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  • The Next Antagonist?

    Since Spencer, Wesker, Excella, most likely Tricell and effectively Umbrella are all now gone, what other antagonists are there left for us to face next? As I said in another thread, both Nicholai and HUNK have gone AWOL since Umbrella's destruction.

    Perhaps they will be rogue members of the Umbrella Corporation, attempting to make a quick buck in the bioterrorist market?
    If you must, take your pick:
    This is a listing of prime universe Umbrella Corporation employees. For listing of members in the Umbrella Security Service and Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service, see their respective pages. Spencer, Oswell E. ✝ - CEO of Umbrella Pharmaceuticals. Co-discoverer of Progenitor Virus Ashford, Edward ✝ - Co-founder of Umbrella Pharmaceuticals Marcus, James ✝ - Co-founder of Umbrella Pharmaceuticals; co-discoverer of Progenitor Virus Vladimir, Sergei ✝ - Head of Russian Branch, head of Red Umb


    There is also the mysterious Christine Henri, who has now probably been forgotten about by Capcom..."Research and Development Head Manager of Umbrella's French Division". Pretty freaking important person; she was the one who sent HUNK and his team after William Birkin. HUNK then sent the G-Virus sample to her in Loire Village. She is the only known surviving CEO member of Umbrella we know anything about.

    Plus there's also "Jenny K." also unaccounted for.

    Or will they no longer be any more familiar antagonists, but rather will we perhaps be pitted against faceless corporations that were a part of the "unity of evil pharmaceuticals" that both Tricell and Umbrella were a part of (forgot the name of it).

    Or maybe it will be an entirely new enemy we have never seen before? I'm also interested to hear what people think Capcom will do next. What say you?
    Last edited by Henry Spencer; 03-30-2009, 03:23 PM.

  • #2
    I'd LOVE for Nicholai Ginovaef and his slick, silver, Russian crewcut to pop back up somewhere, but...lol. Nevermind.

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    • #3
      Well, I suspect it will suck because Capcom cannot think past the next game. The two most likely suspects are the Wesker Children and TriCell. TriCell has the added layer of safety Umbrella didn't, and can claim that it was Excella and the African division gone rogue rather than the whole company. A little bit of extra cash to the BSAA to pay for the damage Excella did to them and then some, and they'll likely be fine.

      Nicholai would make a good mid-level villain, similar to Wesker in the first game. Or, if the next game is a new Leon S. Kennedy saga (and I suspect it will be) then Ada might make a good villain. Maybe, if they do it right. She's one of the few people in a position to have access to a lot of Wesker's data.

      As for what I suspect will happen next...I'm betting, with Darkside Chronicles recapping Leon S. Kennedy and Claire, that they'll be the next hero set looking for Sherry. If Wesker did have her there's a good chance Tricell had her now. It would be easy to set up...Claire tries finding her, fails to find any reference to her at all, gets secret agent Ninja Leon S. Kennedy. Leon S. Kennedy, being a super goverment ninja, finds out that some corrupt ass sold her out to Wesker, who in turn stored her at a TriCell Africa facility. After the Kijuju Incident that facility was closed and most of it's staff an material moved to site C. Probably South America this time. So Leon S. Kennedy goes to investigate and Claire, although retired from the whole shooty thing, goes with because it's Sherry and besides, TriCell won't likely have strange monster guarding a facility...

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      • #4
        I don't know man, it seemed to me that Tricell would be in a lot of trouble now that the BSAA have found out about their corruption. Tricell may as well fall the same way that Umbrella did. Chris and Jill may now target Tricell as the next organisation to go after, since they were in cahoots with Umbrella and later helped Wesker.

        As you said, Ada and Nicholai would both be good, but would Capcom even make Ada "evil", really? They sort of should, but seem to enjoy putting her in the middle ground all of the time. As for Nicholai, he's definitely been forgotten about, the last we saw of him was in Outbreak and since RE5 was the last of Umbrella we'll see, the chance of seeing him again shall fade.

        Wesker children? They're all gone, and if any of them survived, I doubt they would make for great characters. Would most likely just be carbon copies of Wesker. Hardly original and I hope they don't appear in any future games.
        Last edited by Henry Spencer; 03-30-2009, 03:46 PM.

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        • #5
          I think the only real mystery left is Ada and who she is working for. I really think they should have ended everything with 5 because seriously, the suprise of BOWs on the blackmarket is over and what more can they really do? I know how about the Whitehouse is infected and you have to search threw the various rooms and traps that Lincoln set up to hide his gold. Also you get to kill a zombie Leon and Ashley.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Henry Spencer View Post
            I don't know man, it seemed to me that Tricell would be in a lot of trouble now that the BSAA have found out about their corruption. Tricell may as well fall the same way that Umbrella did. Chris and Jill may now target Tricell as the next organisation to go after, since they were in cahoots with Umbrella and later helped Wesker.
            That's the thing though...Chris and Jill might target them but they have no evidence that any other part of Tricell was involved. Tricell Africa and Excella is as high as it goes, as far as they know. There's no memo about how the executives want this done now. I think Tricell can survive through a combination of there current work with the BSAA and more money. Hell, Umbrella lasted four years and there was some hard evidence against the whole company.

            Originally posted by Henry Spencer View Post
            As you said, Ada and Nicholai would both be good, but would Capcom even make Ada "evil", really? They sort of should, but seem to enjoy putting her in the middle ground all of the time. As for Nicholai, he's definitely been forgotten about, the last we saw of him was in Outbreak and since RE5 was the last of Umbrella we'll see, the chance of seeing him again shall fade.
            True. I suspect we'll get a sneak peak of whoever the next big villain is in Darkside, and that might be a chance to bring back Nicholai.

            Originally posted by Henry Spencer View Post
            Wesker children? They're all gone, and if any of them survived, I doubt they would make for great characters. Just carbon copies of Wesker. Hardly original and I hope they don't appear in any future games.
            Well, Spencer mentions there all dead but one of the files say some survived. It's up in the air. But yeah, it would suck as it's essentially Wesker Mk II. And yet the plot wasn't really nessecery to RE5 so I suspect it's setting up for something later. But this is Capcom and planning is a dirty, dirty word to them. I might well be wrong.

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            • #7
              Protagonist or antagonist, I don't care...I just wanna see Ada Wong in RE6. She's really the only shred of storyline left. What is The Organization? What has she been doing lately? Wesker's dead, now what does she do? There's really so much to still discover when it comes to Ada.

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              • #8
                Don't worry, Tricell will find a way out of it. They can just say that everything that transpired in Africa was due to the actions of Excella Gionne, who I might add was "acting independently of the company's own agenda" and "does not represent us". Then throw some money around, pull a few strings and everything should be fine and dandy.

                They can also of course say that Wesker was manipulating Excella, and that Tricell as a company didn't really know what was going on with the African division. Just feign ignorance and make use of their friends within the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium, who I might add pretty much run the BSAA. This isn't like Raccoon City, you would expect massive political fallout from a nuclear strike on the American homeland, it even brought the president down. But something relatively isolated in a distant region of the world? Yeah, they could probably cover that up.

                As for Nicholai, he's an ideal candidate to join Tricell and offer his services as a mercenary to them. He wouldn't offer them any research data since Wesker most likely gave it all to them, but he's a skilled mercenary with knowledge about Umbrella's bioweapons. I don't see why they wouldn't want someone with such abilities. Afterall, Tricell took over what Umbrella had - if they took research, why not manpower?
                See you in hell.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Stars1356 View Post
                  I think the only real mystery left is Ada and who she is working for. I really think they should have ended everything with 5 because seriously, the suprise of BOWs on the blackmarket is over and what more can they really do? I know how about the Whitehouse is infected and you have to search threw the various rooms and traps that Lincoln set up to hide his gold. Also you get to kill a zombie Leon and Ashley.
                  I wouldn't say its over. Tricell has T-Virus, G-Virus, T-Veronica, Las Plagas and who knows what else. Files in game showed that they were experimenting with them so just because Excella is gone it doesnt mean the threat of BOWs being on the black market is over.

                  However I hope they don't continue anything involving Chris and Jill going after them. It would be a repeat of Umbrella all over again, trying to convince the BSAA that Tricell is dirty, not having evidence, etc. I too would like to see Ada's story finished but maybe they plan on finishing that up in DSC. Either way it really is a tough sell introducing a new antagonist this late in the series so it should be interesting to see how it goes.

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                  • #10
                    It seems that a few of you want to see Ada return...not me. Her transformation into a Cirque de soleil Matrix ninja 007 superspy doesn't fit the mold of the RE franchise, or at least what it was prior to RE4.

                    The original RE worked because it was a horror game first & foremost, with the weapons abilities at least attributed to most characters being law enforcement types. I guess I may not be in the majority here, but I definitely think RE5 should wrap up the old storylines and be done with them. The RE universe kept butchering itself as more and more convoluted storylines were ushered out with each subsequent game. And RE3 started the trend of heavy action that culminated in RE5 being almost a straight up action fest. Hence my hope for a top-to-bottom reimagining for the franchise. Not necessarily a reboot, but just a whole new setting with new heroes (fewer this time) and new frightening settings/creatures.

                    Despite my woe, I can see some new evil entity being placed into the foreground with the inevitably crappy Darkside Chronicles. And spare me the "you're an idiot - Darkside Chronicles will rule; it's gonna answer everything AND be fun" sentiments, as the same people who are praising it right now were the ones bashing the heck out of REUC. How quickly we forget...

                    I'm almost certain DSC is going to direct the franchise in another path stemming from the already established RE lore.
                    Last edited by Jill's Boob; 03-30-2009, 04:43 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jill's Boob View Post
                      And spare me the "you're an idiot - Darkside Chronicles will rule; it's gonna answer everything AND be fun" sentiments, as the same people who are praising it right now were the ones bashing the heck out of REUC. How quickly we forget...
                      A strange turnaround compared to RE5, where those who praised RE4, lambasted RE5 for the same reasons.
                      See you in hell.

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                      • #12
                        ^Very true. It's amazing isn't it?

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                        • #13
                          isn't Nicholai dead?
                          Spoiler:

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                          • #14
                            I hope they end the games storyline at 5. I think continuing any further would be beating a dead horse.

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                            • #15
                              I've got an idea for a setting, with Umbrella gone forever and Tricell struggling for survival after the Kijuju incident, it could be the case of a power struggle for the BOW market. In this scenario, we can set a goal to be obtained, let's make it Sherry Birkin's G-Virus antibodies. Why? Because G-Virus mutations can't be controlled, yet Sherry could via the vaccine. Sherry should be a young woman by the time RE6 or whatever they call it occurs... Let's send some mercenaries to get her; hence the comeback of Nicholai (if he's not dead), Hunk (could be as a good guy, IMO), Ada and... Krauser.
                              He would be a great revival, and continue his desire of a new Umbrella (which is NEVER gonna happen with Wesker dead).

                              Throw in zombies + las plagas (to keep everyone happy, imagine a Plaga-infected Crimson Head!!!) with RE4/5 mechanics (we all know that old fixed camera is never coming back)... Then you have a decent RE6... That's just a humble idea.

                              "I miss the days when we just cared how cool an enemy was rather than critiquing and analyzing everything to death." - Shield Key

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