The Central "Jill Valentine" Discussion Topic

[missvalentine]

love all of Jill's outfits and uniforms. but i think her STARS one is my favorite, and her BSAA outfit, then her police uniform in RE3, and i really really love what she's wearing in my sig, and i like what she's wearing in UC as well.

and yes her Delta Force outfit is a nod to her days in Delta Force.

also i really like that one of Jill in a black STARS uniform, it's lovely.

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2. Jill can't die unless she's naked.

this was just something i noticed, everytime Jill's life is in peril, she always narowly escapes death but loses an article of clothing in the process.

i mean, in RE5 Chris fires his pistol at her, she narrowly doges it, but her mask is shot off. then later when she and Chris are fighting, Chris is going to have to kill her is she keeps acting evil, then Jill rips her Shirt open revealing the druging thing, so Chris can save her.

in that add for the slot machine, Jill is hit by the Tyrant full force, enough to kill her, but all that happens is her skirt and top rip.

in the RE1 beta, Jill's model has her in her STARS outfit except her pants are ripped revealing her legs, so i assume she was attacked by a cerberus on the way to the mansion or something.

i haven't played UC yet, but i heard there was a cutscene where she is cornered by a zombie and then oral sex happens.

in the flashback in RE5 Jill pushes Wesker and herself out of a window. then in the files it is said they both survived but Jill was only just alive, then obviously Wesker undressed her and got into that suit sometime in the next few years and also did a number of experiments on her.

but in RE3, where she is already half naked, Nemesis gets her arm with a tentacle, i doubt that would have been the case if she was wearing proper clothes for the occasion.

so i assume, that if Jill ever does die, chances are she will have little to no clothing on at the time.

i just need to add a bit to this.

Jill has an appearance in a game called Under the Skin, and when she takes damage, guess what, her clothes fall of and she's left running around Raccoon City in her underwear.

also why would Jill leave Delta force at such a young age? was it because everytime she was shot at her clothes fell off?

also i have another theory about Jill and Chris.

Chris see's Jill as an authority figure.

i know there both the same rank, but i think Chris thinks of Jill as a sort of authority figure, kind of like how a husband would just say "Yes Ma'Am!" to everything his wife asked him to unless he wanted to get in trouble later.

i noticed this recently, because like people have said here, Chris doesn't like taking orders or authority figures. but yet twice now he has taken orders from Jill.

first in RE1/Remake, in Chris game right before the seconf Tyrant fight at the elevator, we hear the Tyrant roaring and waking up, Chris goes to hold it off but Jill tells him to go up and signal for Brad while she and Rebecca hold it off. Chris argued slightly but submited to her will and did what she said.

then later in RE5, Chris really really wants to talk to Jill after rescuing her, but she knows her needs to stop Wesker, so she orders him to go after him and complete his mission, Chris is reluctant but does it anyway.

so i assume that Chris see's Jill as a form of authority, and i like that.

[Darinl1979]

love all of Jill's outfits and uniforms. but i think her STARS one is my favorite, and her BSAA outfit, then her police uniform in RE3, and i really really love what she's wearing in my sig, and i like what she's wearing in UC as well.

and yes her Delta Force outfit is a nod to her days in Delta Force.

also i really like that one of Jill in a black STARS uniform, it's lovely.




i just need to add a bit to this.

Jill has an appearance in a game called Under the Skin, and when she takes damage, guess what, her clothes fall of and she's left running around Raccoon City in her underwear.

also why would Jill leave Delta force at such a young age? was it because everytime she was shot at her clothes fell off?

also i have another theory about Jill and Chris.

Chris see's Jill as an authority figure.

i know there both the same rank, but i think Chris thinks of Jill as a sort of authority figure, kind of like how a husband would just say "Yes Ma'Am!" to everything his wife asked him to unless he wanted to get in trouble later.

i noticed this recently, because like people have said here, Chris doesn't like taking orders or authority figures. but yet twice now he has taken orders from Jill.

first in RE1/Remake, in Chris game right before the seconf Tyrant fight at the elevator, we hear the Tyrant roaring and waking up, Chris goes to hold it off but Jill tells him to go up and signal for Brad while she and Rebecca hold it off. Chris argued slightly but submited to her will and did what she said.

then later in RE5, Chris really really wants to talk to Jill after rescuing her, but she knows her needs to stop Wesker, so she orders him to go after him and complete his mission, Chris is reluctant but does it anyway.

so i assume that Chris see's Jill as a form of authority, and i like that.

They are partners...friends...and probably even more then that. I don't think there is any authority over one between either of them. Chris listened to what she said simply because he knew she was right and its fairly obvious shes one of the few people Chris would have no problem listening to. I think they are both considered the same status in the BSAA, well not withstanding Jill's "deceased" status, they both were Original Eleven members.

[News Bot]

also why would Jill leave Delta force at such a young age? was it because everytime she was shot at her clothes fell off?

She was never in Delta Force. She received training akin to that of Delta Force. She was not an actual member.

i noticed this recently, because like people have said here, Chris doesn't like taking orders or authority figures. but yet twice now he has taken orders from Jill.

Once. It's unlikely Chris would just shove two women into a bunch of monsters. It's more likely that Chris, Barry and possibly Rebecca stayed behind to hold off the monsters while Jill used the flare. And the second time it wasn't even an order, it was just Jill snapping Chris into his senses again.

[Vector]

missvalentine...you've reached an all-time low with this one.

also i have another theory about Jill and Chris.

Chris see's Jill as an authority figure.

Lol, no he doesn't. That doesn't make any sense.

i know there both the same rank, but i think Chris thinks of Jill as a sort of authority figure, kind of like how a husband would just say "Yes Ma'Am!" to everything his wife asked him to unless he wanted to get in trouble later.

Maybe this 'authority figure' you think Chris sees Jill as is just a showing of respect, you ever think of that? Chris Redfield is a goddamn respectful son of a gun. And it's also likely that Chris and Jill have some sort of more-than-partner feelings for each other, so, maybe what you say about the husband and wife thing makes some sense...but as far as seeing her as an authority figure? No.

i noticed this recently, because like people have said here, Chris doesn't like taking orders or authority figures. but yet twice now he has taken orders from Jill.

first in RE1/Remake, in Chris game right before the seconf Tyrant fight at the elevator, we hear the Tyrant roaring and waking up, Chris goes to hold it off but Jill tells him to go up and signal for Brad while she and Rebecca hold it off. Chris argued slightly but submited to her will and did what she said.

"Submitted to her will"? Do you listen to yourself?

then later in RE5, Chris really really wants to talk to Jill after rescuing her, but she knows her needs to stop Wesker, so she orders him to go after him and complete his mission, Chris is reluctant but does it anyway.

Really? She ORDERED him? She said "I ORDER you to forget about the fact that I've actually been alive all this time, because the world is about to come to an end." I'm thinking it was more along the lines of Chris's emotions getting the best of him(imagine that) and focusing all of his thoughts on the fact that his partner, good friend and possible love interest actually really was alive all this time, after seeing her 'die' in front of his own eyes. I dunno about you, but I'd probably be a little consumed with the realization that she was alive. Chris's one-track mind is no surprise to anyone.

so i assume that Chris see's Jill as a form of authority, and i like that.

Yeah...pardon my French, but you really gotta get your head out of your fuckin' ass.

[blaze]

Hahaha. That is a funny notion.

You're basically saying Chris is submissive to Jill xD

I also disagree that Chris sees Jill as a form of "authority". They have a very balanced relationship. And because of their partnership and "maybe more than friends" kind of relationship, Chris just wouldn't see Jill as his superior... more than anything they look at each other as equals.

But it's possible that sometimes, Chris may just be a tad whipped when it comes to Jill

[padamibr]

They are partners...friends...and probably even more then that. I don't think there is any authority over one between either of them. Chris listened to what she said simply because he knew she was right and its fairly obvious shes one of the few people Chris would have no problem listening to. I think they are both considered the same status in the BSAA, well not withstanding Jill's "deceased" status, they both were Original Eleven members.

I agree with this. And I think that there was something more between them, they care way to much for one another.

About Jill in Delta Force, she wasn't a member but recived the trainning? Or she was a member of a unit similar to Delta Force?

[Darinl1979]

I agree with this. And I think that there was something more between them, they care way to much for one another.

About Jill in Delta Force, she wasn't a member but recived the trainning? Or she was a member of a unit similar to Delta Force?

I thought it said that she was, but it could of just been training similiar to it. I forget where it was mentioned...

Hahaha. That is a funny notion.

You're basically saying Chris is submissive to Jill xD

I also disagree that Chris sees Jill as a form of "authority". They have a very balanced relationship. And because of their partnership and "maybe more than friends" kind of relationship, Chris just wouldn't see Jill as his superior... more than anything they look at each other as equals.

But it's possible that sometimes, Chris may just be a tad whipped when it comes to Jill

Chris strikes me as the stubborn type, where its almost impossible to convince him to change his mind. Unless you are someone he cares about and willing to listen...IE) Jill, Claire

[padamibr]

Anyway... Jill for me is the ultimate fighter.
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She's determined, strong, highly trained, have a unmatch experience, have a strong sense of justice and in top of all that, she's willing to sacrifice everything.
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I just want to see her in action more, I'm praying for a DLC with her.

[Darinl1979]

This is where I disagree with you. I don't think Jill is the "ultimate" fighter. Now I think what makes Jill and other Resident Evil protagonists great is that they are human and have weakness as is shown in games. I think one of the factors that turned people off about Jill in RE5 was that she had super human strength and speed (albeit from an enhancement drug). In previous games we were always reminded of her weakness...RE1, she was poisoned, RE3, she was infected and out of action for 2 days. I almost wish something like this would of happened to Chris or Sheva in RE5...sure they got their asses kicked by Wesker but they still kept on pushing and didn't stop for anything.

[Mr. Spencer]

Hm, missvalentine is beginning to develop the all too familar stench of feminism.

[padamibr]

This is where I disagree with you. I don't think Jill is the "ultimate" fighter. Now I think what makes Jill and other Resident Evil protagonists great is that they are human and have weakness as is shown in games. I think one of the factors that turned people off about Jill in RE5 was that she had super human strength and speed (albeit from an enhancement drug). In previous games we were always reminded of her weakness...RE1, she was poisoned, RE3, she was infected and out of action for 2 days. I almost wish something like this would of happened to Chris or Sheva in RE5...sure they got their asses kicked by Wesker but they still kept on pushing and didn't stop for anything.

Maybe you got me wrong. I'm not saying she is invincible. But for me, she got every quality that a solider needs, and in a high level.

[Mr. Spencer]

Maybe you got me wrong. I'm not saying she is invincible. But for me, she got every quality that a solider needs, and in a high level.

Pardon me asking, but have you served in a military capacity?

[padamibr]

Pardon me asking, but have you served in a military capacity?

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Negative. I had to go to the army a couple of times last year but I hadn't had to serve. Why do you ask?

[Mr. Spencer]

You had to go to the army, but you didn't serve? Would it be terribly rude of me to ask you to elaborate?

[padamibr]

Well, here (Brazil), you need to go to the army, it's a obligation. So, I've gone a couple of times, done some tasks and then I was dismissed of my duty. I can be called anytime though.