The Next Antagonist?

[Mr. Spencer]

Logan did what was best for the United States.

[Vector]

Logan was behind the death of David Palmer. Anything he planned after that is nullified.

[Mr. Spencer]

Palmer was a black president. He had to go.

[Sephiroth]

I doint now why but I think Frederic Downing could become the next villian of the series for a while I doint now why I think he could be it's not like he died in the film most likely he got trowing in Jail but he could very easly breake out for someone could help him to escape I just get the feeling that Frederic Downing will come back.

[Darinl1979]

I doint now why but I think Frederic Downing could become the next villian of the series for a while I doint now why I think he could be it's not like he died in the film most likely he got trowing in Jail but he could very easly breake out for someone could help him to escape I just get the feeling that Frederic Downing will come back.

I hope not, he seemed like a really weak villian. Also I don't think we can discount the return of current characters but I don't see any of them as villians. Keep in mind, character direction never seems to go where we think it will, even with endings that seem like they are actual endings.

At the end of RE1, did you think Chris and Jill would go on to fight Umbrella? Did you think Albert Wesker was alive still? Assuming you played the game pre-CV.

At the end of RE2 did you think Leon and Sherry would be taken by the government and Leon would go on to become a government agents?

The ending of 3 is straight foward, but I guess you could say did you think Jill would 10 years later show up wearing a battle suit under the control of the presumed dead Wesker?

Changes happen offscreen that change our characters drastically, if the next RE game is going to be 4-8 years from now, who knows what they will do next.

[Enrico Marini]

And I really don't get the hate towards Leon... Yes he was a douchebag in RE4, but he made me laugh, really, all of the Salazar stuff was hillarious (not as original RE1, the Jill Sandwich is priceless).

Leon was annoying in 4 but they removed his annoyingness in Degeneration and created something far worse in the process.

I'm not too sure what to expect for the future. I never thought RE would go the route it did. Never expected Wesker to be ressurrected, and I still am sceptical that he is dead.

I just hope they have a good long think about it. Repeating the whole pharmeceutical company would just make me think, why the hell didn't they just keep Umbrella. Umbrella was behind everything.

I may just abandon the series until RE2 remake rears its ungly head, play it, then spend a month in the shower trying to remove the dirty feeling.

[REmaster]

I hope not, he seemed like a really weak villian. Also I don't think we can discount the return of current characters but I don't see any of them as villians. Keep in mind, character direction never seems to go where we think it will, even with endings that seem like they are actual endings.

At the end of RE1, did you think Chris and Jill would go on to fight Umbrella? Did you think Albert Wesker was alive still? Assuming you played the game pre-CV.

At the end of RE2 did you think Leon and Sherry would be taken by the government and Leon would go on to become a government agents?

The ending of 3 is straight foward, but I guess you could say did you think Jill would 10 years later show up wearing a battle suit under the control of the presumed dead Wesker?

Changes happen offscreen that change our characters drastically, if the next RE game is going to be 4-8 years from now, who knows what they will do next.

No, No and No. I thought wesker was dead as hell because, well, the man got impaled lol. I thought Leon was done after RE2 because he was just a rookie cop, and also back then I thought RE3 was going to be the series finale which had to of course, star Chris. If I only knew...

[Skunky]

I think some people are overrating the importance of Wesker... the prick is dead and the series will move on. Get over it.

RE2 & RE3 were awesome and defining games of the RE series. Neither had Wesker in them (because the prick was killed at the end of the first game).

I consider Dead Aim to be a great RE game and that didn't have any returning characters at all.

Both Outbreak games were very good but apart from some small cameos, again it was all new characters.

I'm more disappointed that Spencer was finally revealed, then killed off so quickly. I would have preferred that he remain the mystery, pulling the strings of power, hidden away...
But now that Umbrella is gone, I guess it's kinda fitting that he should be gone too.

But don't underestimate the creative genius of Capcom!
I'm sure they will come up with new Antagonists. And I'd like to see Nicholai return. Perhaps as the right hand man of a new evil boss.
Tricell are not as cool as Umbrella but they serve the same purpose within the RE games.

[Darinl1979]

I think some people are overrating the importance of Wesker... the prick is dead and the series will move on. Get over it.

RE2 & RE3 were awesome and defining games of the RE series. Neither had Wesker in them (because the prick was killed at the end of the first game).

I consider Dead Aim to be a great RE game and that didn't have any returning characters at all.

Both Outbreak games were very good but apart from some small cameos, again it was all new characters.

I'm more disappointed that Spencer was finally revealed, then killed off so quickly. I would have preferred that he remain the mystery, pulling the strings of power, hidden away...
But now that Umbrella is gone, I guess it's kinda fitting that he should be gone too.

But don't underestimate the creative genius of Capcom!
I'm sure they will come up with new Antagonists. And I'd like to see Nicholai return. Perhaps as the right hand man of a new evil boss.
Tricell are not as cool as Umbrella but they serve the same purpose within the RE games.

Yeah well ALL Resident Evil characters are overrated and glorified more then they should be by their fans. Its not a bad thing, its just the way it is. Its especially bad with Jill, Leon and Wesker...but even minor characters like Rebecca, Barry and Ada get over glorified more then they should.

On Wesker though, when you break it down he really didn't do all that much. Sure UC made it seem that he did alot behind the scenes, but that was really just some BS made up by Capcom to give him more fuel to go on in RE5. We basically just saw him get stabbed and then beat him the Redfields before RE5..thats all he was known for until a year or so ago. Yet people are saying he was the most important antagonist in RE? RE doesn't need a main antagonist to be good, the main antagonist should be the enviroment around that has been altered by viral outbreaks and what not.

[REmaster]

Yeah well ALL Resident Evil characters are overrated and glorified more then they should be by their fans. Its not a bad thing, its just the way it is. Its especially bad with Jill, Leon and Wesker...but even minor characters like Rebecca, Barry and Ada get over glorified more then they should.

On Wesker though, when you break it down he really didn't do all that much. Sure UC made it seem that he did alot behind the scenes, but that was really just some BS made up by Capcom to give him more fuel to go on in RE5. We basically just saw him get stabbed and then beat him the Redfields before RE5..thats all he was known for until a year or so ago. Yet people are saying he was the most important antagonist in RE? RE doesn't need a main antagonist to be good, the main antagonist should be the enviroment around that has been altered by viral outbreaks and what not.

You know what, BRAVO. I never had a problem with wesker being the boss, but I did like the previous RE games where the souroundings pretty much were the boss. I liked it better when you weren't worried about stopping some lunatic from destroying the world, you were just trying to get the hell out of this f#cked up mansion/town

[Henry Spencer]

On Wesker though, when you break it down he really didn't do all that much. Sure UC made it seem that he did alot behind the scenes, but that was really just some BS made up by Capcom to give him more fuel to go on in RE5. We basically just saw him get stabbed and then beat him the Redfields before RE5..thats all he was known for until a year or so ago. Yet people are saying he was the most important antagonist in RE? RE doesn't need a main antagonist to be good, the main antagonist should be the enviroment around that has been altered by viral outbreaks and what not.

Well, strictly speaking, the main antagonist of the series will always be the B.O.Ws. I'm just wondering who will be left now to actually release them into the atmosphere in the first place again, you know? That's the whole point of this topic.

[missvalentine]

On Wesker though, when you break it down he really didn't do all that much. Sure UC made it seem that he did alot behind the scenes, but that was really just some BS made up by Capcom to give him more fuel to go on in RE5. We basically just saw him get stabbed and then beat him the Redfields before RE5..thats all he was known for until a year or so ago. Yet people are saying he was the most important antagonist in RE? RE doesn't need a main antagonist to be good, the main antagonist should be the enviroment around that has been altered by viral outbreaks and what not.

you know your 100% right there. and i agree. RE does not really need an antagonist, it just needs zombies and monsters to be good, and a great environment. humans VS monsters, not humans VS humans.

i never got people who said that Chris is the main character because of his connection with Wesker as if the entire series was about that.

until RE5 i barely even took any notice of Chris and Weskers rivalry, and i think it's very overated really. i thought Raccoon City's demise was much more interesting.

but if we do get a new antagonist, i wouldn't mind Nicholai returning.

[LVL100 Merchant]

I would so dig Nicholai returning as a villain, but I agree with many others; RE should be about survival and escape for the protagonists, not saving the world or settling some rivalry. RE4 was particularly annoying in this regard since the story was so trashy, but RE5 delivered it much better since it was much more relevant and climactic; the more action-oriented style of the gameplay and cut-scenes seemed to suit the game more since it was about tracking down Wesker. However, I would like RE6 to devolve back into the aspect of survival.

[Darinl1979]

It would be nice to go back to what the games were, survival horror...lack of healing items...lack of ammunition, but I doubt it would perform well among todays generation of gamers.

From a RE fan perspective though it would work. The games went toward action, I figured RE4 was like a "test-game". Testing to see how their jump into action would work. It worked well so they just improved on the game and tacked on a story and characters that people cared about instead of Leon. It kind of had to happen if they wanted to conclude Chris/Jill/Wesker's story. If you had thrown those characters into a survival type game similiar to previous games it just wouldn't of worked. I think of 5 as the conclusion of their story in which not only have they fought all this time, they are taking the fight to those responsible instead of falling prey to being in some secluded mansion or escaping a city.

I expect new characters in the next game, if they use anyone else from previous games then it will end up just being awkward as no one is going to find it plausible that the same characters can keep getting caught in a fight for your life scenario. So hopefully previous characters have a presence (files, mentions, etc.) but a new breed of characters can bring the survival horror aspect back to the series. I replayed REmake yesterday and even after all this time I still love it.