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Originally posted by Hellwarrior View PostAnd chris dating an asian woman are clear indications that he is not interested in any romantic relationship with any of his partners , be it Jill , sheva or rebecca.
And the Jill/Chris relationship is intentionally different from the others wether you can grasp that or not. Let's look it over.
Jill/Barry = Big brother relationship.
Chris/Rebecca = Little sister relationship.
Claire/Leon = Nothing. Acquaintances.
Leon/Ada = Fling Leon obsesses over.
Jill/Carlos = Barely like eachother, but Carlos gets desperate.
Claire/Steve = Unrequited love Claire wouldn't look Steve's general direction if they weren't stuck together.
Leon/Ashley = Ashley is an annoying, unattractive brat who Leon is payed to spend time with, whos not so subtle proposition is swiftly turned down.
Leon/Hunnigan = Harmless flirting since Leon is such a fucking ladies man appearently.
Leon/Angela = Flirt leading nowhere since the movie needed a romance subplot.
Chris/Sheva = Professional partners without a hint of romantic attraction.
Sheva/Josh = Big brother relationship.
Wesker/Excella = Maneater trying to seduce Asexual Wesker.
As for Chris/Jill, it's not exactly subtle that Capcom went out of their way to make their relationship ambiguous. And now that Jun Takeuchi basically flat out said it, there is no argument.
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Originally posted by Mr. Spencer View PostExcella reminds me of Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct.
Excella wasn't planning to kill Wesker and she didn't kill all his friends/fuck with his mind. She has the seduction part down, but Excella isn't as good with mindgames as Catherine Tramell.
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Excella had a crush on him and she just wanted to get him in bed and after a while, her ambitions changed to become "Queen" of this new world. Spoiler:
She reminds me more of Anne Boleyn in The Tudors. Excella is intelligent and seductive, Catherine Tramell is intelligent, seductive, cunning, witty, psychotic and evil. Sharon Stone's even said in an interview that eventually she believed Catherine killed Michael Douglas' character.It's funny how she didn't realize when she said "Only the chosen are fit for the coming new world" when the guy rejected Uroboros, but she didn't realize the only people who WERE fit for it were those who Uroboros accepted.
Interrogation scene ftw:
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Upper hand indeed. And Carlos becomes such a staple in Jill's life, so much so that she follows him around the world, documenting his every action in her diary. And let's not forget that Carlos is featured in more games where he too is searching for Jill, despite thinking she's dead. Definitely has a one up on Chris. No doubt.
If he had anything with Jill he would've taken Jill along wherever he went to, and not leave her and his sister to die in racoon city.
Sure, Jill might be searching for Chris still but that's because he is one the only active member of Stars and want to bring Umbrella down,what's with helping an old teamate.
Barry came out of his way just to rescue Jill, now does he love Jill all of sudden just because he was 'searching' for Jill? No, they're team mates, that's why
Their campaign against Umbrella had to take priority before anything else. Chris went to Paris to scout things out, and Jill was to keep an eye on Raccoon until she got the word from Chris (and obviousely that got kind of mussed up with the viral outbreak and all).
And that's not to say you don't have a good point about them being touchey feely. But even I have friends who I give constant hugs and cuddles to, but I don't love them persay. That's not to say they don't love eachother on some sort of level. I mean, on some level I love my close friends as much as I would someone I was going to marry. In my opinion they are just really close friends. Besides which, it's a proven fact that once you go through a tramatic experiance you tend to feel like you have to be close to someone
And you're simply ignoring the settings of the JillxCarlos art.
That's a cruise -
1. WHY are they on a cruise??
Orange Sunset -
1. TYPICAL for a romantic atmosphere.
I know that still isn't enough yet. But add to the fact Jill will have to date that picture
Just because 2 people of the opposite gender are partners or team mates working on the same project , doesnt mean they have to sleep with each other.
Then what if they just a time-out, a freakin' break after the hell they went through together, and a vacation on a liner?
look at the dress she's wearing! You know when a lady wears that its never business right? If she wearing what she wore in the Chris Epilogue..then it would've made sense.
I can see Jill taking a break or a date after she gets back and sorts things out honestly. Its obvious what intentions Capcom had in mind when they created that art.
Haha...sadly, I don't think "hellwarrior" will know that you all are actually mocking him/her.
Anyway, "hellwarrior," so...who is Jill with, exactly? First you are adamant that she has a boyfriend in RC (supposedly pictured on her desk), and now it is Carlos that is her soulmate, even though he slipped into the "unimportant RE character" void along with Billy, Ashley, etc. Next you're going to tell us all that Wesker & Jill are actually lovers? Maybe even Barry & Jill? Why not Jill & Brad Vickers?
No she aint with barry as he is married with kids ,brad is dead there was nothing in that brief moment between hem and wesker just mindcontrolled her with that thing on her chest.
So the competition is between carlos ,chris ( which i seriously doubt with him already having an asian GF already), and the guy on jill's desk who was the only one referred to as her Boyfriend.
sp there is a Triple Threat match with Jill Valentine hanging on top. . Who will survive? Will there be a new party? Who will ultimately receive the rose? Watch the next episode of,
Resident Bachelorette
Ace logic there, champ. Ignoring for a moment the fact that the virals aren't canon, are you actually saying that if someone is dating a person of a separate race, that must mean they have a fetish for that race and are physically unable to be attracted or have romantic feelings for any other race? Wow.
It's funny that in your posts you scoff at ChrisxJill pairings as "fan-concocted fantasies," yet here you are suggesting multiple JillxAnyone-besides-Chris pairings. But of course your suggestions are not "fan-made speculation" AT ALL
By "fan-concocted fantasies," i meant the fantasies of these perverts who jump to conclusion at the slightest sign of any feelings and post pictures like these
BTW, I haven't played RE3 in awhile, but doesn't Jill get irritated by Carlos's immature pick-up line, AND smack him around when he's losing it? But yeah, must be love
And CR29 was totally right on when he said this thread is getting stale...
. Let's look it over.
Jill/Barry = Big brother relationship.
Chris/Rebecca = Little sister relationship.
Claire/Leon = Nothing. Acquaintances.
Leon/Ada = Fling Leon obsesses over.
Jill/Carlos = Barely like eachother, but Carlos gets desperate.
Claire/Steve = Unrequited love Claire wouldn't look Steve's general direction if they weren't stuck together.
Leon/Ashley = Ashley is an annoying, unattractive brat who Leon is payed to spend time with, whos not so subtle proposition is swiftly turned down.
Leon/Hunnigan = Harmless flirting since Leon is such a fucking ladies man appearently.
Leon/Angela = Flirt leading nowhere since the movie needed a romance subplot.
Chris/Sheva = Professional partners without a hint of romantic attraction.
Sheva/Josh = Big brother relationship.
Wesker/Excella = Maneater trying to seduce Asexual Wesker.
Agree
Vogue_Dirge, you asked me about the Takeuchi comment about ChrisxJill. It was from the Capcom Unity interview awhile back. Blaze referenced it on page 2 of this thread. Here is the post again: http://www.the-horror.com/forums/sho...7&postcount=23
Maybe "hellwarrior" can read that and come up with some sort of inane rebuttal toward the producer of RE5 who also happened to develop the characters back in 1996 for RE1As for Chris/Jill, it's not exactly subtle that Capcom went out of their way to make their relationship ambiguous. And now that Jun Takeuchi basically flat out said it, there is no argument.
People tend to jump to conclusion and perceive information from Juan differently and its happened before
For instance ,Juan said someone who was never rescued , will be rescued in RE5 and almost everyone started to presumed the tube girl was sherry.
After beating RE1 and seeing chris and jill together , no one never expected Jill to already have a picture of another boyfriend on her desk and then carlos coming into the equation to further complicate things
I guess we'll never know if chris and Jill will be partners for life in a future RE episode , since chris cramer already said its a good bye to all the old characters .**** crapcom.Last edited by Hellwarrior; 04-17-2009, 03:39 PM.
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Originally posted by Hellwarrior View PostAnd you're simply ignoring the settings of the JillxCarlos art.
That's a cruise -
1. WHY are they on a cruise??
Orange Sunset -
1. TYPICAL for a romantic atmosphere.
I know that still isn't enough yet. But add to the fact Jill will have to date that picture .
Back to Carlos and Jill. She's just been attacked by Nemesis, and he knows that without her he's all alone. Wouldn't you be trying to save someone if you thought you could? Carlos acted out of respect and concern for Jill. There wasn't anything romantic about it. It's called survival.
You can't base anything on art. First of all: Look at the screens/epilogues that had been done for RE2. One screen shows Sherry and Claire together on a motorcycle, the other shows Claire leaving Leon and Sherry behind. Then let's look at the rating screens in CV. Claire is sporting an Umbrella bathing suit while relaxing with an Umbrella umbrella.
I also find it interesting that your argeement with Sina's post goes against your theories. Barely knew each other and Carlos gets desperate. Because hitting on chicks in a zombie infested town is a key to securing a great romance. Unless you think Jill likes Carlos because she is equally as desperate?sigpic
Are you tired, Rebecca?
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Originally posted by ChrisRedfield29 View PostIf we're gonna start taking game-clear screens into account, let's try this:
Ah, that explains it all. The Mansion Incident was really just a low-budget horror film shoot. Now it all makes sense.
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Originally posted by Alexia_Ashford View PostWhat are you talking about? He's wearing her beret and there's even a kiss on the photo. It's true love.
Oh wait, that's another person that likes to spin facts from simple images. But I can't recall the name...
"Hellwarrior:"
Wow. Just wow. Not only are you neglecting the fact that multiple people in this thread are telling you that you are wrong (and supporting it with logic & evidence), but now you are going to tell me that Jun (or "JUAN," as you like to call him) Takeuchi doesn't know what he is talking about.
He only designed the characters back in 1996 for RE1, worked on RE2, and was the producer for RE5. But he doesn't know anything.
Everything to do with Jill in the RE-verse pretty much leads back to Chris. The one time she appeared without Chris, all media linked her back to him. In RE3, her diary talked about Chris in nearly every sentence. Once RE3 was finished, her epilogue spoke of Chris. In the manual for REUC, the synopsis for the RE3 scenario states that "Jill saw Chris off to Europe, before conducting her own investigation into a vital Umbrella facility in Racoon City." That means she was with him up to the minute of his departure. She seems to fawn over him...
The only time Jill was away from Chris seems like the night she spent running from Nemesis. Otherwise, she was 100% by Chris's side.
Carlos...poor Carlos. The chump didn't even get an epilogue file in the VERY game he starred in. Yet Capcom had such grand plans for him to make him into Jill's soulmate.
If they were such devoted lovers, why was Carlos not looking for Jill in the events of RE5? Yet her "platonic" friend, searched for her for 2 years, including making a solemn promise to her tombstone (RE5 file).
I mean, Carlos administered a vaccine to Jill, and said the words "Don't die on me." You say that such words indicate romance, yet I'm pretty sure many RE characters have uttered the words "don't die on me" to another character. Did both Chris & Jill indicate to Richard Aiken that they loved him by basically telling him not to die in RE1? You also said that Jill breaking down when she thought Carlos was dead was yet another indication of her love for Carlos. I guess when Jill breaks down over the death of Forest Speyer in RE1, it was also because she loved him?
Jill sacrificed her LIFE (well, she thought she was as good as dead) for Chris in 2006. But I guess you'll come up with some inane rebuttal to that action as well.
Carlos was such an amazing soulmate for Jill that she skipped town immediately following September 1998 to reunite with Chris, who she spent the next 8 years with.
As for your insistence that the one picture of Carlos & Jill together on a boat (Jill without her nautical themed Pashmina afghan) indicates that they are in love and an honest-to-God couple, I say this:
Does that image look romantic to you? The sun is setting, sure. Wow. The sun does that once a day. But there it means romance. Jill and Carlos are standing side by side. That means romance too, right?
They could be on a ferry, traveling from one place to another. I mean, who knows where Barry dropped them off. And as Rosetta said, the ending screens usually have no real canonical meaning whatsoever.
Also, Jill looks despondent. She doesn't look happy, much less being romanced. Her own arms are wrapped around her body, in what is usually a defensive position. Nothing in that image looks "romantic."
On the other hand:
- Chris and Jill either hug or hold hands when you rescue the other from the jail cell in RE1.
- Chris and Jill snuggle up and hold hands in the ending to RE1 (1st edition).
- Jill falls asleep sitting right next to Chris (much closer than "friends" should) in the end to RE1 and REmake and REUC
- If just Jill & Barry escape in RE1 or REmake, Barry is looking at a picture of his family (significant others) and notices that Jill is sad, and realizes that she is thinking of Chris. She retorts that "it's okay...he's alive, I just know." Why would Barry think that he had made a faux pas, unless he IS aware that there might be more to JillxChris than just "friends?" Why is Jill thinking of Chris in that way? Why is there an allusion to Barry and his family in relation to the bond between Chris & Jill?
- In RE3, Jill's diary mentions Chris, Chris, Chris. In Jill's epilogue, guess who is mentioned again?
- In RE5, Chris (and not any other person, not even Jill's family) searches tirelessly for her. Going well beyond platonic friend, he keeps pressing for any lead to find Jill. The whole driving force for RE5 is Chris wants to find Jill.
So, please. We all wait eagerly for your next brilliant rebuttal to why ChrisxJill is just a "fan made" pairing by nonsensical "shippers."
The amazing Carlos, who is sure to be featured in every future RE game, also can't wait for you to hype him some more.Last edited by Jill's Boob; 04-17-2009, 08:02 PM.
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