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  • #31
    N'Gage Croal.

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    • #32
      Yous Guys! only 1 other vote for Irving? come on. He put on da firewurks fo yous and dis is how yous repays him (has anyone else noticed that when Irving transforms, it's a direct cross between the lake boss from RE4 and transformed Salazar?)

      I agree with Mr. Spencer about N'gai, i think the guy is incredibly smart but i don't think he know's what the hell he's talking about half the bloody time. I was listening to 1up Yours/listenUp/4guys1Up last week and the guy said that the creators of Peggle would soon be up in the ranks of Valve and Blizzard. Sit down Mr Croal, it's my turn to cry.

      P.s Bloody buggery doo da

      /endrant
      Last edited by Itchy...Munch!; 03-30-2009, 02:35 AM.

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      • #33
        I didn't really care for Jill's presence in the game. It's not her story, it's Chris'. She was used as a plot device to give Chris a reason for continuing a mission he would have otherwise dropped everything and ditched at a moment's notice. Her presence in general is done to develop Chris' character.

        Her role was fitting and worked well for what it was. She received better character development than she would have had she been a central character. It's much like the situation in MGS2, where Snake received better character development as a result of not being a central character.

        Jill was never the main character of the series. She was always second to none other than Chris. If you expected anything more from her in RE5, you were hoping for far too much. And to be honest, I like her a lot more after RE5 now and I'm glad Capcom took a risk and slightly tweaked her general appearance.

        Also BSAA Jill is awesome/best iteration of Jill ever. Sort of an awesome mixture of her S.T.A.R.S. outfit and her outfit in Umbrella's End. She's my favourite character in Mercenaries and she looks fucking awesome with long hair, far better than her other appearances (without her beret at least).
        Last edited by News Bot; 03-30-2009, 03:00 AM.
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        • #34
          I think I would have liked Excella if she'd shown less of her boobs and not been so naive as to think she could get with Wesker. Though I'm not happy that according to her file, Wesker apparently 'exploited' her interest in him. I know, it’s the kind of thing he’d do and all, it’s just destroying the world is one thing, but messing with chicks? I'm going to take the feminist approach and shake my fist at him. Naughty Wesker.

          I didn't really get annoyed by the characters, but I found Josh to be a bit... Odd. Just because of that one part where he sounds all suspicious for no reason at all, and I got thinking 'uh-oh, he's going to betray our collective ass' but then he didn't and it was all good. On Capcom’s part, I think that was silly. Don’t go giving me false ideas, please.

          All and all, Wesker has consistently been my favourite character in the series, at least out of the bad guys. Cliché villain for the win and all that rot. ^.~

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Daargoth View Post
            Wesker gets my vote, we will rule the world together!!!
            Amen. Bow down to your new god. Wait, wtf! He's dead.

            I need someone to continue his legacy; in the games of course, I already preach the word of the great Albert Wesker.

            Seriously, I loved the whole madness transition he had in RE5. From a cold-hearted manipulator to uncontrollable monster, he was great.

            I also love Irving; he was more like-able than most of the RE4 baddies (yes, I'm talking of you Salazar!!!! Rot in hell!).

            Sheva was a nice introduction and localization for the game. After all I've grown fond of her; nice backstory, not as "clean" as other good RE guy.

            Chris was as always goody-two-shoes; Jill's makeover was a breath of fresh air for the character, but her "Badass" change was too short for my taste. However I think that this should have major repercutions for her if RE6 is not a reboot.
            Last edited by Beanovsky Durst; 03-30-2009, 04:59 AM.

            "I miss the days when we just cared how cool an enemy was rather than critiquing and analyzing everything to death." - Shield Key

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            • #36
              Easy. Wesker. He's always been one of my favorite game characters of all time, and that still has not changed at all. He is a fabulous antagonist, and even though he went the way that I wished he wouldn't when it came to it, it was done in a way that I actually approved of, overall. Not to mention sob sob I always love characters who are part of genetic or experiments in general - and I've loved Wesker since before the big 5 revelations, and then just went "OH GOD" when it was revealed. XD Way to throw him into the same pattern I always love character for. I can meta so much about Wesker.

              As for disliked ... eeeh I dunno. I don't really DISLIKE anything. I wish they did more with Jill or at least gave her a bad ending. Or just something that wasn't as predictable as what you expected when you found out she was alive. Overall though Excella was not really a huge thing for me. I don't get why people complain so much about what she got in the game. From the trailers alone I was able to accurately guess where she'd end up and how.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ChrisRedfield29 View Post
                Did you even read my post? She was a fucking marketing tool and a plot device...that's it.
                Yes, but she was one extremely big plot device. Everything post-chapter 2-3 is Chris and Sheva deliberately disobeying orders to look for Jill as well as catch Irving. Beyond that, they know nothing. In this case, i think characters are always more memorable than plot twists. You can have the greatest plot in the world, but if the characters exist as nothing but value changers in the story, then there's going to be no emotional investment for the player. Merely the story exists as an exercise in design.

                Since Chris and Jill are fan favourites that a lot of RE fans have been wanting to see together in a game for god knows how long then it only seemed appropriate. It's going to hit home for some people more than it is others, i suppose.

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                • #38
                  News Bot: I absolutely agree with you
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                  • #39
                    I don't get the big complaint about Jill. Did you bitch and moan that Barry was used as a plot device in RE3 aswell? How are cameos of the series main characters a negative in your mind? Would you rather they didn't appear at all? What's your big issue? My favourite parts of the RE5 story revolved around her. Her and Chris's interactions were pretty much the only real drama of the game. Was she used as a marketing device? Disregarding the fact that someone who doesn't look up RE5 forums on the internet wouldn't even know she was in the game, how is her being used as a marketing device a bad thing? People want to see her, so fuck Capcom for supplying her?

                    People knew RE5 was about Chris, Sheva and Wesker from the start. The RE series has always been about focusing on as few characters as possible per game, so if anyone expected Jill to play a bigger part than she did, and she played a pretty big part for being a "plot device", then you can blame your dissapointment on whatever fantasy your own mind concocted of what RE5 was supposed to be.

                    And I don't really get how being a plot device is a negative either. They throw in a classic character, but god forbid they make them relative to the plot.

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                    • #40
                      Just throw them in as an easter egg zombie under a bridge and everyone will be happy.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Sina View Post
                        I don't get the big complaint about Jill. Did you bitch and moan that Barry was used as a plot device in RE3 aswell?
                        Barry was in RE3 in one of a number of alternate endings...and his appearance didn't ruin his character like Jill in RE5.

                        Originally posted by Sina View Post
                        How are cameos of the series main characters a negative in your mind? Would you rather they didn't appear at all?
                        Looking back on it...yeah. Looking back on what she became, I wish Jill wasn't in RE5 at all.

                        Originally posted by Sina View Post
                        What's your big issue?
                        I can't be any clearer than I already have been.

                        Originally posted by Sina View Post
                        Was she used as a marketing device?
                        Yes, she was. Anyone who saw that trailer with her headstone popping up at the end of it had their interest piqued. It had a direct effect on people, especially some people on this website. It got the Jill fans(Los Jilluminados, if you will) interested in RE5 if they weren't already. There's no denying that. Many people said "OMG I'm not buying RE5" because it was too much like RE4 or not enough like the classic games or whatever, but hey, throw Jill Valentine in the mix, and bam...you got a selling point.

                        Originally posted by Sina View Post
                        Disregarding the fact that someone who doesn't look up RE5 forums on the internet wouldn't even know she was in the game, how is her being used as a marketing device a bad thing?
                        Because she was marketed to be in the game, and she was...for ~10 minutes. I'm all for making money and selling games and advertising and whatnot, because I know video games are a business...but she was a huge selling point on this game. I remember playing through the game being like "Wow, I'm in Chapter 5, where the hell is the storyline?" 5-3 she appears, and she's gone, save for two short cutscenes. It was lame.

                        Originally posted by Sina View Post
                        People knew RE5 was about Chris, Sheva and Wesker from the start. The RE series has always been about focusing on as few characters as possible per game, so if anyone expected Jill to play a bigger part than she did, and she played a pretty big part for being a "plot device", then you can blame your dissapointment on whatever fantasy your own mind concocted of what RE5 was supposed to be.
                        I wouldn't say I'm disappointed, I just thought the way they used her was extremely stupid. I thought the whole brainwashed scheme was stupid, P30 was ridiculous, and the whole thing just screamed shitty low-budget movie plot to me. For the most part, I was very pleased with RE5, but I can honestly say that my biggest gripe with the game was the handling of the characters -- mainly Jill and Wesker. I thought ALL of the characters could have been and done more, and they all were either extremely misused or underused.

                        Originally posted by Sina View Post
                        And I don't really get how being a plot device is a negative either. They throw in a classic character, but god forbid they make them relative to the plot.
                        Bringing any character back after they've 'died' in a flashback, just to have them alive and 'brainwashed' fighting against you? I'm sorry I'm not sorry, but that just reeks stupidity and bullshit to me. It was a crock of shit and I thought it was a terrible part of the game's story. I honestly would've rather had her die in that flashback than survive. It would've added even more animosity between Chris and Wesker, if that's at all possible.
                        Last edited by Vector; 03-30-2009, 04:14 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Hilarious. Who is your "favorite RE5 character" and Jill is in second place. The poll is not "favorite RE character" but RE5 character. Jill was in RE5 for about 10 minutes max. Sure she was a key piece to move the plot, but overall her character had no real developments.

                          Amazing, but not surprising, that she has the second highest tally of votes.

                          Jesus Christ...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Sina View Post

                            so if anyone expected Jill to play a bigger part than she did, and she played a pretty big part for being a "plot device", then you can blame your dissapointment on whatever fantasy your own mind concocted of what RE5 was supposed to be.

                            And I don't really get how being a plot device is a negative either. They throw in a classic character, but god forbid they make them relative to the plot.
                            Exactly. Since October people speculated on how Jill would be in the game or what the appearance of her headstone meant. They obviously built up their own expectations on how she would be in the game. "omg shes a plot device now, it might be well written and interesting but I am going to still stand by that the boring token black forced partner is a way better developed character". I guarentee you though that if you would of thrown in Jill wearing her RE3 costume and spouting worse one liners then Leon ("You want STARS, I'll kill you STARS") then all the people complaining would be too busy jerking it to her pixel hotness to complain about anything.

                            Originally posted by Jill's Boob View Post
                            Hilarious. Who is your "favorite RE5 character" and Jill is in second place. The poll is not "favorite RE character" but RE5 character. Jill was in RE5 for about 10 minutes max. Sure she was a key piece to move the plot, but overall her character had no real developments.

                            Amazing, but not surprising, that she has the second highest tally of votes.

                            Jesus Christ...
                            Yeah well like it or not, even if the character didnt have the best development in RE5, if they were favored from previous games people will select them. I am more surprised at Wesker, sure he had decent dialogue and a great voice actor but the character in general was terrible. So all of the sudden he now wants to use all the stuff hes gathered over the years to judge the human race that he suddenly now hates without explanation? But hey everyone is entitled to their opinion, the internet would be a boring place if we all didnt try to shove our opinions down everyone else's throats.
                            Last edited by Darinl1979; 03-30-2009, 12:07 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Well, I suppose if length of time featured is all that's important, we can only really choose between Chris and Sheva. Excella was there for ten odd minutes, including her boss fight. Wesker might get a whole twenty five minutes. Jill got around fifteen or so, including boss fights.

                              So, folks, Chris or Sheva it is. Don't vote for anyone else, as they're plot devices and not characters. Srsly.

                              Or you can just accept a character's a character and everyone's gonna have there own favorite.

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                              • #45
                                Yeah, my mistake. Guess I am just an arse. Except that missvalentine said this in the original post:

                                Originally posted by missvalentine View Post
                                most of us have finished RE5 now and formed opinions on it already so who does everyone think was the best characters in RE5? not including any previous appearances, just there RE5 appearance. who did you like and who did you hate?
                                Hence my questioning of why Jill is more popular than some of the other characters. I love Jill and all, but there is no substance to her character in RE5. Nostalgia can be the only reason she has so many votes.

                                Originally posted by Darinl1979 View Post
                                Exactly.I am more surprised at Wesker, sure he had decent dialogue and a great voice actor but the character in general was terrible. So all of the sudden he now wants to use all the stuff hes gathered over the years to judge the human race that he suddenly now hates without explanation?
                                What other suitable explanation do you want? Why else would an evil man be collecting various bioweapons? Surely not to open up a museum or theme park. From all his other appearances, I gathered that Wesker was indeed a violent, hateful man who was very self-centered. Wesker in RE5 seemed to be the same guy to me.
                                Last edited by Jill's Boob; 03-30-2009, 12:47 PM.

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