The Central "Jill Valentine" Discussion Topic

[Jill Lover]

Well I'll have to inform you that this is the SPOILER thread of Jill Valentine so you should not enter... why'd you enter here if you don't want to know about the game? Think about it. There's another thread of spoilers too.. What I mean is... you are not forced to enter these threads...

[Borman]

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Jill is fine. Shes in the ending, live and well. She had some thing attached to her front / heart area, which is pulled off, then she is back to being Jill.

[nemesiswontdie]

is this thread is pretty much the 2nd version of the spoiler thread you wont see me here untill after i beat re5

see ya

[Zimdictive]

Ok, uh, lets quit with the mass spoilers huh guys. Don't want to spoil it all before you get to play yourselves do ya?

Oh, and, uh, what live stream? The game even out in Japan yet? I got my dates messed up.

Just tell me she's not dead. Anything else is workable. Except perhaps a permanent transformation into a clawed monster. That could be tricky.

ARG OVER A WEEK TO GO.

[Darinl1979]

Ok, uh, lets quit with the mass spoilers huh guys. Don't want to spoil it all before you get to play yourselves do ya?

Oh, and, uh, what live stream? The game even out in Japan yet? I got my dates messed up.

Just tell me she's not dead. Anything else is workable. Except perhaps a permanent transformation into a clawed monster. That could be tricky.

ARG OVER A WEEK TO GO.

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Not dead...or is she? As far as the live stream goes. Someone got the game early apparently. The game was leaked out onto the internet by some douche so people were able to pirate it. Two people streamed the whole game live on a video website yesterday. If you missed it, count your blessings because it was painful to watch those two play. However I will say this about the game...even though I was just watching it...alot of the boss fights/cutscenes/intense scenes with lots of enemies were great. I found myself really involved. Sure it will diminish it for me when I play the game myself but it was still enjoyable for me.

[P Anderson DIE]

Sorry I'll only post spoilers here once even though this IS a spoiler thread, I have to say my thoughts on the game. This is not going to be a review on the whole game but it is going to be very SPOILER filled about Jill and her envolement with Re5. Again DO NOT read this if you dont know what happens.

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Ok first I'll just give a quick mention to the rest of the game but this is gonna be very short, I thought that the gameplay and level evniroments where ok kinda got sick of some of the rooms after a while seemed to similar. Not sure what chapter it was but one point it just felt like they was in the same room for over an hour got pretty draining. However the actual gameplay and fighting and such looked very good and enjoyable and I gotta say I cant wait to play it, even though I know what happens its a whole other experience when your playing and not watching. My major problem with the game was cutscenes, They had a real good opportunity to show some nice footage in cutscenes like a build up to the Wesker and Jill showdown I really dont think they showed enough, Appart from what we have seen in the trailers and the Jill scene, I dont recall seeing any epic cutscenes. Also Excella didnt show up til like 3/4 the way through and then she died I didnt even have the chance to decide if I like her or not. So when she died I was thinking ok.

Now onto Jill, the game showed just enough of her, Maybe could have done with a cutscene or two more but I was just to happy with how she was portrayed. The fact that Chris was detirmend to find he soon as he heard her name mentioned I thought was great. We all know from thier past that there may have been or may be something going on between them so I'm glad he made finding her, his number one priority because it felt very real. The unveiling was very cool and then they had the big 2 on 2 showdown which besides the worst two people ever to play a computer console was in control I really enjoyed watching it over and over.....and over again. Yeah her hair was blonde and I really do prefer her with dark hair but so what people change thier hair you cant blame Capcom for trying to be realistic.

Her outfit was kinda slutty but when you have Wesker dressing you up what do you expect. He's obviously a pervert. Cant blame him though if I got to dress up Jill....Well I woudnt. I really did love the part where Chris and Sheva have to pull the thing off her chest the gameplay and cutscene. I may have been a bit over excited to see her but I felt the cutscene after they remove whatever the thing on her chest is was very moving it was thier reunion as this was the first time Jill was her normal self. Dont know bout you guys but I really wanted him to give her a kiss or at least a hug. I know you guys might think it's mushy but if they really do care this much about each other and Capcom are going for realism there should be some physical connection. I felt like their both a bunch of virgins who are scared to be the first one to make a move lol.

Anyway I can get past that because it is a horror/action game and maybe Capcoms afraid it might spoil the moment or something? My last point now is the ending. I was really convinced she was going to die up untill they got onto Wesker's plane. It's great how she is the one who informs Chris of Wesker's weakness which is a very cool idea on Capcom's part. Then at the end when she's saves Chris's ass a second time by throwing him the ladder out of the helicopter again loved the cutscene and there was that awkwardness between Chris and Jill again. Maybe I'm just to soft deep down but I really wanted them to just let down thier guard and hug or kiss or so even just hold hands. I mean they saved each other alot in this game and if someone saved my life I'd be hugging the crap outta them. But that's just a tiny problem on what I thought was epic parts of the game. By far the best parts of the game invovled Jill, yeah Im a Jill fan sue me. Great game cant wait to play.

[Darinl1979]

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I think Excella was promoted too much in trailers, made us think she was worth more then she ended up being worth. Irving ended up being a better villian then her. I think though she served as a good tool for showing how cold and sinister Wesker is.

I am still surprised at how the game turned out. Chris in RE5 isn't like the Chris we know from before. I spent alot of time figuring him to be this douche who cares mainly about his mission and less about those around him. Him making finding Jill his first priority was a good character change for him and quite a surprise for me. I expected him not to be sure on whether Jill was alive until late in the game. So in addition to becoming ripped he also gained a personality. Impressive.

Jill in the game was really well done. The Plague Doctor was interesting and mysterious. I thought once Jill was revealed it would of been anticlimatic but those scenes kept growing and growing. The fight looked to be well done as I was concerned how you fight Jill but cant kill her would turn out. The removing fight even more so, I couldn't help but laugh everytime Sheva performed a skullcrusher on her.

Jills look is fine, as I dont really feel we need an explanation there. The outfit wasn't that bad and it seemed reasonable considering her role in the game. My only gripe is still being unclear what happened to her. I'd like to know what happened after the fall and what that device was that was controlling her.

Even if this is the last game we see with Chris and Jill, I am still very pleased with how it turned out.

[P Anderson DIE]

Nice to hear someone on this forums thoughts on the Jill situation. Totally agree about Chris and Jill, I think there will be a seperate ways of some sort for Jill in DLC probably for about 15 pound (20 dollars roughly) Her story alone has the potential for it. I mean that could be one hell of a side game if done right I'd probably prefer it to the main game.

[Darinl1979]

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Well theres alot to tell there. I think Capcom figured out that Jill is a really popular character so not doing DLC with her doing a side mission would be a mistake. They pretty much left open what happened with the fall off the Spencer Estate, how Wesker took her under control, other things she may have done while under control (chapters 2-4 had Birdwoman helping Irving to escape..that could be told) in addition to what happens after Chris leaves. Hopefully Capcom does at least something with it, at the very least I would like it to be told in some kind of file.

[Scream]

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I think they only made Chris ripped so he could get rid of that boulder later on. He-yah! He-yah!

[BadWolfX]

Hmm.

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So Jill can't die then? That's sorta....I mean I love her but I'm sure I read somewhere that you could either save her or kill her. As much as I love her, I think it would've been cool if there was the option to kill her.

[Darinl1979]

Hmm.

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So Jill can't die then? That's sorta....I mean I love her but I'm sure I read somewhere that you could either save her or kill her. As much as I love her, I think it would've been cool if there was the option to kill her.

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Well you can kill her but if you do you get the same messege that you get if your partner dies "Your partner has died" in red. Most likely because Jill is somewhat important later on when she tells you certain crucial information.

It would of made for a different ending and while sometimes different endings are nice...I hate them with games like this because it causes people to argue about whats canon and whats not.

There was alot of speculation going around about certain details later in the game. Most proved to be false, the only thing that I read that was accurate was the details about the first Wesker fight.

[BadWolfX]

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Ah well, that's all cool. I can't wait for the Jill/Wesker vs Chris/Sheva fight Sounds insanely awesome

[Darinl1979]

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Ah well, that's all cool. I can't wait for the Jill/Wesker vs Chris/Sheva fight Sounds insanely awesome

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Yeah it is, I think every fight with Wesker involved looks awesome. The 2nd part of the fight though where you are performing "masters of removing" against Jill is pretty epic. Theres some nice dialogue from Chris to Jill in it and the music to it was one of what I thought to be the best sounding tracks in the game. It felt strange to watch though and it will be even more strange to play, something just doesn't seem right playing as Chris and fighting against Jill.

[BadWolfX]

I'm all pumped for the game now.*

The soundtrack looks set to be awesome. I hope we get at least some tracks on YouTube, I just don't have the money to buy it.

*I should say even more pumped. The spoilers only increased my wanting for it.