Wesker gets my vote, we will rule the world together!!!
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Excella was probably the most detestable character in the game, not because she was badly written or poorly portrayed, but because of her complete lack of understanding and total sheep like behaviour towards Wesker. It made me irritated. She spends most of her appearances throughout the game being catty and facetious towards Chris and Sheva or idolizing Wesker. She's supposedly an absolute genius who enrolled in University at a young age, majoring in Genetic Engineering and quickly becoming a CEO of Tricell and an officer of the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium, yet she can't use that same sharp intellect to detect that a man like Wesker is ultimately going to betray her, especially considering how icy cold he acted towards her most of the time. There's always the chance his off screen persona could have been a little different...
The final straw for me was at the end of chapter 5-3 you see her boarding the ship with Wesker and she's wearing sunglasses, which, if you ask me - Is an obvious reference to how much she sucks up to Wesker. She was a very malicious and uncaring person, and also a very foolish one - And definitely deserved what was coming to her.
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Originally posted by missvalentine View Postcare to give a reason?
Then when he enters the battle situation, his inexperience becomes so blindingly apparent. Sure, Uroboros was something they had never encountered before but he's part of an organisation that specialises in combating B.O.W.s, yet he demonstrated a clear lack of any leadership or command ability for someone who has served in both the U.S. Army and in a PMC. How he made it the rank of Captain, I'll never understand.
"HELP! CAN'T SEE! ARGHGHH!" are hardly the words of a leader. No wonder his unit got wiped out if their commanding officer barely has the resolve and capacity to retain his own composure, let alone keep everyone else together. So to summarise - he bitched about the mission not going the way he wanted it to, then he broke down and lost control when up against Uroboros, when Chris and Sheva - a two person team, managed to subdue the creature with some effort and steady heads. Again, you could argue that they didn't know what it was, but he's in a organisation that deals with such things, surely he has experience in dealing with new threats?
An ambush, yes. But even so, he fucked up. He didn't even order a retreat, he stood there and let everything go down the pan. Then while his comrades all died fighting Uroboros, he survives long enough to want a glorifying death scene.
What a self-absorbed knob.Last edited by Mr. Spencer; 03-29-2009, 09:40 AM.See you in hell.
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Originally posted by Gideon Quinn View PostExcella was probably the most detestable character in the game, not because she was badly written or poorly portrayed, but because of her complete lack of understanding and total sheep like behaviour towards Wesker. It made me irritated. She spends most of her appearances throughout the game being catty and facetious towards Chris and Sheva or idolizing Wesker. She's supposedly an absolute genius who enrolled in University at a young age, majoring in Genetic Engineering and quickly becoming a CEO of Tricell and an officer of the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium, yet she can't use that same sharp intellect to detect that a man like Wesker is ultimately going to betray her, especially considering how icy cold he acted towards her most of the time. There's always the chance his off screen persona could have been a little different...
The final straw for me was at the end of chapter 5-3 you see her boarding the ship with Wesker and she's wearing sunglasses, which, if you ask me - Is an obvious reference to how much she sucks up to Wesker. She was a very malicious and uncaring person, and also a very foolish one - And definitely deserved what was coming to her.
Originally posted by Mr. Spencer View PostJust his demeanour over the radio, it's almost as though he went in thinking that the mission would go the way he wanted it to and if didn't then he would bitch about it. Best example of this, "Mathison, you there? Our route is blocked!" - Just the tone of his voice annoyed me, it's like he was bitching because things weren't going his way and so he complained to Kirk about it as though he could do something about it.
Then when he enters the battle situation, his inexperience becomes so blindingly apparent. Sure, Uroboros was something they had never encountered before but he's part of an organisation that specialises in combating B.O.W.s, yet he demonstrated a clear lack of any leadership or command ability for someone who has served in both the U.S. Army and in a PMC. How he made it the rank of Captain, I'll never understand.
"HELP! CAN'T SEE! ARGHGHH!" are hardly the words of a leader. No wonder his unit got wiped out if their commanding officer barely has the resolve and capacity to retain his own composure, let alone keep everyone else together. So to summarise - he bitched about the mission not going the way he wanted it to, then he broke down and lost control when up against Uroboros, when Chris and Sheva - a two person team, managed to subdue the creature with some effort and steady heads. Again, you could argue that they didn't know what it was, but he's in a organisation that deals with such things, surely he has experience in dealing with new threats?
An ambush, yes. But even so, he fucked up. He didn't even order a retreat, he stood there and let everything go down the pan. Then while his comrades all died fighting Uroboros, he survives long enough to want a glorifying death scene.
What a self-absorbed knob.
and i did find it weird that the Uroboros killed the entire BSAA Alpha team, yet Chris and Sheva can take care of it easily, yet Chris and Sheva are about to get there asses kicked my some Majini on motorbikes, yet the BSAA Delta team come and save the day and massacre all the majini easily. but isn't Alpha team is meant to be the more trained one? and Delta team the backup unit. it makes no sense.
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Originally posted by missvalentine View Postand that makes her suited to the roll of a villain, i mean you are supposed to want to kill the villian right.
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I loved Wesker's portrayal. They finally did him justice and grabbed him out of the character limbo they had him stuck in since RE4. Back to his CVX self, which he never should've left. He has a much better character when he's sadistic.
Spencer was very nice too. Although I wish he'd been a presence in the actual mission events rather than a flashback.
I can't say I disliked any of the characters. Although I didn't really care for Excella. But I was happy with how she was portrayed. Insecure and getting fucked over in the end.PROJECT Umbrella - The BIOHAZARD/RESIDENT EVIL Compendium
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Voted Jill, Always has been a favorite of mine since I prefered her story in RE1 and RE3 holds a special place for me so I am likely to be a little more biased towards her. I do feel she could of had a better role in RE5 but even the small amount of time she got on screen for RE5, most of it was good. I think her dialogue in the Trust scene alone was just as good if not better then anyone else's.
I had other potential favorites though...
Excella - She became nothing more then obsessed with Wesker. The trailers seemed to make her the next big behind the scenes villian but instead she became a poor Uroboros plot. Besides antagonizing Chris in Chapter 5..did she accomplish anything?
Spencer - I wasnt disappointed with how his character turned out, just that after all this time he was only in a flashback. My complaint with him is really the same as Jill, just not involved enough.
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Originally posted by Gideon Quinn View PostExcella was probably the most detestable character in the game, not because she was badly written or poorly portrayed, but because of her complete lack of understanding and total sheep like behaviour towards Wesker. It made me irritated. She spends most of her appearances throughout the game being catty and facetious towards Chris and Sheva or idolizing Wesker. She's supposedly an absolute genius who enrolled in University at a young age, majoring in Genetic Engineering and quickly becoming a CEO of Tricell and an officer of the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium, yet she can't use that same sharp intellect to detect that a man like Wesker is ultimately going to betray her, especially considering how icy cold he acted towards her most of the time. There's always the chance his off screen persona could have been a little different...
The final straw for me was at the end of chapter 5-3 you see her boarding the ship with Wesker and she's wearing sunglasses, which, if you ask me - Is an obvious reference to how much she sucks up to Wesker. She was a very malicious and uncaring person, and also a very foolish one - And definitely deserved what was coming to her.
While I agree with almost everything you say...I wish people would get off the sunglasses thing. Irving had sunglasses, Chris had sunglasses, Ada wore sunglasses (at fucking nighttime I might add)... Just because someone is wearing sunglasses doesn't mean they are mimicing Wesker. I made a statement before the game was released, saying Excella was going to be nothing more than a poorly written Alexia clone save for the mutation (at the time I didn't know her fate) and her desire to be with Wesker. The game proved me right in every aspect. I totally wish Excella was never included and Spencer was given a bigger role.
As for my fave...meh...I voted for Wesker. He's been a long time favorite of mine and I enjoyed the malice he displayed toward Chris. He and Sheva are also my two favorite characters to play in Mercs...so yeah.sigpic
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Pretty much what Rosetta said. Felt the same way about Excella. Plus my vote goes to Wesker, despite the fact that he has all of these incredible abilities, he really is a wonderfully evil character that only the likes of Spencer could ever live up to, and since the two most evil characters (and most important villain) in the series have died off, I can't help but feel a bit hollow about it. Don't get me wrong, I think the story was fine (although Spencer was a bit wasted), it's just what other antagonists are there left now? Nicholai? HUNK? They're both AWOL since Umbrella's downfall and eventual destruction.
and i did find it weird that the Uroboros killed the entire BSAA Alpha team, yet Chris and Sheva can take care of it easily, yet Chris and Sheva are about to get there asses kicked my some Majini on motorbikes, yet the BSAA Delta team come and save the day and massacre all the majini easily. but isn't Alpha team is meant to be the more trained one? and Delta team the backup unit. it makes no sense.
Josh Stone is the new Barry Burton. Great character who will never be seen again...
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You know...I've understood for a long time that Jill was a popular character and everything, and that the affection some people have for her can be really (strong) at times, but I don't care. Even keeping all that in mind, the fact that Jill Valentine has five fucking votes as the BEST RE5 character blows my mind to high fucking hell. I don't understand how even the most HARDCORE Jill fans can stomach what she turned into in RE5. She was a piece of shit plot device and everything about her sucked. Her only redeeming quality in the game was a flashback, A FLASHBACK scene, where she sacrificed herself to save Chris. Everything else was an absolute joke:
Oh wait, she's not dead, she's brainwashed and working for Wesker? BRAINWASHED?
Oh, no, she's not brainwashed, she's being administered a drug that controls her. Really?
Oh wait, now she's good again, the device is destroyed. Everything's all well. "Hey Chris. Go get 'em, Tiger. LULZ."
I think everything about her sucked in RE5(and it pains me because she used to be one of my favorite characters, but as Irving would say, "but not anymawww"), but hey, those five votes aren't mine. Hooray for opinions. I could almost say the same thing about Wesker, but his bad-assery and DC Douglas saved him from being an absolute disaster, instead of just a weak representation of the character.
A lot of the characters sucked in RE5, in my opinion...namely Irving, Excella and Jill, but I voted anyway, and I myself voted for Sheva. Not just because I think she's adorable and because she's my little caramel princess, but she was a simple character who sucked the least. That, and she annoyed me less than any other character in the game(I played co-op, mind you). Even my favorite character of all-time, Chris Redfield, annoyed me at times throughout RE5. He was awesome, but I liked Sheva just a bit more. Her file gave her just as much backstory if not MORE backstory than any character in Resident Evil history. While she has the classic Resident Evil 'child prodigy' thing going against her, I can look past it because I'm so used to it by now. It's stupid, I know, but I feel her positives outweigh the negatives much more than the other characters.
TL;DR: I think the characters of RE5 all sucked a bunch in their own way, but I think Sheva sucked the least.
RE5 honorable mention: Chris Redfield and Josh Stone.
Maybe later I'll post about my least favorites, with reasons. If I feel like it.Last edited by Vector; 03-29-2009, 04:54 PM.
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Originally posted by Rosetta Mist View PostWhile I agree with almost everything you say...I wish people would get off the sunglasses thing. Irving had sunglasses, Chris had sunglasses, Ada wore sunglasses (at fucking nighttime I might add)... Just because someone is wearing sunglasses doesn't mean they are mimicing Wesker.
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Originally posted by ChrisRedfield29 View PostYou know...I've understood for a long time that Jill was a popular character and everything, and that the affection some people have for her can be really (strong) at times, but I don't care. Even keeping all that in mind, the fact that Jill Valentine has five fucking votes as the BEST RE5 character blows my mind to high fucking hell. I don't understand how even the most HARDCORE Jill fans can stomach what she turned into in RE5. She was a piece of shit plot device and everything about her sucked. Her only redeeming quality in the game was a flashback, A FLASHBACK scene, where she sacrificed herself to save Chris. Everything else was an absolute joke:
Oh wait, she's not dead, she's brainwashed and working for Wesker? BRAINWASHED?
Oh, no, she's not brainwashed, she's being administered a drug that controls her. Really?
Oh wait, now she's good again, the device is destroyed. Everything's all well. "Hey Chris. Go get 'em, Tiger. LULZ."
I think everything about her sucked in RE5(and it pains me because she used to be one of my favorite characters, but as Irving would say, "but not anymawww"), but hey, those five votes aren't mine. Hooray for opinions. I could almost say the same thing about Wesker, but his bad-assery and DC Douglas saved him from being an absolute disaster, instead of just a weak representation of the character.
A lot of the characters sucked in RE5, in my opinion...namely Irving, Excella and Jill, but I voted anyway, and I myself voted for Sheva. Not just because I think she's adorable and because she's my little caramel princess, but she was a simple character who sucked the least. That, and she annoyed me less than any other character in the game(I played co-op, mind you). Even my favorite character of all-time, Chris Redfield, annoyed me at times throughout RE5. He was awesome, but I liked Sheva just a bit more. Her file gave her just as much backstory if not MORE backstory than any character in Resident Evil history. While she has the classic Resident Evil 'child prodigy' thing going against her, I can look past it because I'm so used to it by now. It's stupid, I know, but I feel her positives outweigh the negatives much more than the other characters.
TL;DR: I think the characters of RE5 all sucked a bunch in their own way, but I think Sheva sucked the least.
RE5 honorable mention: Chris Redfield and Josh Stone.
Maybe later I'll post about my least favorites, with reasons. If I feel like it.
Sheva was far worse then Jill and most other characters in the game. We learned very little about her and she had pretty much unrealistic character development. Is anyone really supposed to believe she hated Wesker in the short amount of time she knew him? Perhaps the spirits of her fallen "brothahz" were influencing her hatred but I found her forced hatred of him to be laughable if anything.
I think though, most hardcore RE fans were disappointed in Jill solely on the fact of how much speculating and theorizing we all did. We had 6 months at guessing "Who is Birdwoman" and "Jills dead? wtf" discussion going on and obviously to some Jills appearance and fate was less spectacular then what people had hoped for.
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I voted for Wesker. He's always been one of my favorite characters, and I loved everything about him in RE5. I also really liked Sheva, so if I could pick a second favorite, she'd be it. God, I love her!
As for worst... I'm going to have to go with Jill. I still like her overall, but her storyline in RE5 was lame, although I will admit I love what it did to Chris. He definitely developed much more depth because of her "death," and I still haven't gotten over that scene in the plane, where Sheva lets go and Chris thinks about originally losing Jill. It breaks my heart. It's such a powerful scene, and the fact Sheva was sincerely going to sacrifice herself makes me love HER character even more, too.
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Originally posted by Darinl1979 View PostNot saying you are right or wrong, but out of curiousity what was so bad about Jill in RE5?
Originally posted by Darinl1979 View PostSheva was far worse then Jill and most other characters in the game.
Originally posted by Darinl1979 View PostWe learned very little about her and she had pretty much unrealistic character development.
Originally posted by Darinl1979 View PostIs anyone really supposed to believe she hated Wesker in the short amount of time she knew him? Perhaps the spirits of her fallen "brothahz" were influencing her hatred but I found her forced hatred of him to be laughable if anything.
Originally posted by Darinl1979 View PostI think though, most hardcore RE fans were disappointed in Jill solely on the fact of how much speculating and theorizing we all did. We had 6 months at guessing "Who is Birdwoman" and "Jills dead? wtf" discussion going on and obviously to some Jills appearance and fate was less spectacular then what people had hoped for.
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