Wesker discussion

[Yzak]

Mostly I really want one so people can give overall thoughts about his part in the story/and or Spoiler:

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boss fight talk, strategies or keyboard smashing.

But mainly because I am extremely curious about thoughts regarding the revelation from Spoiler:

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Spencer about Project W, the Wesker children and his file that explains said topics better.

Playing that safe in case people check this thread out and haven't beaten the game yet. Obviously end-game spoilers will be floating around, so. o/

[[STARS]TyranT]

THis is the spoiler forum so we should be okay.

Anyway, I really liked Wesker in this, and thought his demise was pretty good. He ends up becoming the one thing he's always risen above being, a bio-weapon. Yet frustation of fighting Chris again and again and he embraces one more virus, so Chris yet again exploits it.
No matter how powerful Wesker could become, Chris was always more resourceful, he beat Wesker at Rockfort because he could outwit him. Wesker always had the notion that the only thing that can beat power is more power, yet everytime Chris proves him wrong. Wesker in his final moments makes the ultimate mistake and embraces something Chris, with his partner can beat. Love it.

The only thing i'm not keen on is the Wesker children, but I understand Capcom had a hell of time getting around the magical Wesker virus, so they merely added a backstory to Birkin giving him the virus. It's quite cunning and actually pretty good, but the only reason I don't like it, is because like Sergei Vladmir, it's, like him, has been tagged on in the game that said character has been killed. So there's really no reason for it.

[Archelon]

I'm not really sure how I feel about it. I mean, his master plan is really no different from Morpheus Duvall's and Osmund Saddler's. Not that Wesker was ever much of an original character to begin with, but I swear, if he had a handle bar mustache, he would have been curling it with his finger the entire game.

[Yzak]

I thought the whole revelation was interesting. Hilariously in the many series that I love, my favorite characters were either genetically altered, created, and in two cases their production numbers are unlucky ones. And I've always loved Wesker, so when this was revealed I was just like "... wow my favorite characters really do have a pattern."

Wesker's Reports do mention a few times that he was never able to really understand Spencer's intentions, so I DO like how they tied it into small things like that so it didn't come off as coming COMPLETELY from left field. It was still an unexpected shocker, but yeah. And they did a good job of mentioning things about why he was recruited to Umbrella and stuff, too.

So overall it was pretty weird, but I didn't find myself completely hating it or being like "WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING?" When I thought about it some, and read Wesker's file in the game I started to like the idea of it.

[missvalentine]

ive always liked Wesker, he's one of my favorite characters. but in RE5 he was crap. they ruined him completely. and this Wesker Children thing sucks. it just makes him even more uncool.

also i think Wesker was just way overpowered in RE5. i mean CVX was pushing the boundrys. and RE5 broke them completely.

[News Bot]

also i think Wesker was just way overpowered in RE5. i mean CVX was pushing the boundrys. and RE5 broke them completely.

Have you played RE4 or Umbrella Chronicles? In CVX he was "pushing the boundrys" because it was only four months following his "revival". He still needed A LOT of dicking around to get full potential out of the virus.

Also, technical limitations.

[missvalentine]

Have you played RE4 or Umbrella Chronicles? In CVX he was "pushing the boundrys" because it was only four months following his "revival". He still needed A LOT of dicking around to get full potential out of the virus.

Also, technical limitations.

we hardly saw him in RE4. and mercs is non canon but he doesn't do much more than in CVX anyway.

and no i had a choice between finnally buying my Wii with a copy of UC, or getting RE5 on release. i chose the later.

[rehunk88]

i love wesker and i love wesker in re 5 to this game is so freaking brilliant i love it wesker was awsome !!! hands down the voice acting was 100 FROM all of the actors and actress
i loved those cutscenes fights where we had to stand our ground against wesker so sweet and the ending hey i can see why many is so against it but in some way i still dont belive wesker is all gone yet XD.

[Bertha]

I swear, if he had a handle bar mustache, he would have been curling it with his finger the entire game.

He does slick back his hair during the first fight with him....does that count?

[Vector]

I'm not gonna bother spoiler-tagging anything. This is the spoiler forum, the game's been out for two days, etc.

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Not a fan of the whole Project W thing. So we're meant to believe that there were a hundred baby Weskers running around, all with different first names, all from really intelligent/successful families, all 'groomed' for their purpose? I don't buy it. I liked him a lot better when he was just Captain Wesker, double-crossing Umbrella and fucking shit up.

I liked how he just continued to manipulate people...that seems like his M.O., manipulation. Whether it was Barry, or the STARS team as a whole, or Jill or Excella in RE5...that was his favorite thing to do -- manipulation.

I'm upset about how he died. Two rocket launchers and a pit of lava had to take that sadistic son of a bitch down.

He will be missed.

[News Bot]

Not a fan of the whole Project W thing. So we're meant to believe that there were a hundred baby Weskers running around, all with different first names, all from really intelligent/successful families, all 'groomed' for their purpose? I don't buy it. I liked him a lot better when he was just Captain Wesker, double-crossing Umbrella and fucking shit up.

There weren't hundreds. It was a relatively small number, all around the globe.

[TheBatMan]

The only thing i was dissappointed with was that in past games, Wesker was always so cool, calm and calculated. He always gave the impression he planned everything to the last detail and was always one step ahead of everyone else. In RE5, particularly at the end, he did seem to act as if he had 'lost it' and had become a typical madman who was a couple of cans short of a six pack.
Then again, perhaps his behaviour changed the day he killed Spencer and his 'internal programming' was broken.

[Yzak]

The only thing i was dissappointed with was that in past games, Wesker was always so cool, calm and calculated. He always gave the impression he planned everything to the last detail and was always one step ahead of everyone else. In RE5, particularly at the end, he did seem to act as if he had 'lost it' and had become a typical madman who was a couple of cans short of a six pack.
Then again, perhaps his behaviour changed the day he killed Spencer and his 'internal programming' was broken.

What you said at the end there does make sense. But Wesker was pretty cool throughout the entire game. It was only when Chris and Sheva started screwing his plans did he start to get pissed off. Especially since even if he didn't mutate with Uroboros at the end, the serum overdose in his body was already starting to internally mess with him.

[Mr. Spencer]

My thoughts regarding Wesker and why his Uroboros Plan was fundamentally flawed from the very beginning, another delicious copy-pasta from the vaults of Project Umbrella:

Come to think of it, Wesker's plan was fundamentally flawed. He wanted to spread the Uroboros Virus throughout the world and contaminate the Earth's population, fair enough. Some of those infected will have compatible DNA and will become superhumans or whatever, but what about the majority who aren't worthy? You're going to have a planet full of leech blob monsters which will need to be disposed of, and considering that they would have numerical superiority then Wesker's new race has some serious problems. That's why I think that Spencer's plan was a lot more sound, since Progenitor more or less just killed those who were "unworthy".

Dead bodies are a lot easier to get rid of than leech blob monsters. As for Uroboros itself, I'm not sure. It's clearly modelled after the Progenitor virus, except some serious modifications have been made to it. Oh, and Wesker's method of spreading the virus was to load it onto missiles and then use a stealth bomber to deploy it into the atmosphere. No-one would dare shoot it down either since it would leak out in the same way and cause a biohazard. It was only thanks to Chris and Sheva that the plane was more or less brought down safely.

More than that. According to Wesker's document in RE5, there were hundreds of children born from parents of superior intellect from many different nationalities and backgrounds. Their knowledge, logic and self-will would either be manipulated via genetic engineering and/or indoctrinated by Spencer via any means he deemed necessary - I'm thinking something along the lines of Malcolm McDowell's "rehabilitation" in A Clockwork Orange. All of these children were then raised in controlled environments, secretly watched by Umbrella.

In short, Spencer had his own Lebensborn program. It's fascinating the number of correlations you can draw between what Spencer planned and what Heinrich Himmler attempted to do, a major eugenics program with the aim of propagating a "master race". While Spencer may or may not have intended for a form of global euthanasia, the end result would have been the same - the deaths of those who were deemed inferior, and the survival and creation of a master race that would serve him in the new utopia he intended to create. If he had succeeded, I don't think he would be a "god" as such. He probably would have become more of a dictator than anything else. Similar to Aiden Krone in TimeShift, except that there would be no-one with a free will to oppose him. Makes a lot more sense than Wesker's version of the plan, in which case if he had succeeded he would have been left with millions of leech blob monsters to dispose of.

So where does the "Wesker Virus" fit into all of this? Simple, it was just a selection process to filter out the best of the Wesker offspring. I'm also of the inclination that it was a variant of the Progenitor virus, which according to the legend of the Sonnentreppe, would simply kill those who weren't worthy of it. Which is what happened to the majority of the Wesker children, with the exception of a few survivors - one of which being #013 - Albert.

[Beanovsky Durst]

They killed him... that sucks. The master manipulator of the series is gone. With that, everyone that was involved with Umbrella is dead. I'm guessing the new antagonist must be associated with TriCell, as they left the hole opened on that aspect.

His death sucked. However he took two god-damned rocket launchers in the face while burning on hot magma to die. Take that Mr. X!!!

I'm gonna miss you, my master.