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[Member_of_STARS]

So as long as it's explained by "lulz science did it" you're okay with it but just an ancient paraasite, that's no good?
Oh and can't forget Alexia happened to find a virus in an "anceint" queen ant which helped her make T-Veronica IIRC.

Youre new to RE communities. Where were you before 2004?

What made RE great in the first place was the ability to use reality to explain even the most unexplainable. Its not "just science", its a lot more interesting than that.

RE4 took it down a few hundred IQ notches and just went "lulz, parasites did it". Exactly the way you described it. It was never just science before that.

I dont even remember any theories with Plagas science other than "Whats Krausers arm?".

[Alexia_Ashford]

Alexia found the REMAINS of an ancient virus within a Queen Ant. The remnants of a virus within the gene of an animal is a lot more plausible than "lulz ther wuz a rele good paraiste here all along and no one knew bout it".

After discovering the remains of an ancient virus within the genes of a queen ant, I have been concentrating on the research of ants.

I have succeeded in creating an ideal virus by implanting the queen ant's gene into the mother virus that Spencer found.


She implanted the gene itself, and considering RE5 is supposed to be going back to basics and they've said it "relates to CV and its mentioning that Progenitor was discovered in Africa", it's likely to have a lot more to do with the main plotline.

I dont even remember any theories with Plagas science other than "Whats Krausers arm?".

And dog whistles.. :Re:

[Biohazard EX]

Alexia found the REMAINS of an ancient virus within a Queen Ant. The remnants of a virus within the gene of an animal is a lot more plausible than "lulz ther wuz a rele good paraiste here all along and no one knew bout it".

After discovering the remains of an ancient virus within the genes of a queen ant, I have been concentrating on the research of ants.

I have succeeded in creating an ideal virus by implanting the queen ant's gene into the mother virus that Spencer found.


She implanted the gene itself, and considering RE5 is supposed to be going back to basics and they've said it "relates to CV and its mentioning that Progenitor was discovered in Africa", it's likely to have a lot more to do with the main plotline.

Of course, chances are, that means that they're going to try and link Las Plagas with the Progenitor Virus somehow. And oh god forbid, that would be worse than introducing Las Plagas in the first place.

[Becky's Butt]

Youre new to RE communities. Where were you before 2004?

No RE-exclusive forums. Just a few other game forums that are gone now.

RE4 took it down a few hundred IQ notches and just went "lulz, parasites did it". Exactly the way you described it. It was never just science before that.

Um yes it was. It was "lulz science" that created the T-Virus and G-Virus. Neither of those make sense scientifically. The T-Veronica Virus made things even more absurd with mind-controlling tentacles to attack your enemies and being able to revert mutations by not wanting to hurt someone....
Nothing in RE can work in real science. Viruses and mutations just don't work the way RE says they do.

Also, it's not dog whistles. Why do you keep obsessing over that, Alexia?

[Alexia_Ashford]

Of course, chances are, that means that they're going to try and link Las Plagas with the Progenitor Virus somehow. And oh god forbid, that would be worse than introducing Las Plagas in the first place.

Probably. They've already said it's not Las Plagas and not a virus, but "something inbetween".. That GamePro magazine said it's Las Plagas as well. I don't think it is Las Plagas, they look different. Probably Las Plagas/spliced with Progenitor.

[Biohazard EX]

Probably. They've already said it's not Las Plagas and not a virus, but "something inbetween".. That GamePro magazine said it's Las Plagas as well. I don't think it is Las Plagas, they look different. Probably Las Plagas/spliced with Progenitor.

They're trying to do damage control that Mikami caused with RE4. But still...
Resident Evil 5 is like trying to clean up Hiroshima on August 7th, 1945. They can TRY, but... Damage is done.

[Becky's Butt]

Yep. Gaining millions of dollars and fans is some damage. However can they recover?

[Alexia_Ashford]

Yep. Gaining millions of dollars and fans is some damage.

They gained millions of dollars and fans with the original series. They could have gained more fans and re-invented the series in a lot of different ways, but they chose to sell out the fanbase which gave the series its budget to begin with.

[Member_of_STARS]

No RE-exclusive forums. Just a few other game forums that are gone now.

Explains your next response then. You were never around when RE boards were filled with theories and speculations regarding not only REs plot, but the science behind it?

Um yes it was. It was "lulz science" that created the T-Virus and G-Virus. Neither of those make sense scientifically. The T-Veronica Virus made things even more absurd with mind-controlling tentacles to attack your enemies and being able to revert mutations by not wanting to hurt someone....
Nothing in RE can work in real science. Viruses and mutations just don't work the way RE says they do.

It doesnt have to be realistic, techno thrillers never are. Ever read Jurassic Park? They go into detail about how they were able to clone the dinos. Its how you close the gap between whats realistic and real, and whats fictional. This is how RE theories worked. It took what was in the game and connected it with reality using "what ifs". The whole idea was that viruses are actually able to change cells, and thats just one of the many. Member "Project Omega" had a tonload of those, and he (I think) was studying something something along the lines at the time. He was also the one who connected Tyrants massive claw not as a weapon, but as a necessary organ.

Theres never been "its just science, so we can dismiss it". Using science, everything was explained in RE, which is a great part of the reason why RE boards were so crowded. Speculations and theories were abundant.

Even Alexias 2nd form tentacle attacks could be explained.

Dont put "science" down because you lack the arguments.

Yep. Gaining millions of dollars and fans is some damage. However can they recover?

Vast majority of the fans are complete idiots who add nothing to community. Their only success was monetary. No substance.

[Biohazard EX]

The thing is, though... Resident Evil was NOT doing bad at all.. I mean, The GameCube was not a very poplar system, and still, REmake and RE0 sold well over a million copies for it. It was the console that didn't give them sales as desirable as they used to be.
If REmake had been made for the PS2, it would have probably sold at least 3 million copies by now.

[Member_of_STARS]

The thing is, though... Resident Evil was NOT doing bad at all.. I mean, The GameCube was not a very poplar system, and still, REmake and RE0 sold well over a million copies for it. It was the console that didn't give them sales as desirable as they used to be.
If REmake had been made for the PS2, it would have probably sold at least 3 million copies by now.

Outbreaks, Survivors, even CVX didnt fare all too good. CAPCOM was actually in a bad fiscal shape. The franchise WAS doing terrible.

[Biohazard EX]

Outbreaks, Survivors, even CVX didnt fare all too good. CAPCOM was actually in a bad fiscal shape. The franchise WAS doing terrible.

Yeah, well, no offense to either of those games, but... Code Veronica had dated graphics (still, it became a greatest hit). Outbreaks had weak offline mode (and back then, not many people were willing to pay for a network adapter), and Dead Aim I finished in less than 2 hours my first playthrough. None of them were nearly as good or as scary as Remake.

[Becky's Butt]

It doesnt have to be realistic, techno thrillers never are. Ever read Jurassic Park? They go into detail about how they were able to clone the dinos. Its how you close the gap between whats realistic and real, and whats fictional. This is how RE theories worked. It took what was in the game and connected it with reality using "what ifs". The whole idea was that viruses are actually able to change cells, and thats just one of the many. Member "Project Omega" had a tonload of those, and he (I think) was studying something something along the lines at the time. He was also the one who connected Tyrants massive claw not as a weapon, but as a necessary organ.

That's harsh. Comparing Crichton's brilliant effort to mold fact with fiction to make it all believable in the book to "we injected a plant with a virus and now it's all big and stuff"? Just harsh.

And I hear a lot about Omega's theories but I haven't seen any of them... Granted I don't know where to look.

Explains your next response then. You were never around when RE boards were filled with theories and speculations regarding not only REs plot, but the science behind it?

There's still topics about that. Saw a few of them on REHorror. RE4 didn't end theories about the science of the T-Virus.

Vast majority of the fans are complete idiots who add nothing to community. Their only success was monetary. No substance.

All fandoms have idiots. There's plenty intelligent people who like RE4. They just don't take it, or any RE game, as seriously as you all. That doesn't make them idiots.

[Member_of_STARS]

That's harsh. Comparing Crichton's brilliant effort to mold fact with fiction to make it all believable in the book to "we injected a plant with a virus and now it's all big and stuff"? Just harsh.

If you read Crichtons JP, the whole premise was taking DNA from insects caught in amber, extracting it from their blood, using the DNA from amphibia to "fill the gaps". Even now, this is impossible, but he goes further, uses plastic eggs and all that jazz and in the end, we have a dinosaur. The beauty was that while impossible, it was simple and could be connected to modern science and made sense of. This is exactly how RE works. Its impossible, but can be connected with modern science to make sense.

The T Virus was able to jump species and that was its entire point, also linked to viruses that jump species in our modern world aswell.

And I hear a lot about Omega's theories but I haven't seen any of them... Granted I don't know where to look.

Most of them were forum posts like these, but he used to talk about a project he had, throwing his theories into one site. They were impressive.

There's still topics about that. Saw a few of them on REHorror. RE4 didn't end theories about the science of the T-Virus.

Theres nothing left at reH, those what you saw were but mere shadows of what used to be there. The forums have been reset and jumping from server to server, with content gone at least 2 times that I remember of. Could be even more. If you missed them, its too bad, because they were interesting, written by people who knew the field.

All fandoms have idiots. There's plenty intelligent people who like RE4. They just don't take it, or any RE game, as seriously as you all. That doesn't make them idiots.

Except that theres abundance from RE4 fanbase. The guys who enjoyed the game and were savvy werent interested in joining the communities (I wonder why? Maybe because RE4 had nothing to offer, intellectually?) and those that did have put nothing on the table except for "OMFG LUUK ASHLEYS TITS!" threads.

[Darkmoon]

Well, I suppose the most telling fact about RE4 is the fact that it's are outnumbered so heavily on forums like these. I suspect it's because a lot of RE4 fans are on forums about more action like games, and most of the folk here are horror gamers. Not that the two are mutually exclusive, of course, but I don't think I've met a single guy who started with RE1 and has loved the series since then who has said: Resident Evil 4 is the best of the series and I love it more than the others.