Where are the women?

[Jill's Boob]

^Jump to conclusions much? (said to missvalentine)

Claire was in RE2, RECV, and in "Degen" (however little, since all characters are shuffled to the background in favor of he-who-must-not-be-named). And surely she'll return someday. Unless "someone" who told you that it'll be her last appearance happens to be Nostradomus. (Do you believe everything someone tells you? In that case, give me all of your money...I know of some great investments only I can make for you.) Claire also happened to be in the live action RE world, just like the next person...

Jill has had the most RE-related appearances out of any RE character, and even now, with Chris finally getting his own game (still shared with Sheva), Jill remains the most talked about and fawned over character. Sure, her tombstone has been shown...but she could be the Mystery Woman, or the tombstone could be a red herring. Surely Jill is not dead or will remain dead. Give it a rest - your Jill love is beyond bias...it's aggravating.

Rebecca was in RE1 and never (in my mind) had enough substance to merit her own game, which she got with RE0.

Ada was a supporting character in RE2, a supporting character in RE4, and even got her own "games" with Assignment Ada and Separate Ways. Surely she will return.

As for the Outbreak women...aren't they all dead anyway?

Jesus - you act as if the RE series is completely anti-female. There seem to be many women in leading roles in RE5: Sheva, Excella, Mystery WOMAN, Sherry (my guess).

Give it a rest.

[P Anderson DIE]

Yeah thanks for pointing out the cast of the Re Series Jill's boob but I think you misunderstood my post, I didnt say it has and always has been a sausage fest I said its becoming one. Degeneration was owned by Leon, Claire was like the background support and Re4 had Leon all over it, Re5 seems to be all about Chris and his super duper muscles, I guarentee Re6 is a male lead. Unless Jill's alive there's no female important enough to be the main star.

[Jill Lover]

RE4 - 1 male (?) character

LMAO! That made my day!

RE0 and REmake should have had female enemies... Because it is quite unrealistic if they aren't incluided... For example, in RE0 there were some females laying in the train seats... But it looks like they didn't turn into zombies after all, were they inmune?

Rebecca was in RE1 and never (in my mind) had enough substance to merit her own game, which she got with RE0.

100% Agree.

[Jill's Boob]

Well, it's a shame that Claire is reduced to nothing in "Degeneration," but I knew that would be the case as soon as I saw the second trailer. Sadly, the character who overshadows her is exactly why I won't watch that film.

As for female characters not possibly getting the lead in RE6...how do you know? Jill (who will NOT be dead or if she is, STAY dead), Rebecca, Claire, Sheva (we don't know how much of an impact she'll make, since we have yet to see her), Sherry, or even Ada all have the potential to star in a future RE game. No one knows the future, and speculation is just speculation.

Sherry or Sheva could knock your socks off in RE5, yet you've no idea since you've never played it...but you all are already mapping out RE6.

Heck, since this game is rumored to end the mytharc introduced in RE0-RE5, perhaps RE6 will feature an all new cast...most likely with male AND female leads, since most games in the series has featured that scenario (except RE3 & RE4).

Seeing as Jill was the most overexposed RE character prior to neoL's appearance in RE4, I think the series was female-centric up until 2005.

[P Anderson DIE]

Well you just said Rebbeca doesnt merit for a main role and I agree and I think Capcom know that now, they wont do it again. Claire is done with fighting its implied in Degeneration. Sheva I hope dies in Re5 because if she doesnt and gets the lead role im definatley done with this series, talk about unoriginal her character is garbage! Jill? I dont think she is dead but something aint right she possibly gone evil or something but it dont look good.

Yes it was female centric til 2005 so lets get back to that! Thats why the game was so damn popular. Dunno bout you but while ill running round id rather look at some sexy chick than a muscular bound stereoid freak or well you know Leon. Why you think Tomb Raider was so popular cause I can tell you it wasnt the gameplay.

[Jill Lover]

I agree... since rocky male characters became popular, I think there will be something pretty bad for Jill in RE5... Whatever they do, I don't think they'll just kill her off... I'm waiting for more information first...

[riderkid]

...you do know that one in sixty serial killers are women, right?

proven on CSI NY

[Jill's Boob]

Sheva I hope dies in Re5 because if she doesnt and gets the lead role im definatley done with this series, talk about unoriginal her character is garbage!

How? How is she unoriginal? A native African female combatant who was thrust into a bio-terror opposition agent role due to some tragedy in her past. I've never seen anything like it. And as for her being "garbage" - you really no nothing of her mannerisms, attributes, etc. Yet you condemn her instantly because she's not Jill. Look, I'd rather see Jill with Chris in RE5 too, but I am not going to lash out at Sheva when I know next to nothing about her, and will not be able to play out her story until March.

Yes it was female centric til 2005 so lets get back to that! Thats why the game was so damn popular. Dunno bout you but while ill running round id rather look at some sexy chick than a muscular bound stereoid freak or well you know Leon. Why you think Tomb Raider was so popular cause I can tell you it wasnt the gameplay.

Haha. You're funny. Well, the "Tomb Raider" sexy female character thing did have the same effect on me - when I was 13. Now, I like to play a game with a compelling narrative, and a hero (male or female) that is interesting rather than "eye candy."

[Itashious_boy]

XD well i just remembered that i only remember playing RE2 and it wass the only RE game i remember playing having female zombies in it (btw RE4 doesnt even have zombies in it you dooops)

~RE Rox my Sox~

[Stars1356]

There seems to be more women characters in RE 5 than any other game. Only one is playable but there is also Excella, birdwoman, girl in the red dress, tube girl and probably Jill. The women zombies or whatever they are called will be there.

[Zombie]

For the sake of variety I hope the "infected" women didn't get cut from the game, sadly, the animation is going to be the same for both genres.

[Mr_Zombie]

Well, it's a shame that Claire is reduced to nothing in "Degeneration," but I knew that would be the case as soon as I saw the second trailer. Sadly, the character who overshadows her is exactly why I won't watch that film.

Maybe you should watch the film before you're going to make such statements like above.
Claire wasn't overshadowed in Degeneration; it's only that Leon, as an special agent (and BTW, Degeneration Leon acts nothing like RE4 Leon, he's a completely different guy), has more action scenes and is fighting with G monster; but Claire is still there and is still doing her stuff, and is still one of two main characters.

Why you think Tomb Raider was so popular cause I can tell you it wasnt the gameplay.

Maybe it wasn't just the gameplay, but believe me, even if Lara Croft was Laurence Croft back then, the game would still be as popular as it was (at least the first two games). TR1 was a great action-adventure game with jaw dropping (at the time) locations, memorable music, nice environment puzzles etc. It's not just Lara's boobs that made lots of people interested in the series.

[missvalentine]

^Jump to conclusions much? (said to missvalentine)

i don't see how i did.

Claire was in RE2, RECV, and in "Degen" (however little, since all characters are shuffled to the background in favor of he-who-must-not-be-named). And surely she'll return someday. Unless "someone" who told you that it'll be her last appearance happens to be Nostradomus. (Do you believe everything someone tells you? In that case, give me all of your money...I know of some great investments only I can make for you.) Claire also happened to be in the live action RE world, just like the next person...

i know, but that's before, and the RE movies are non canon, and i was talking about the games, i want Claire to be in more games, not movies. and don't make fun of me, i don't want to see degeneration yet until it's out on DVD, and "someone" who did watch it said that Claire took a back seat to Leon in the movie, so i assume that he was telling the truth

Jill has had the most RE-related appearances out of any RE character, and even now, with Chris finally getting his own game (still shared with Sheva), Jill remains the most talked about and fawned over character. Sure, her tombstone has been shown...but she could be the Mystery Woman, or the tombstone could be a red herring. Surely Jill is not dead or will remain dead. Give it a rest - your Jill love is beyond bias...it's aggravating.

how was i even being biased at all before, i said i don't like it because it seems capcom is killing of or downplaying there female cast.

and yeah Jill had games before, but if she's dead then that's it, no more Jill, and that sucks, they killed her off, and i hate that, so she may never get any more games, that is what i was saying.

Rebecca was in RE1 and never (in my mind) had enough substance to merit her own game, which she got with RE0.

well i like Rebecca, and im interested to see what happened to her after the mansion incident, even if she was just a side character again i want to know what happened to her.

Ada was a supporting character in RE2, a supporting character in RE4, and even got her own "games" with Assignment Ada and Separate Ways. Surely she will return.

but she's a sopporting character, all the main cast of females is being killed off or downplayed while there putting more females into the supporting cast role, i want females in the main role more than suporting.

As for the Outbreak women...aren't they all dead anyway?

no, did you finsih Outbreak and get the good ending?

Jesus - you act as if the RE series is completely anti-female. There seem to be many women in leading roles in RE5: Sheva, Excella, Mystery WOMAN, Sherry (my guess).

Give it a rest.

well it seems like capcom have been downplaying there female cast recently, that's all im saying, ive never complained about this before, only just now, and Sheva is a supporting character, Excella is an antagonist, Birdlady looks to be an antagonst, and we don't know about Sherry but chances are she's a supporting character, see i want them in he MAIN character role.

[P Anderson DIE]

I doubt it I never gave a damn bout Tomb Raider, Played the 1st game for a little bit and well it was Resi or Tomb Raider and as you can tell Lara didnt get my vote. Not interested what so ever with that franchise and never will be. Anyway to Stars1356 you said Re5 has all these female characters hell for all we know Sherry, birdlady, tubegirl & red dress woman could all be....thats right you guessed it, 1 woman! So thats 3 women in amongst a game that has bout 300 men. So thats 1 woman per 100 men. Yeah thats very fair.

As far as Sheva goes Jillsboob, I've seen enough from the trailers alone to know she is one of these Im Well Ard no nonsense pint drinking kebab scoffing lesbians kinda like Michelle Rodriguez, how many times have we seen this character? Too many. She just been dropped off in the middle of a hell hole and she doesnt seem the slightest suprised about wats going on. Plus the fan kick? Its something you would see in a Mortal Kombat game and so is Sheva.

[Jill's Boob]

Does anyone remember in the beginning of RE4 when the player enters a shack, before you arrive at the main village and use your binoculars. There was a women impaled to the side of the shack by a pitchfork through her face. When you observed it the text said something to the effect of "I guess there is no gender discrimination here. I better find Ashley quick."

I remember that quite vividly. I thought it was a bold move. Of course, I've also never thought it has to be "taboo" to show women or children be slain. After all, it happens every day in the real world. Male, female, child, animal - death is ALWAYS unfortunate but a part of life.

Maybe you should watch the film before you're going to make such statements like above.

Well, according to the podcast on the film, and all the message boarders that have already seen it, Claire plays mostly second fiddle to NeoL. So, do I still need to watch the film to make my statement that she plays second fiddle?

i don't see how i did.

Your rant on how Jill is dead, how someone told you Claire will never return to the series, and how future RE titles are going totally testosterone...your wording states those things as factual, which is called "jumping to conclusions."

"someone" who did watch it said that Claire took a back seat to Leon in the movie

Lots of people have stated as such, which is what I am trying to explain to "Mr Zombie."

how was i even being biased at all before, i said i don't like it because it seems capcom is killing of or downplaying there female cast.

You are being biased when you state that Jill is your favorite character EVER (in any type of fiction - you DID state that elsewhere on these boards) and then your signature states "I LIKE GIRLS." That is a bias when you 100% prefer all female characters. There's nothing wrong with that - it is your personal preference - but it skews your logic unfairly.

well i like Rebecca, and im interested to see what happened to her after the mansion incident, even if she was just a side character again i want to know what happened to her.

I like Rebecca too, but she hardly did enough in RE1 to deserve her own game. (And RE0, though a pretty game, really recreated the pre-RE1 history poorly.) If anything, her getting her own game counters your argument. Barry was far more important in RE1 (and the events leading to it), yet he never got his own game. That could be called out as anti-male sentiment, if I were to use your logic that Capcom purposefully uses sexist ideas in utilizing game characters.

but she's a sopporting character, all the main cast of females is being killed off or downplayed while there putting more females into the supporting cast role, i want females in the main role more than suporting.

Okay - that is what YOU want. That hardly makes all of this factually concrete. RE4 was the first time that an RE game had a single primary MALE hero. This took place SIX years after the first RE game where there was a single primary FEMALE heroine. I guess RE5 can be considered another game with a single primary MALE protagonist, but, since the game has yet to be released, we don't know 100%. And no matter what, Chris has Sheva with him almost every step of the way. And she is playable for (nearly) the entire game by another player.

As for "all the main cast of females is being killed off or downplayed while there putting more females into the supporting cast role" - are they all being killed off? Or have we just seen one image of a tombstone that may or may not be a red herring? Do we know Jill is dead? As far as I know, there currently are no dead female heroes. As for women being downplayed, that happened in "Degeneration" and that's it. Yet you state these things as if they are rampant and true and fact for the future of the series.

I'm not trying to pick on you or blast your theories, missvalentine, I just think you are overreacting illogically. I understand your passion for female leads. It must be frustrating...but I think you are making it worse on yourself than it has to be. Just believe. Believe that RE6 will feature a strong female lead of great will & character. For your sake, I hope it does.

So thats 1 woman per 100 men. Yeah thats very fair.

And completely logical. Haven't you ever seen "The Smurfs?"

As far as Sheva goes Jillsboob, I've seen enough from the trailers alone to know she is one of these Im Well Ard no nonsense pint drinking kebab scoffing lesbians kinda like Michelle Rodriguez, how many times have we seen this character? Too many. She just been dropped off in the middle of a hell hole and she doesnt seem the slightest suprised about wats going on. Plus the fan kick? Its something you would see in a Mortal Kombat game and so is Sheva.

Sheva doesn't seem surprised? Well, seeing as she is a BSAA agent, who's specialty is her own homeland (where this game happens to take place), do you think she should be surprised?

Besides, she's not being dropped off into an unknown warzone...she is Chris' local guide, as she is part of the African branch of the BSAA.

The fab kick belonging in Mortal Kombat...while, yes, I agree ridiculous combat moves don't belong in RE, her kick is hardly more ridiculous than the combat moves seen in RE4 & REUC.

As for Sheva being a "Im Well Ard no nonsense pint drinking kebab scoffing lesbians kinda like Michelle Rodriguez" - I don't even know what that is, but it sounds funny. I think that, as we really know nothing of Sheva, you are jumping to conclusions.