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  • Tongue-in-cheek hints and suggestions are not evidence, you're again latching onto anything that even slightly looks like it proves your point. Romance isn't "banned", it's just not something they care about. They're not obligated to write romance, and it's not what the games are about.

    Something not put into the released game does not mean it's not canon. Some things are cut for convenience, but are then alluded to in later material because they're part of the established scenario. For example, there's a line in BIO3 about Murphy Seeker being infected by drinking water. This tied into the fact that Raccoon City's water supply was contaminated, which is another reason the virus spread so quickly. Just because that single line was removed in the end does not mean Raccoon City's water supply wasn't contaminated. The entire game(s) of Outbreak are a prime example of where this "rule" is nonsense. Outbreak is literally only half-released. Much of the story is unexplained or unknown simply because the 10 scenarios we got were written to tie-in to the missing 10. But what we do know of the missing 10 can be accepted as canon. And yet another exception that disproves the rule is the scenarios themselves. Only about 60% of what is written makes it into the game, but the scenarios are still canon. They've never contradicted a single thing in any written scenario in 16 years.
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    • Originally posted by Dracarys View Post

      Never put into the released game. Besides there is nothing in it to 'definitely prove' or even strongly infer nothing between them, sounds like typical teasing/joking couples do, Jill mentions she is getting old then teases Chris over a young girl he was getting friendly with. I'd find it hard to believe there is a couple anywhere that hasn't made those sorts of jokes, could be age, weight, looks, money, whatever.
      But that's it right there. You're just seeing what you want to see, rather than what is actually there. It also doesn't matter if its in the game or not, it shows the writer's intent for the characters, that's the point and the clear intent is that they have a professional working relationship only. Besides, even if Jill and Chis were an item I can't imagine Jill would be that casual about Chris getting friendly with a girl from the tech department and liking them so young. I'm obviously going by your fanon timeline here of LIN being set in 2005 and the same year as Revelations. Chris and Jill are together yet he is flirting with a young lady from the tech department. The rascal...
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      • William Birkin x G-virus: the ultimate couple.
        "It's sheer perfection. My precious G-virus, no one will ever take you away from me."

        And best of all, it's completely canon.
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        • Originally posted by TheBatMan View Post
          But that's it right there. You're just seeing what you want to see, rather than what is actually there. It also doesn't matter if its in the game or not, it shows the writer's intent for the characters, that's the point and the clear intent is that they have a professional working relationship only. Besides, even if Jill and Chis were an item I can't imagine Jill would be that casual about Chris getting friendly with a girl from the tech department and liking them so young. I'm obviously going by your fanon timeline here of LIN being set in 2005 and the same year as Revelations. Chris and Jill are together yet he is flirting with a young lady from the tech department. The rascal...
          Seeing what I want to see? and you're not, spinning everything to a definite no? I think LiN in 2005? What is this nonsense, you just spouting bollocks.

          Maybe it was dropped because they realised people like yourself could take it the wrong way. I'm sorry you must have boring relationships where you never joke with your partner and so cannot even grasp the possibility of what was said in that unused audio.

          Originally posted by News Bot View Post
          Something not put into the released game does not mean it's not canon.
          Yeah, it does if it is never mentioned anywhere, by anything, ever. What is left on the cutting room floor isn't still part of a movie.
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          • Dracarys talking about someone else spouting bollocks, hahahaha.

            1) The line wasn't dropped. It's still in the scenario. Unless it was written out of the scenario, it's still relevant. And it couldn't have been written out if it was voice recorded.
            2) The scenario is not the "cutting room floor" and games are not structured or made like movies. Just because something is left out of the final retail game does not mean it's not canon. Trevor's Letters are a prime example.

            The LIN dialogue is mentioned in the script, and that's all it needs. Dialogue can be rearranged or "dropped" before release, but whatever information the dialogue gives is always canon (barring mistranslations). It's also important to note that the writers do not have any control over what dialogue is "dropped" or not. This is done at the voice recording stage, where the writers are absent. So even if a piece is missing, it's still their intention. William Birkin being director of the Umbrella chemical plant in Raccoon City is also stated in "dropped" dialogue from BIO2. Just because it's not stated in the final release does not mean that he isn't, since it's defined in the game's scenario. The exact same case with the LIN dialogue.

            Maybe you should stop making up any excuse possible to give yourself credibility. You don't have any, and never have for that matter.

            Maybe it was dropped because they realised people like yourself could take it the wrong way.
            If you're going for most ironic post of the year, you've got it. All you do is take things the wrong way to suit your myopic little viewpoints on subjects you know next to nothing about. No amount of twisting can ever make you right regardless of how desperately you try. Do we need to compile a list of every time you've been wrong before you actually realize it yourself?
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            • Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
              Seeing what I want to see? and you're not, spinning everything to a definite no? I think LiN in 2005? What is this nonsense, you just spouting bollocks.
              It's not bollocks. It's from your very own interpretation. Remember the RE5 set in 2008-2009 thread? Remember now, you are never, ever wrong.

              Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
              2008. Use the age of the characters during RE5 and when they were born. Mathematically impossible to be 2009.
              So by your logic, Lost In Nightmares is indeed set in 2005, right? Character ages can't be a mistake after all.


              Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
              Maybe it was dropped because they realised people like yourself could take it the wrong way. I'm sorry you must have boring relationships where you never joke with your partner and so cannot even grasp the possibility of what was said in that unused audio.
              Really?
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              • Originally posted by TheBatMan View Post
                It's not bollocks. It's from your very own interpretation. Remember the RE5 set in 2008-2009 thread? Remember now, you are never, ever wrong.
                RE5 was originally set in 2008, they delayed the game, delayed the date the game takes place in. Is why the ages are all wrong. Is why they fucked up the ages in LiN also, count back 3 years from 2009 to 2006, take 3 years off Jills stated age, 33. Except they didn't realise the ages were never updated in the original release. There is loads of evidence in the released game it was originally 2008, as well as a lack of evidence to support it ever originally being set in 2009. Not to mention the 'in-game' current date and time being on-screen in intros to early builds.

                If you think RE5 was wrote and always intended to be 2009 you are just flat out wrong.

                As to NBs bullshit logic that something is canon if it was planned but never included in what released. I guess Elza Walker is a canon character, RE3.5 is part of the canon, there was a Tyrant in RE5, Barry was leading teams in Kijuju, JIll turned into a monster, G-zombies exist etc etc.

                Oh,and in Mass Effect 3, ignore that Starkid stuff, was actually Dark Energy why the Reapers were killing everyone, they just never included it in the released game.

                What released is canon, nothing else. The convo never happened, but even if it did, Jill could just be making a joke about her age and Chris being interested in what media tells us is more desirable. You both need get out more if you've never heard a couple do this or done it yourself.
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                • 1) BIO5 may have been originally set in 2008. Nobody ever contested that. However, aside from character ages, nothing in the game implies it is set in 2008, which is what you originally implied and which is what people actually contested. Your previous nonsense about files implying 2008 was proven wrong. For instance, the Plaga Type 3 field test is dated in the villager diary in April, although BIO5 is set in March. That's because the Type 3 field test took place in April 2007 or 2008. The results from it helped improve Type 3 to the variant you encounter later in the game, a fact which is even alluded to at the end of another file.

                  2) "Bullshit logic" is you all over. There's also a distinction between "final scenario" and "scrapped scenario." Dialogue that is in the final scenario but not included in the retail game is in a completely different league from scenarios that were outright abandoned. Voice recording is able to modify or drop things at their whim without the insight of the writer, so it can't be taken 100% at face-value if you're looking at the series from a story-based perspective. Only the written scenario can.

                  "What released is canon" is true, if you can only speak generally. BIO1 is a mixture of both scenarios where every version of the game has given different views to the same events, and no "true" version has ever been released. BIO2 is a mixture of all four scenarios but what you see isn't that combination, and no "true" version has ever been released. BIO3 has branching points left entirely to the player's discretion because they were planned to never be followed up on-- likewise with Gun Survivor... neither have ever had a "true" version released to clarify. Etc, etc.

                  "Get out more" is the best you can come up with? Come on, that's not even half as funny as some of the other stuff you've spouted.

                  Your entire argument crumbles under the fact that you were originally trying to argue that it was definitive yet are now stumbling around in a realm of possibility. Make your mind up. Also if the "dropped" dialogue also isn't relevant, why are you twisting it anyway to fit your opinion? The conversation probably didn't happen, but the information imparted in it (Chris and Jill aren't a couple circa 2006) is definitive. It's hilarious that you use a Mass Effect 3 theory as an example, yet theories are the foundation of your entire argument.

                  And this is all ignoring the fact that the developers have already said that Chris and Jill have no romantic link. It doesn't matter if they hint at it or not when they flat-out say they aren't. The hints are merely there to please shippers.

                  P.S. G-Zombies exist because we know that's what happens when a corpse is revived with the G-Virus. Similar principle with how the C-Virus also creates Zombies. They all share a genetic code with the t-virus, and under certain conditions, display similar characteristics. There's also a G-Dog, Giant Neptune, etc. All canon, just like the UBCS Charlie Team and Miguel, the second survivor of HUNK's U.S.S. Alpha Team. What you think has never mattered, because the majority of the time, you talk bollocks.
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                  • In my opinion you are all seeing what you want to see there is no
                    evidence that proves or disproves chris and jills relationship it is all
                    hints speculation and witty diolouge put there for you to interpret
                    your own way. You can see it any way you want the way i see it chris
                    and jill have feelings for each other but are not sure if they are
                    romantic or not.

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                    • Jun Takeuchi (BIO5 producer) said they probably have feelings for each other, but never show them.

                      Takeuchi: "For the Resident Evil series, it's kind of a rule for the scenario writers that we don't have these romantic relationships in the games. If Chris were real, and you asked him what the deal was with him and Jill, he would just say "Oh, well, she's my partner, you know?" but deep down inside you know they probably have some kind of feelings for each other. They just don't say it."
                      Hiroyuki Kobayashi (BIO4, BIO6 producer) said that they're just partners, no romantic link.

                      One statement is speculative and made in 2009 by someone no longer on the BIOHAZARD Team, the other is up-to-date and definitive. Dracarys is simply continuing her personal brand of fan-fiction, where the Progenitor virus turns humans into plants.
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                      • Originally posted by News Bot View Post
                        Dracarys is simply continuing her personal brand of fan-fiction, where the Progenitor virus turns humans into plants.
                        No, you're continuing your own brand of ass-clownary by jumping on people who have an opinion who differs to yours. Also fail to understand what an analogy is.
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                        • Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
                          No, you're continuing your own brand of ass-clownary by jumping on people who have an opinion who differs to yours. Also fail to understand what an analogy is.
                          Playing the victim doesn't detract from anything you've said in your multiple attempts to throw your weight around on stuff you don't have half a clue about. What I'm saying is fact, not opinion-- using some things known as sources and evidence to clarify things. Not your method of moulding shit into shapes and throwing it at the wall to see if it sticks, then ranting and raving about how undeniable the shit is whether it stuck or not.
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                            • Originally posted by News Bot View Post
                              What I'm saying is fact, not opinion
                              No, just your opinion it is a fact. Everytime you get proven wrong or even questioned you break out into insults, personal attacks and double standards with your 'facts' changing as they suit the argument at that moment.
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                              • Haha, constant insistence that a fact is actually an opinion isn't going to make it an opinion. Please find me an example of where you have proven me wrong on anything related to the story, or where facts have changed (all cases I can recall are from you twisting statements around). I can do it pretty easily for you:

                                1) Operation Raccoon City isn't canon.
                                2) BIO5 is not set in 2008 and nothing in the game itself aside from character ages implies that date.
                                3) The Progenitor Virus wasn't discovered in a plant at the time of REmake, your primary reason for defending the localization of the game that implied Lisa and Jessica Trevor were in-fact plants. Ironically, at that time, the virus was discovered in a fossilized human.
                                4) You denied TRICELL's involvement in Revelations.
                                5) The BSAA Remote Desktop is canon.
                                6) Localization is a constant and easily observable problem in the series. You bury your head in the sand and constantly deny or make up excuses for it.
                                7) Chris and Jill aren't a couple.
                                8) There are multiple t-Viruses in the series. You claim there is only one.
                                9) Pigment alterations and hair color changes are entirely possible. You claim they are impossible, then when proven wrong about this, backtrack and say that it's not true because it's not stated word-for-word in the game.
                                10) You believe that the "Anti-Umbrella Movement" known only in the S.D. Perry novels and the Resident Evil Wikia was canon but retconned, even though it never existed in the games in the first place.
                                11) You thought Gaiden was canon and tied into the story of BIO4's Castle version.

                                Probably plenty more in THIA's archived threads. It's hilarious that you speak of double standards and alternating facts when, yet again, that is you all over. Notice how nobody has ever agreed with you on any of the above? You're a joke. You don't know anything more than anyone else on the forum, but you constantly pretend that you do and when proven wrong, you keep going despite the futility. Anything that doesn't fit with your personal viewpoint is something you instantly twist and misconstrue in order to make it fit, a method that never works. You're never satisfied if it doesn't say what you want it to.

                                Keep the laughs coming though. Nobody values you or takes anything you say with any credibility, but you make a good clown for everyone else.
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