The Central "Jill Valentine" Discussion Topic

[Dot50Cal]

Yeah, but theres not like you can discuss that for 1000 posts without running in circles. I really ought to give this entire topic a read some time.

[Darinl1979]

Yeah, but theres not like you can discuss that for 1000 posts without running in circles. I really ought to give this entire topic a read some time.

Well there was some other talk about Jill once the debate settled. I think arguments concerning her dress attire went on for pages and pages. Anytime you supposedly "kill" a popular character its going to spark discussion like this did.

[Sina]

Anytime you supposedly "kill" a popular character its going to spark discussion like this did.

Or when you change a characters hairstyle ever so slightly

[ValentineKnight]

not really I think....Maybe people are scared that Jill won't be recognise able anymore I dunno

[Zimdictive]

Well... nothing more to say than L2Spot a prostitute. You might embarrass yourself, kid. :3 Aaand, no, you wouldn't have to play RE1/Remake and 3, but it would damn well help. In the same way reading the Qu'ran before ridiculing traits of Islam would lend credence to the argument and make you appear less of a zealot.

Yeah, it's a wonder the post count reached this volume. Statistically speaking, the volume of posts discussing Jill would be of greater quantity than any other character, but I see no threads dedicated to other characters. I mean, I liked Rebecca too, she had guts. And Wesker and Barry were about the only two guys I didn't have a problem with, back in those age old days of Resident Evil games.

There is very little to say about Jill's very small role in RE5 (apart from that it was clichéd) so I guess the thread will die down.

[[STARS]TyranT]

I thought her voice actress was amongst the best in the game. Serious kudos go out to her.

[adamthegrave]

i really didnt like what they did with jill in this game too much of hollywood & games rips into this game RE4 was better

[Sina]

Well... nothing more to say than L2Spot a prostitute. You might embarrass yourself, kid. :3

Don't worry, I don't think I'll visit too many prostitutes to have that problem. Glad to hear you're confident in that area, though.

Anyway, by that I take it you approve of Jill's RE3 outfit and you thought it made sense? It's something obviously made to appeal to lonely 12 year olds. They went for "sexy" but it ended up "skanky and retarded given the situation". Hell, even Carlos thought she was a hooker.

Aaand, no, you wouldn't have to play RE1/Remake and 3, but it would damn well help. In the same way reading the Qu'ran before ridiculing traits of Islam would lend credence to the argument and make you appear less of a zealot.

Right, so, maybe you've played those games enough to where you're at a state of absolute blind adoration and worship for the wonderful and rich character of Jill Valentine, but I've played those games quite abit and I'm not nearly there yet. I don't particularly dislike the character, I just think pre RE5 Jill was a generic character with a generic personality. I liked the way she was handled in RE5, but then again anything other than same ol' pursuit of justice Jill would've been a step in the right direction.

Speaking of lending credence to your argument, instead of saying you disagree with me again, please explain why you disagree and why you think pre RE5 Jill was so awesome.

[[STARS]TyranT]

I actually love what they did with Jill in Resident Evil 5 in that they made her exactly like Chris: Unafraid, totally determined and absolutely commited to putting her life on the line for the mission. it must of seriously done a number on Chris' personality for Jill to 'die' for him. And that's what makes Jill and Chris great, they are simply, heroes.

[Zimdictive]

Don't worry, I don't think I'll visit too many prostitutes to have that problem. Glad to hear you're confident in that area, though.

Anyway, by that I take it you approve of Jill's RE3 outfit and you thought it made sense? It's something obviously made to appeal to lonely 12 year olds. They went for "sexy" but it ended up "skanky and retarded given the situation". Hell, even Carlos thought she was a hooker.


Right, so, maybe you've played those games enough to where you're at a state of absolute blind adoration and worship for the wonderful and rich character of Jill Valentine, but I've played those games quite abit and I'm not nearly there yet. I don't particularly dislike the character, I just think pre RE5 Jill was a generic character with a generic personality. I liked the way she was handled in RE5, but then again anything other than same ol' pursuit of justice Jill would've been a step in the right direction.

Speaking of lending credence to your argument, instead of saying you disagree with me again, please explain why you disagree and why you think pre RE5 Jill was so awesome.

Well, uh, she never did look like a prostitute to me. Curious costume design though, yes, but what are you, completely new to the world of multimedia and entertainment? Played any other games recently, watched any other films? Human popular culture is, regretfully, bathed in something luridly termed "fanservice". Besides, to turn your argument on it's head, I think her catsuit in RE5 was far more conspicuous. Which would have turned the most heads on a street? I don't think I have to answer that one for you. At least, I hope not.

*Heaves a massive sigh* And I have explained already what I see in her. Many times, in different words. I asked you to read earlier posts, but, eh, looks like you didn't. I'm not repeating myself for your benefit. Though there isn't much point in you reading it, because we seem to see completely different things in Jill.

To put it pleasantly, read/watch/play more, and learn what is and is not a cliché. For Jill is far from so in the sub genre of survival horror, and most particularly not in Remake. And, to lend some sort of weight to my words, what can I say? That I study psychology and literature? (And did, all those years ago, study media... :/)

[Darinl1979]

This sina person has douchebag troll written all over them. Mini skirt and tubetop is prostitute clothing? You need to get out more as I have friends that have those kind of clothing in their wardrobe and its far from prostitute clothing. You are just trying to reignite an argument for the sake of something to do. Nobody cares.

The demograph of the game was 18-24 male, so how do figure that it was targeted towards 12 year old boys? RE1 through 3 didnt have much character development as most of the development was done through files throughout the games. Jill was by far the most developed out of any of the main characters. Which isnt saying much but at least she got a Nemesis kill under her belt, which made RE3 a fascinating game.

[Rakkoon]

I am so sick of people calling Jill names because of her RE3 clothes. But I've said what I had to say about that already. The change of her hair is ridiculous. Just like 80% of RE5. But Jill's hair hardly matters anymore, since Resident Evil is officially dead now. Dead.

[[STARS]TyranT]

When Chris and Sheva are riding the large elevator down to find Jill, (after the U8 battle), if you check the screen Chris reads up information on Jill and it says that as a result of the treatment she's endured it has caused the loss of colour in her hair.

If you actually look at her hair after she's been demasked, you can see her brown roots returning. The whole blonde hair thing was a massive smoke screen I think to make us think the tube girl was Sherry.

[News Bot]

The change of her hair is ridiculous.

No it isn't. It's a side effect of her near-death and later experimentation, pigment abnormality. It's perfectly reasonable.

Judging from your avatar and signature, it would appear you're merely blinded by fanboyism.

[Darinl1979]

Well at least now people can bash Jill for something else besides her RE3 outfit. Up till now everyone who wasn't a Jill fan proclaimed "OMGZ JILLS A PROSTITUTE BECAUSE SHES WEARING A MINI SKIRT" and now you can throw in her hair color. I personally didn't mind the change, I wouldn't call myself a fan boy because I can recognize flaws such a her RE3 outfit. While it wasn't hooker-like it certainly didn't make sense for what she was doing. Personally I am more surprised that people aren't upset that her pixelated chest area is ruined by a scar.