The Central "Jill Valentine" Discussion Topic

[P Anderson DIE]

Alexia you got to play the game up untill the flashback scene right? How long did it take you to reach that point.

[Cellardoorsolar]

Alexia you got to play the game up untill the flashback scene right? How long did it take you to reach that point.

Alexia already was asked this question in the spoiler topic. She said it took 2 hours avoiding as many enemies and items as possible. She said with any exploration, it would have taken about 4 hours. She was just trying to zoom through to uncover as much about the plot as possible.

[missvalentine]

I wouldn't mind her wearing a catsuit while sneaking around MY house



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Jill will take steroids and have massive muscles like Chris

i would mind either, and if i cought her in the act, well.... im sure id get my ass kicked by her anyway.


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NNOOO!!!!!!!! not the roids!

Yeah.

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I played the game on Friday and it's confirmed in the first 4 hours that she's dead. Wesker killed her.

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Only kidding. She's tube girl.

oh don't be such a tease Alexia.

Really?

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I thought she was going to be Birdwoman. So she's been cloned?Is there any new trailer? Or how do you exactly know thaty she's the girl in the tube?

yeah there was a new trailer,a LOT of new stuff was released.

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i think Jill is both Birdlady and Tube Girl

No. I don't have it on me. I played a review build of RE5 that all the reviewers got to see, it isn't on the internet yet and won't be till the game is released.

lucky girl. you get to play it before all of us. is it better than the demo? im glad to hear there is lots of exploration in it.

[P Anderson DIE]

Alexia already was asked this question in the spoiler topic. She said it took 2 hours avoiding as many enemies and items as possible. She said with any exploration, it would have taken about 4 hours. She was just trying to zoom through to uncover as much about the plot as possible.

Nice one mate, I missed that post.

[Alexia_Ashford]

lucky girl. you get to play it before all of us. is it better than the demo? im glad to hear there is lots of exploration in it.

Yup, it's by far better than the demo. Gameplay feels better, story is great, and it's just far better. You'll hear about it soon anyway on a podcast we're doing.

[ValentineKnight]

Yup, it's by far better than the demo. Gameplay feels better, story is great, and it's just far better. You'll hear about it soon anyway on a podcast we're doing.

But is it scary?like CV,RE-3?or did it feel like an action shooter?

[Rakkoon]

But turning her into an Alice clone wouldn't be the worst thing that has happened to Jill. The worst thing that ever happened to Jill was taking the plucky, resourceful ex-Delta Force woman from RE1 and placing her in slutty attire (for the benefit of horny young game players who fantasize about digital women) and having her run around Raccoon City.

That is by far the worst crime committed toward Jill Valentine.

What kind of woman with military & law enforcement training would take to the streets (overrun by the living dead), pursued by a deadly killer, in a tube top (with no bra underneath as my profile image confirms) and a miniskirt? She's running around with her flesh exposed to FLESH eating zombies, in a pair of heeled boots. Any sane person would have broken into a sporting goods store or a military vintage store, and put on some appropriate clothing. You know, maybe also added some pockets to carry items?

But hey, lets turn Jill into a slut.

I will never understand it, but some people really seem to have a problem with Jill's RE3 outfit.

I can't even believe you are complaining.

I am always happy to see a 'tough' woman show a more feminine side. Hot even. I am totally okay with the lack of a reason or an explanation or whatever. Not realistic? I would say reality is a lot stranger than a sexy Jill in a zombie infested Raccoon City. Aside from her attire being fan service, I would say it's the most awesome thing that Jill is rather feminine and hot while 'fighting evil', instead of being this tomboyish Sarah Connor type of woman who wears bulky military clothes, has dirt under her nails, and 'secretly' wants to be a man.

Another thing is the contrast I keep mentioning. Then there's the plain sexiness of the whole thing, which doesn't hurt at all in my opinion. Seriously, that's the last thing I would complain about. Sheesh.

[P Anderson DIE]

Are we still on this? Ill come back later.

[ValentineKnight]

um I prefer her RE3 outfit...

[missvalentine]

I will never understand it, but some people really seem to have a problem with Jill's RE3 outfit.

I can't even believe you are complaining.

I am always happy to see a 'tough' woman show a more feminine side. Hot even. I am totally okay with the lack of a reason or an explanation or whatever. Not realistic? I would say reality is a lot stranger than a sexy Jill in a zombie infested Raccoon City. Aside from her attire being fan service, I would say it's the most awesome thing that Jill is rather feminine and hot while 'fighting evil', instead of being this tomboyish Sarah Connor type of woman who wears bulky military clothes, has dirt under her nails, and 'secretly' wants to be a man.

Another thing is the contrast I keep mentioning. Then there's the plain sexiness of the whole thing, which doesn't hurt at all in my opinion. Seriously, that's the last thing I would complain about. Sheesh.

i agree with both agruments, i do like there to be a reason and explanation, and i do like Sarah Connor as well, but i also love the contrast it gives, and her femininity Jill has with her outfit. plus she has a lot of Outfits, in Remake she has a Delta Force uniform which was actually of Saraho Connors character, so she can be tough then, and her STARS gear which is in the middle of both extremes. it's feminine but still is not out of place, and then she has her RE3 Outfit which is very sexy and feminine. which i think shows a lot of sides to Jill, so she can be a girly girl at times and a tough girl at other times.

it's another reason why i love Jill so much.

[Darkmoon]

I will never understand it, but some people really seem to have a problem with Jill's RE3 outfit.

I can't even believe you are complaining.

I am always happy to see a 'tough' woman show a more feminine side. Hot even. I am totally okay with the lack of a reason or an explanation or whatever. Not realistic? I would say reality is a lot stranger than a sexy Jill in a zombie infested Raccoon City. Aside from her attire being fan service, I would say it's the most awesome thing that Jill is rather feminine and hot while 'fighting evil', instead of being this tomboyish Sarah Connor type of woman who wears bulky military clothes, has dirt under her nails, and 'secretly' wants to be a man.

Another thing is the contrast I keep mentioning. Then there's the plain sexiness of the whole thing, which doesn't hurt at all in my opinion. Seriously, that's the last thing I would complain about. Sheesh.

Well, since I try to take my characters more seriously I prefer them to wear clothing that's even remotely appropriate to a setting. Can you honestly say to yourself, "Well, if the zombies do rise it might be a hot day so you know what? I think I'll have an emergency swimming costume on standby. Nothing says zombie protection like a bananna hammock/bikini!"

There are plenty of other ways to have gone with this. I don't think anyone in the world is gonna accuse Aya Brea of Parasite Even fame to secretly wanna be a man. On the other hand her costume was sensible, rugged and fairly effective. The only remotely sensible thing Jill wore was her boots, which would stop ankle biting zombies for a moment or two. So long as they weren't so stiff they slowed her down, of course.

Capcom wanted her sexy? Well, I don't get the point myself (but I've never been attracted to a video game character) but that's fine. The issue is they did it by sticking her in the dumbest costume possible. There were other ways...they chose the quickest, easiest solotuion: make her look like a hooker. And that's not something I like seeing on a woman who is supposed to be smart and trained enough to know better. Jill isn't some dumb civvie who doesn't know better. She's a former Delta Force and S.T.A.R.S member whose had previous experience fighting zombies. She should know what to expect and, more importantly, how to prepare.

[missvalentine]

Well, since I try to take my characters more seriously I prefer them to wear clothing that's even remotely appropriate to a setting. Can you honestly say to yourself, "Well, if the zombies do rise it might be a hot day so you know what? I think I'll have an emergency swimming costume on standby. Nothing says zombie protection like a bananna hammock/bikini!"

There are plenty of other ways to have gone with this. I don't think anyone in the world is gonna accuse Aya Brea of Parasite Even fame to secretly wanna be a man. On the other hand her costume was sensible, rugged and fairly effective. The only remotely sensible thing Jill wore was her boots, which would stop ankle biting zombies for a moment or two. So long as they weren't so stiff they slowed her down, of course.

Capcom wanted her sexy? Well, I don't get the point myself (but I've never been attracted to a video game character) but that's fine. The issue is they did it by sticking her in the dumbest costume possible. There were other ways...they chose the quickest, easiest solotuion: make her look like a hooker. And that's not something I like seeing on a woman who is supposed to be smart and trained enough to know better. Jill isn't some dumb civvie who doesn't know better. She's a former Delta Force and S.T.A.R.S member whose had previous experience fighting zombies. She should know what to expect and, more importantly, how to prepare.

well, we both know an RE3 Remake could fix this up. and in an RE3 Remake capcom could give her a costume change that fits the setting more. and then still have the tube top and mini skirt as an unlockable but non canon outfit at the end after completing it for those that want it.

[Bertha]

Well, since I try to take my characters more seriously I prefer them to wear clothing that's even remotely appropriate to a setting. Can you honestly say to yourself, "Well, if the zombies do rise it might be a hot day so you know what? I think I'll have an emergency swimming costume on standby. Nothing says zombie protection like a bananna hammock/bikini!"

There are plenty of other ways to have gone with this. I don't think anyone in the world is gonna accuse Aya Brea of Parasite Even fame to secretly wanna be a man. On the other hand her costume was sensible, rugged and fairly effective. The only remotely sensible thing Jill wore was her boots, which would stop ankle biting zombies for a moment or two. So long as they weren't so stiff they slowed her down, of course.

Capcom wanted her sexy? Well, I don't get the point myself (but I've never been attracted to a video game character) but that's fine. The issue is they did it by sticking her in the dumbest costume possible. There were other ways...they chose the quickest, easiest solotuion: make her look like a hooker. And that's not something I like seeing on a woman who is supposed to be smart and trained enough to know better. Jill isn't some dumb civvie who doesn't know better. She's a former Delta Force and S.T.A.R.S member whose had previous experience fighting zombies. She should know what to expect and, more importantly, how to prepare.

I agree. I always found the excuse of hot weather to be nothing more than that: an excuse to get a character into a skimpy outfit and then have as many gratuitious breast shots as possible. It was the end of September...when the weather feels more spring like since its closer to fall. Unless I'm completely wrong about that...I mean a small mid-western town may very well be in the upper 90s during September/October.

Jill could have had any number of better costumes. The tube top/skirt combo was solely for sexual appeal. Look at her in the Pachislot. Why was she the only one not in her STARS uniform, and why did they have to tear her clothes at the breast and thigh when Chris's shirt didn't get so much as a snag?

[Skunky]

I can't believe what I'm reading here.
I didn't realize that this was 'The Christian Horror Group: seeking higher morals and family values'.
Maybe you could make a petition and send it to Capcom, showing your outrage and demanding that they dress their female videogame characters more appropriately.

Since when did wearing a boob tube and mini skirt mean that a girl's a hooker?!

I liked Jill's outfit in RE3 and no, I wasn't playing the game with a 'stiffy'. I just thought it was cool.

Some of you people take this shit way too seriously!

[Cellardoorsolar]

^ Agreed, Skunky. And, lmao at Christian Horror Group, hahaha! Why don't we instead put Jill in a long, blue denim skirt and a large, brown, wool turtleneck. We'll also thin out her hair to look more mousy and slightly greasy (parted down the middle with sausage bangs, of course, and no layers) and top it off with early 90's women's white reebok walking shoes with folded over brown socks poking out to tie with the turtleneck. Perfect! Will a fan artist PLEASE draw this?!

I agree. I always found the excuse of hot weather to be nothing more than that: an excuse to get a character into a skimpy outfit and then have as many gratuitious breast shots as possible. It was the end of September...when the weather feels more spring like since its closer to fall. Unless I'm completely wrong about that...I mean a small mid-western town may very well be in the upper 90s during September/October.

Jill could have had any number of better costumes. The tube top/skirt combo was solely for sexual appeal. Look at her in the Pachislot. Why was she the only one not in her STARS uniform, and why did they have to tear her clothes at the breast and thigh when Chris's shirt didn't get so much as a snag?

I love Jill's outfit in RE3 and don't find it skanky, but I found something else in your statement, Rosetta. From what you say, sex appeal isn't the only thing at play. It's as if Capcom is trying to appeal to boys/men with Resident Evil. Sexist.

Although, when I think of Jill, I think of a strong, creative minded, sexy woman. I don't think about how Capcom dresses her. I just see her and build an opinion of her character, which I've always enjoyed. I, as a male, have worked hard over the years to maintain a strong mind, and look very fashionable at the same time. Does that make me superficial? I don't believe so. Fashion is just a way I like to express myself. And, as a male, it's hard to do so and escape "gay" stereotypes. These would be characters like Dante and Nero, which I wouldn't find believable in the RE world.

I, for one, wouldn't mind some sexy females as well as some torn male lead clothing. That would be believable and well balanced... And would fulfill both sides of my psyche, teehee