keep in mind, Tricell has been in Africa for quite a while aswell, and if Las Plagas came from Africa it's likely they knew about it. And also, judging by WR2 it seemed that the European branch of Umbrella worked very separetely from the American branch, almost as two rival companies seeing as the American branch had to pull strings/exchange research to get a hold of Umb Europe's parasitic lifeform to make the Tyrant. So it's not impossible that some rogue European Umbrella guys, some Tricell guys and Wesker/Birkin were working together to become top dogs, and that's how Wesker's virus came about.

[WeskerSexyCheez]

Yeah... It seems really odd that even if you're not like a die-hard fan, you probably do know more about it than Capcom. ^^;

It's just how they are, I guess...

[Archelon]

It says in one of the files in Umbrella Chronicles that Wesker injected himself with a mutated strain of the T-Virus. Birkin apparently had several samples of this strain and had tested it on animals, but Wesker was the first human test subject. If I recall correctly, the virus had a 70% chance of reviving the host, a 20% chance of reviving the host with enhanced circulatory, muscular, skeletal, etc, systems, and a 10% chance of doing nothing at all, leaving the host dead.

If this was already explained, I apologize. I didn't exactly read through every post in this thread.

[Archelon]

That's a little too specific. The original file just says:

"The sample delivered is one of the mutant strains."

We don't know if it's from t or G, or from a different virus altogether.

Ah, okay. I was typing from memory.