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Originally posted by missvalentine View Postresurecting Umbrella would have still been infinitelly more interesting than becoming a God. RE's story has alway been somewhat like a B grade film, resurecting Umbrella would have fit in with that and Wesker's character nicely.
You've lost any right you ever had to debate now.PROJECT Umbrella - The BIOHAZARD/RESIDENT EVIL Compendium
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Quick question News Bot
That " even kinds bow to gods Chrs' line, where was this said and when? I think i might have missed that line entirly, and teh way you spke of it, reveals alot about weskers character for me, it is fittign taht he knows he one day will die, he is no immortal
ya, so anyone remember when he says this? Is in it a certain fight, or a cutscene?
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Honestly, Wesker's original intentions in RE1 were just as "silly" or however you wish to put it, as to what we came to RE5. It's Resident Evil for feck's sake, and I thought it fit well with everything we had come to know off Wesker up until this point (his intentions in RE5 were actually pretty much what I thought they were going to be, anyway). As his power grew, so did his ego. His intentions were a heck of a lot better than a good 80% of the other main antagonists who all wanted nothing more than vengeance.
Allow me to go through them:
Alexia Ashford; did she even have one in the end up aside from revenge for her fallen brother? Nah, just revenge.
Same goes for Marcus in RE0. Revenge.
Oh, and what about Birkin in RE2? Revenge.
Lets never forget Morpheus and his "intentions". Yup, you guessed it; Revenge.
See a pattern developing here?Last edited by Henry Spencer; 04-10-2009, 07:13 PM.
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Originally posted by missvalentine View Postresurecting Umbrella would have still been infinitelly more interesting than becoming a God.
And I think you just missed the point in RE4, since Krauser pretty much even flat out said that resurrecting Umbrella was a means to an end, not the end. And it's vague, but Tricell taking over Umbrella's progenitor research in Africa could've been what he meant by "resurrection". More using another company to continue Umbrella's work rather than an "Umbrella is back in business!" news headline resurrection, which would've just been stupid.
And look, I don't see how anyone can be dissapointed with Wesker's goals. Anyone with any semblance of story comprehension would've known and expected that this was sort of where the series was heading after reading WR2. Spencer was planning to force evolution on the planet, and when Wesker figured this out, Wesker's mysterious exploits went into high gear. There was really no other direction Capcom could've gone when writing RE5 Wesker.
And you should be happy, since the only other alternative I can think of to justify the storyline would've been Wesker creating and controlling an enormous armada of BOW's he had collected over the years to take over the world by force, and that would've been a cheesy comic book "take over the world" type scenario, with no goal other than "ruling the world". But no, they actually put some thought into it and made it about enforcing natural selection on the human race, which as anyone with half a brain knows is a real life issue. Earth is becoming overpopulated because of advances in medical science and technology. Natural selection/survival of the fittest doesn't really apply on us like it did thousands of years ago. Wesker and Spencer planning to put an end to that is a very interesting and reasonable objective, if you're insane enough. With RE's limited storytelling overall I think this scenario was one of the series high points. Not only was it an interesting idea, but it also ties together and explains the entire series. It just annoys me when someone shits all over it saying simply resurrecting Umbrella would've been "infinately" better storytelling.
Originally posted by Wanderer View Post?
Originally posted by Henry Spencer View PostAllow me to go through them:
Alexia Ashford; did she even have one in the end up aside from revenge for her fallen brother? Nah, just revenge.
Same goes for Marcus in RE0. Revenge.
Oh, and what about Birkin in RE2? Revenge.
Lets never forget Morpheus and his "intentions". Yup, you guessed it; Revenge.
See a pattern developing here?
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Originally posted by News Bot View PostOk so now you're just twisting logic to fit your arguement by trying to say sillyness is a good thing.
You've lost any right you ever had to debate now.
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Originally posted by TyrackT71 View PostJill is totally the best character in re5, just to bad she only has a few minutes of spotlight
Because, even though I like Jill...she's nothing more than a speed bump in RE5. Hardly worthy of being dubbed "totally the best character" in the entire game.
Originally posted by missvalentine View Posthow am i twisting logic? RE's storys were always like a B grade film, in RE5 they tried to make it an 'Epic' adventure type thing, which didn't fit in the RE universe at all. it was out of place. if they couldn't think of anything other that what he was in RE5, then they should never have brought him back in CVX. i only liked Wesker pre CVX, after CVX he started getting quite boring and annoying.
And how did Wesker start to become "boring" and "annoying" after CVX? He didn't even get any real screentime until REUC. After CVX he appeared in RE0 and RE4, for about 3 minutes total. His next appearance was RE5. Your opinion of Captain Albert Wesker, based on the events of RE1 (where he utters about 10 sentences), is questionable. While Wesker was the only character to truly have any sort of "development" in RE1, he didn't start to be fleshed out until later appearances.
Perhaps that is why someone is accusing you of "twisting logic."
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Originally posted by Jill's Boob View PostI think in your mind, any RE game that doesn't take place in Racoon City in July or September 1998 is "out of place."
And how did Wesker start to become "boring" and "annoying" after CVX? He didn't even get any real screentime until REUC. After CVX he appeared in RE0 and RE4, for about 3 minutes total. His next appearance was RE5. Your opinion of Captain Albert Wesker, based on the events of RE1 (where he utters about 10 sentences), is questionable. While Wesker was the only character to truly have any sort of "development" in RE1, he didn't start to be fleshed out until later appearances.
Perhaps that is why someone is accusing you of "twisting logic."
also with your reasoning that Jill cannot be the best RE5 character because of lack of screen time. just take a look at all the Boba Fett fanboys who think he is the most badass coolest thing to ever exist in history, and what he got like 10 minutes screen time out of Star Wars 2, 4, 5 and 6 combined? and even less dialoge. plus most of his ten minutes he was standing in the background.
anyways, i think it would have been better if Wesker had not killed Spencer, what if Wesker had confronted Spencer and had underestimated him and then have Spencer beat Wesker to within and inch of his life. then Wesker would have to retreat into the shadows again, thus more of shady dark cool plotting Wesker that we all know and love. not this crappy "im a god" Wesker. and they ruined Spencer too since he also wanted to be a god, all these years and he dies in a flash back as a plot device so Wesker can be a god. such a waste of good plot possibility's.
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Originally posted by missvalentine View Post
also with your reasoning that Jill cannot be the best RE5 character because of lack of screen time. just take a look at all the Boba Fett fanboys who think he is the most badass coolest thing to ever exist in history, and what he got like 10 minutes screen time out of Star Wars 2, 4, 5 and 6 combined? and even less dialoge. plus most of his ten minutes he was standing in the background.sigpic
Are you tired, Rebecca?
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Originally posted by missvalentine View Postanyways, i think it would have been better if Wesker had not killed Spencer, what if Wesker had confronted Spencer and had underestimated him and then have Spencer beat Wesker to within and inch of his life.
Wesker: Superhuman strength and speed
Wut?Last edited by Vector; 04-15-2009, 01:01 AM.
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