The Central "Jill Valentine" Discussion Topic

[Darinl1979]

Nature of Jill Valentines death has been brought to light. Apparently Capcom is letting select people play the first two chapters (NOT FIRST TWO DEMO LEVELS) complete with story and cutscenes. How Jill "died" is revealed in a flashback.

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The only flashback to appear was during Chapter 2 after Chris procures a data disk from a BSAA hummer that Irving was in. He puts the file on to his PDA and a folder opens up revealing the image of the woman in the tube.

Chris's instant reply to the picture was of shock and horror and the only word? "Jill..."

Then the flashback kicked in and Wesker is seen standing in front of the giant window in Spencer's Estate. Spencer is seen on the floor, Chris and Jill both enter the room, Jill is thrown against a door and Chris is picked up by Wesker. The next was a blur but Jill is then thrown through the giant window and seemingly falling to her death with Chris leaning over the hole with arms outstretched and a "NOOOOO" look on his face.

I didnt get to play this, but I have seen posts from people who have included a really detailed version in which I took this from. I have to say that if this is the case, I am actually quite pleased, although it does seem a little too cliche and obvious.

[JillLovesChris]

Nature of Jill Valentines death has been brought to light. Apparently Capcom is letting select people play the first two chapters (NOT FIRST TWO DEMO LEVELS) complete with story and cutscenes. How Jill "died" is revealed in a flashback.

Spoiler:

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The only flashback to appear was during Chapter 2 after Chris procures a data disk from a BSAA hummer that Irving was in. He puts the file on to his PDA and a folder opens up revealing the image of the woman in the tube.

Chris's instant reply to the picture was of shock and horror and the only word? "Jill..."

Then the flashback kicked in and Wesker is seen standing in front of the giant window in Spencer's Estate. Spencer is seen on the floor, Chris and Jill both enter the room, Jill is thrown against a door and Chris is picked up by Wesker. The next was a blur but Jill is then thrown through the giant window and seemingly falling to her death with Chris leaning over the hole with arms outstretched and a "NOOOOO" look on his face.

I didnt get to play this, but I have seen posts from people who have included a really detailed version in which I took this from. I have to say that if this is the case, I am actually quite pleased, although it does seem a little too cliche and obvious.

Maybe cliche, but certainly ties in to that short scene in the trailer where we see wesker by the window.

I hope though now that, with this new trailer pretty much outlining and confirming long held theories and rumours, that the game itself will have a lot more twists and turns to keep us interested in the next 15 plus chapters as it seems a lot of this spoiler stuff happens in the first three.

[Darinl1979]

Theres still alot to be covered that is still only being speculated on now. The early chapters of the game seem to just set up the story and give you an idea of whats going on. I believe the mission at the start through the first few chapters is just to find Irving. We probably won't deal with anything involving Jill till much much lady, aside from the plague doctor showing up to most likely be a thorn in our side.

[chris redfield]

The best part is, Capcom's rationale for her "casual" attire was because she was leaving town.

Personally, if I were a woman, I'd wear a tube top and short-ass skirt when I was about to escape a zombie-infested city.

chris redfield29 i agree xD

[nemesiswontdie]

The best part is, Capcom's rationale for her "casual" attire was because she was leaving town.

Personally, if I were a woman, I'd wear a tube top and short-ass skirt when I was about to escape a zombie-infested city.

i thought she just dressed up like that 2 get outta town faster? ehh im not sure if thats true or not

[P Anderson DIE]

Darinl do you have a link to those detailed walkthroughs? Sounds about right tho.

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Quite interesting to I bet she lands in water from a really high drop everyone always asumes thier dead that way but you could always bring them back. If she hits concrete then thats another story.

Nemesis you kinda right about that. Im reading the S.D Perry Nemesis novel now and she says that Jill is dressed that way because its easier for her to move around as she has to cover alot of ground. Theres no denying its for the male fans but is this really the first time a company has used tits and ass to entice us men. I mean turn on the t.v. for christs sake its everywhere.

[Mr_Zombie]

Easier to move around? In a tight mini-skirt? Sure, I'm not a girl and I haven't wore a mini, but I doubt it's more comfortable than a pair of trousers.

[P Anderson DIE]

Hey not my words. S.D. Perry is a girl though and your not so I'll take her side for now.

[chris redfield]

i thought she just dressed up like that 2 get outta town faster? ehh im not sure if thats true or not

nemesiswontdie maybe so

[TheSelfishGene]

"She probably wears clothing with alot of skin exposed because the game takes place in September while it's still hot."

Resident Evil Archives page 110.

[Darinl1979]

Darinl do you have a link to those detailed walkthroughs? Sounds about right tho.

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Quite interesting to I bet she lands in water from a really high drop everyone always asumes thier dead that way but you could always bring them back. If she hits concrete then thats another story.

Yeah I can post it. Its basically the same as another one that was posted earlier, a little more detail put into it though.

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Characters:



Chris Redfield - Nothing new on Chris, other than that the "death" of Jill plagued his mind. He's also worried about being expendable on the part of the BSAA. Him and Sheva are sent after Irving alone after the entire Alpha team is wiped out. He questions this order from the HQ and begins to have doubts about the integrity of the company.



Sheva Alomar - Nothing new on Sheva. She appears to be the little sister of the African branch of BSAA, with Captain Josh Stone teaching her all she knows. They have a friendly relationship.



Reynard Fisher - The guy with the turban. An undercover BSAA Agent but obviously gets killed by the Executioner.



Kirk Mathison - We don't see him much. He dies though as you arrive to the site of his helicopter crash to find him dead.



Dan Dechant - Him and his squad are wiped out by the Leech Zombie. Irving is responsible for this attack.



Josh Stone - Him and his team (Delta Squad) first appear when you meet your first motorcycle Majini. They wipe the crowd out with sniper rifle and there's a Rat Patrol-esque feeling about them. Slow-mo gun shots and all. Again, he's like an older brother to Sheva.



Ricardo Irving - Obviously we know he's a bioweapons dealer and is in Kijuju on business. He's a hilarious guy though by the way he says things and does things. He's got a great taste in cowboy boots as well.



Plague Doctor - We saw her three times. First time is in the VERY first cutscene of the game which is where we see the guy on the floor being infected by one of the leeches. The next time we see her is when Irving is spying on Chris and Sheva after the Alpha team are taken out. She drives Irving away in a jeep. We then see her when she saves Irving with the use of a smoke grenade. She speaks for the first time as well by saying "Hurry" to Irving. Couldn't quite hear in on it though because of the other TVs and people talking. The way she saves Irving is like Ada's rescue of Leon in RE4 where he's about to be killed by Mendez. Zip gun and everything.



Albert Wesker - We see him for the first time in Chapter 2. However, it's in a flashback. I'll delve in to this more later.



Jill Valentine - There is one reference to her and she appears in the flashback scene that Wesker and Chris also appear in. More about her soon.



Ozwell E. Spencer - He is also in the same flashback as Chris, Wesker and Jill. He's laying on the floor during the scene.



Allyson - She appears for 10 seconds and that's her role in the game. I'll delve in to her more next.



Unfortunately no Excella or anyone else.



Enemies:



Male Majini - Regular Majini. They are smarter and appear in bigger crowds in the final version.

Female Majini - Rare but there. I fought around 5 in my entire time I think.

Fat Majini - Massive Majini that only wears shorts. He has no weapons and instead uses his fists. He can run after you but mainly walks because of his size. Takes ages to kill. Fought these about 4 times in my entire time with the game.

Plagas Dog - The first one we came across looked like a Hungarian Viszla but grey. About 4 or them at once usually and they appear with many Majini, including the Fat Majini. Nightmare to kill.

Plagas Dog 2 - This one is a large German Shepard. Even harder to kill but didn't appear to mutate. Only appeared a couple of times.

Flying Plagas - Obviously from the demo. They appear quite often after Shanty Town (where they first appear).

Centipede Plagas - First introduced about 20 minutes in to the game. They are huge, erupting from the necks of the host. They slash out at you and take ages to kill.



Mini Bosses/Bosses:



Executioner - No need for an explanation.

Allyson - Introduces the first Centipede Plagas. She gets infected, Chris "saves" her but then she mutates after you blow her head off. All in the space of 10 seconds. She's just an excuse to introduce more powerful enemies.

Guard - No need for an explanation.

Leech Zombie - Irving is responsible for the first Leech Zombie. One of the dead members of the BSAA Alpha Team get taken over by a mass of leeches and you then have to lure it in to a furnace in order to kill it. Pretty easy and he's slow as well. You can shoot the organs on his body to weaken him.



Environments:



Kijuju Town - A lot of the first chapter takes place here.

Docks - Boats everywhere and you also get cover fire from Kirk.

Train Yard - First meet the dogs.

Mines - First real Survival Horror area as the first part of the area is in complete darkness with only a light providing the only way.



Quick-Time Events:



Only one QTE cutscene was experienced during my time and that was when the Majini on motorcycles first appear.



First part - A motorcyle comes flying off a ramp and the Majini is about to take Sheva out with a chain. You have to hit the button the screen for Chris to knock Sheva out of the way.

Second part - A Majini grabs Chris's leg with a chain and drags him across the dirt. Sheva has to shoot the chain before Chris gets impaled on the helicopter wreck in gory fashion.

Third part - Two Majinis speed towards Chris and Sheva and you have to hit the shoulder buttons to avoid the attack.



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Story So Far:



The game starts with the Plague Doctor standing in front of a male who is being consumed by the leech-like entities. We then see Chris drive through the savannah on his way to Kijuju.



The BSAA set up their main camp in Kijuju, with Chris arriving and meeting Sheva.



You then walk with Sheva (or run) through the village with all the villagers doing their own thing. However, you can walk up to them which will initiate a response as they turn around and give you evil looks. However, you continue to move through the village with talking between the two characters occurring. The goal? To head to the butchers and meet Reynard, the guy with the turban. He's an undercover BSAA agent.



He shows you a massive case containing your standard body armor, knives, guns and ammo.



As you proceed through Kijuju, you obviously go through the scenes with the Executioner, Guard etc. However, Chris and Sheva soon see a girl on the upper floor of a building. This is Allyson. She wears a black dress instead of a red one in the final build and then gets taken inside by a villager. Chris and Sheva rush up to her and Allyson jumps on Chris, hugging him. However, she then turns violent and you have to take her out. Her head explodes and out pops the first real Plagas encounter. Other villagers join her in trying to kill you.



Soon after, you come across the Alpha Team seemingly taken out. Black goo is visible everywhere and Dan Dechant tells Chris about a setup, with Irving running away in the foreground.



The leech mass appears and consumes a BSAA agent introducing the first Leech Zombie.



A scene soon occurs where Chris and Sheva arrive at a hummer enclosure. We see a scene or Irving spying on them by camera. He disappears with the Plague Doctor in a jeep whereas Chris and Sheva discover a case with a file in it, on the front seat of one of the hummers.



Later, Chris and Sheva encounter their first motorcycle-riding Majini. The Delta team appear and take them out via sniper fire. We meet Josh Stone, the captain of the team, for the first time. Chris then checks out the file he got earlier on his PDA. Images appear of Jill Valentine in a tube, with a flashback then occurring (CHECK THE FLASHBACK SECTION AFTER THE STORY SO FAR).



With Chris and Sheva's mission to arrest Irving still the priority, they soon encounter him after the mines. After a brief discussion, a smoke grenade is set off and the Plague Doctor bursts through the window before taking Irving away.



TO BE CONTINUED IN THE GAME.



Flashback:



The only flashback to appear was during Chapter 2 after Chris procures a data disk from a BSAA hummer that Irving was in. He puts the file on to his PDA and a folder opens up revealing the image of the woman in the tube.

Chris's instant reply to the picture was of shock and horror and the only word? "Jill..."

Then the flashback kicked in and Wesker is seen standing in front of the giant window in Spencer's Estate. Spencer is seen on the floor, Chris and Jill both enter the room, Jill is thrown against a door and Chris is picked up by Wesker. The next was a blur but Jill is then thrown through the giant window and seemingly falling to her death with Chris leaning over the hole with arms outstretched and a "NOOOOO" look on his face.



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On the subject of Jill's dress attire, yeah I agree with most. It never really seemed like it fit in with how her character would dress but we dont really know. The only character development we really get from the characters of these games is basically them during crisis time and then whatever we read to fill in the blanks of what happened before and between games. Maybe thats just how Capcom felt Jill would of been outside of work. While I have no doubt that alot of it was probably to attract more male attention to the game, it also isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I have seen far more revealing women clothing in games, but again I wouldn't really label Miss Valentine's Last Escape getup as optimal for zombie infested city escaping.

[P Anderson DIE]

At the end of the day its Capcom's choice as to what the characters wear and is it the worst decsion they have ever made? Far from it I thnk theres alot worse clothes they could have put her in maybe it should have been an unlockable costume where as she wore something alittle more protective. But like I said theres worse things wrong with Re so I think we can forgive them for this.

Nice1 Darnil I'll give it a read now.

That was a good read thanks for that Darnil. Had quite abit of details I didnt know. How long does that actually take to get up to the point it finished?

[Darinl1979]

I don't know of the exact time it took to get to that point, as it was based on those who were able to do it over in London. It stops at the end of chapter 2, I don't recall the exact number of chapters in the game.

Well regardless of anyones opinion on dress attire, you do have to admit that Jill's outfit from Resident Evil 3 is one of the most recognizable outfits from any video game.

[Rock it.]

Well regardless of anyones opinion on dress attire, you do have to admit that Jill's outfit from Resident Evil 3 is one of the most recognizable outfits from any video game.

I wouldn't say so. It looked pretty damn run-o'-the-mill back then for me, and it still does. I don't see why people brag about it. Her original STARS outfit in the other hand tho is, for me at least, one of Capcom's finnest designs to date. Also, I'd wager that her STARS outfit is the most popular of the 2, especially after Jill's inclusion on Marvel vs Capcom 2.

[Vector]

Jill's outfit from Resident Evil 3 is one of the most recognizable outfits from any video game.

Along with Mario's plumber outfit and Link's Peter Pan costume.